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Absolutely nothing helps. NOTHING. I have tried every possible thing you could expect normal user to try. This mainboard is crap. I got this to almost work with some (very expensive) Kingston memory sticks which were mentioned somewhere with this board, it only crashes few times a day now! Every component is tested at reseller AND replaced with some other brand. No help.
BFG GeForce 9800GTX OCX 512MB
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.5GHz boxed 45nm (Socket775)
MSI P7N Diamond LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI (24pin)
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P7N Diamond - Memory Problem ???

Hi all,
I have recently purchased a new computer and have been having trouble with it since day 1.
My current RAM (see specs bellow) is showing incorrect readings. My tech friend is thinking that I have gotten ripped off...
I downloaded Nvidia's nTune and
nTune seems to be reading the Memory Modules as:
2 part numbers as KTC1G-UDIMM
the other 2 Part numbers as KHX8500D2/1GN
In this order:
0 dimm - KTC1G-UDIMM
1 dimm - KHX8500D2/1GN
2 dimm - KTC1G-UDIMM
3 dimm - KHX8500D2/1GN
>>> [EDIT]: Also I'm only able to stably or somewhat stabley runn it at 800... and if I try 1066 it doesnt load my Win XP and tryed the CPU/FSB down at 1066.. while that is ok... when it comes to video or HD video is starts to play up giving me black screens and audio hiccups and a few click of a mouse and boom... time to hit reset.
Is this a Bios issue that can be updated or has the guy given me to older ram sticks??
I play Age of Conan... I know that the game has some issues... but My issue is that the computer just Restarts its self... Straight off and the continues to reboot.
There has not been reports about this regarding AoC.
My Specs:
Intel QX9650
MSI P7N Diamond
2 Kingston KHX8500D2k2/2G KIT's (4gigs)
Gigabyte 9800gx2
WD Raptor 72GB
Segate 1TB

Hi again,
Well this is deffinetly UnMatched RAM....
I ran CPUZ and got founf that the 2 different pairs of RAM have different Manufacturing Dates.. not sure if thats something to go by though i guess it would be since it is in WEEK not Days lol ...but the actual "Part Numbers" show what the deal is:
Memory SPD
DIMM #1
General
Memory type      DDR2
Module format      Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
Size         1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth      PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number      KTC1G-UDIMM
Serial number      A8249D51
Manufacturing date   Week 10/Year 08
Attributes
Number of banks      2
Data width      64 bits
Correction      None
Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
EPP         no
XMP         no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz)      200   266   400
CAS#         3.0   4.0   5.0
RAS# to CAS# delay   3   4   5
RAS# Precharge      3   4   5
TRAS         9   12   18
TRC         12   16   23
DIMM #2
General
Memory type      DDR2
Module format      Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
Size         1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth      PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number      KHX8500D2/1GN
Serial number      8C31F302
Manufacturing date   Week 11/Year 08
Attributes
Number of banks      2
Data width      64 bits
Correction      None
Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
EPP         yes (3 profiles)
XMP         no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz)      200   266   400
CAS#         3.0   4.0   5.0
RAS# to CAS# delay   3   4   5
RAS# Precharge      3   4   5
TRAS         9   12   18
TRC         12   16   23
EPP profile 1 (abbreviated)
Voltage level      2.200 Volts
Address Command Rate   2T
Cycle time      1.875 ns (533.3 MHz)
tCL         5.0 clocks
tRCD         6 clocks (9.50 ns)
tRP         6 clocks (9.50 ns)
tRAS         15 clocks (28.00 ns)
EPP profile 2 (abbreviated)
Voltage level      2.200 Volts
Address Command Rate   2T
Cycle time      2.500 ns (400.0 MHz)
tCL         4.0 clocks
tRCD         4 clocks (10.00 ns)
tRP         4 clocks (10.00 ns)
tRAS         13 clocks (32.00 ns)
EPP profile 3 (abbreviated)
Voltage level      2.200 Volts
Address Command Rate   2T
Cycle time      3.000 ns (333.3 MHz)
tCL         3.0 clocks
tRCD         3 clocks (9.00 ns)
tRP         3 clocks (9.00 ns)
tRAS         10 clocks (30.00 ns)
DIMM #3
General
Memory type      DDR2
Module format      Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
Size         1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth      PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number      KTC1G-UDIMM
Serial number      AA249C51
Manufacturing date   Week 10/Year 08
Attributes
Number of banks      2
Data width      64 bits
Correction      None
Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
EPP         no
XMP         no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz)      200   266   400
CAS#         3.0   4.0   5.0
RAS# to CAS# delay   3   4   5
RAS# Precharge      3   4   5
TRAS         9   12   18
TRC         12   16   23
DIMM #4
General
Memory type      DDR2
Module format      Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
Size         1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth      PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number      KHX8500D2/1GN
Serial number      8D31BC02
Manufacturing date   Week 11/Year 08
Attributes
Number of banks      2
Data width      64 bits
Correction      None
Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
EPP         yes (3 profiles)
XMP         no
Timings table
Frequency (MHz)      200   266   400
CAS#         3.0   4.0   5.0
RAS# to CAS# delay   3   4   5
RAS# Precharge      3   4   5
TRAS         9   12   18
TRC         12   16   23
EPP profile 1 (abbreviated)
Voltage level      2.200 Volts
Address Command Rate   2T
Cycle time      1.875 ns (533.3 MHz)
tCL         5.0 clocks
tRCD         6 clocks (9.50 ns)
tRP         6 clocks (9.50 ns)
tRAS         15 clocks (28.00 ns)
EPP profile 2 (abbreviated)
Voltage level      2.200 Volts
Address Command Rate   2T
Cycle time      2.500 ns (400.0 MHz)
tCL         4.0 clocks
tRCD         4 clocks (10.00 ns)
tRP         4 clocks (10.00 ns)
tRAS         13 clocks (32.00 ns)
EPP profile 3 (abbreviated)
Voltage level      2.200 Volts
Address Command Rate   2T
Cycle time      3.000 ns (333.3 MHz)
tCL         3.0 clocks
tRCD         3 clocks (9.00 ns)
tRP         3 clocks (9.00 ns)
tRAS         10 clocks (30.00 ns)

P7N Diamond RAM Problems

Hello,
first of all sorry for my bad english. I have an Acer G7700 Predator after a Board mailfunction i bought a "real" P7N Diamond. After assembly i got some problems. The system bacame instable. I have an qy9650 Extreme with 4 x 2 GB Kingston KHX8500D2t1. When i set all Bios options in cell menue on AUTO the regonize the RAM as 800 MHZ Ram with 400 Mhz DRAM Frequency. This seems to be the right default settings. In the hardware maintaince manual of Acer the FSB is set to 1333 Mhz with a DRAM Frequency of 400 MHZ. With this setting my system becames extreme instable. So i set the DRAM Frquency to 533. The System runs over 2 hours stable with rigth mark memory tester. After that i set the DRAM Frequence to 333 MHZ to get an 1:1 DRAM FSB ratio. Systems runs stable. Now i wonder how i get the RAM work into 400 MHZ Mode ? Mabye i need some instruction to understand the dependency between FSB-DRAM.

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Is it important to have an FSB:DRAM Ratio of 1:1 ?
No, not at all.
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How much difference is between 667 and 800 Mhz ?
DDR2-800 will, of course, be faster. Only a couple of percent, but definately noticeable in benchmarks.
DDR2-800 is usually not a problem. However, the fact that your are using four modules puts a lot of stress on the memory controller and on the memory bus in general. That is why it sometimes takes slight voltage bump to get things stable. As I said earlier, 1.95V should be enough. Perhaps 1.9V already is.

Re: P7N Diamond standby problems

I too have a very similar problem and it's driving me nuts! Although I've been all over this site reading similar posts (and all over the web), I see no-one offering any solution. :(
Like MrMicrochip, my system goes happily into S3 standby mode but when when trying to resume (keyboard or power button), it powers on briefly with all fans running and 5 seconds later just dies. Nothing posts on the screen and the only way to get the machine running is to power the whole thing off and re-boot as normal. Reset or the power button has no effect.
I've tried all of the applicable BIOS settings with exactly the same results.
I've updated everything I can think of to the latest version - BIOS, Win XP service pack 3, NVIDA drivers (180.48), and tried various settings in Windows.
My System
MSI P7N Diamond (BIOS 1.2 - just upgraded from 1.1)
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500
XFX GeForce 9800GTX
4Gig Crucial Memory 1066MHz/PC2-8500
3 x 500GB Seagate Baracuda SATA drives running RAID 5
Coolermaster RealPower 1000W
Windows XP - tried both on SP2 and SP3
If anyone can help out I'd be very grateful. S3 standby will be really, really helpful with the way I work.
Thanks

cheers, i think we got it, the malfunction is due to USB keyboard and the USB terminals and nothing else,, generally even your mob supports usb keyboard but believe me a lot of guys have found that it does not function fully and usb keyboard fail in many ways, and if you look most manufacturers still Kipp ps2 keyboard terminal even so they are suppose to be out of date but because they have proved to be more reliable than usb keyboard. so your short solution is try ps2 keyboard (i myself do not use usb for this reason) but having looked at your PC config, you have three hdd 500gb and 4 memory sticks, and most likely dvdrom, floppy,..etc. and 1kw psu . but a Lot of mob power distribution is poorly designed and also psu power distribution is poor too, a lot of power has been devoted to hdd and dvd etc and mob ignored then put these two together we may end up in a situation like this.
Solutions:
1-assuming you got the latest bios ,
2- assuming the terminal molex power supply connector to your CPU is 8 then it must be 8 and not 4, if your psu has only 4 then you must use another molex 4 pin connector
A-use ps2 keyboard
B-use usb keyboard but try to remove one or two hdd and see if stand by functions or not (most likely these are the culprits, they draw too much power from psu)
C-use PCI usb card and then connect your usb keyboard to the pci usb card. there is more power in terms of voltage and current stability in pci terminals than anywhere else.
D-update the driver for your usb keyboard using device manager
and the final solution which might hurt your pride send the mob back to msi and ask for a refund

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Bomberh,
My bad...was thinking of the P6N Diamond..the P7N Diamond does NOT have the VTT option in Cell Menu. Just for info, I had .500 volts on my e6750 on stock air cooling and it posted 3600mhz and the CPU temp in bios never exceeded 32 deg C. So, what you have to do is raise the voltage to the CPU to give it a little "oomphh" to get into post and the OS. Your Arctic cooler should be able to handle it..try 1333, increase voltage in cell menu to .375 and see what happens? Up to .500 volts with a good air cooler w/adequate heat paste should be quite safe. You should always stop in bios to check the Hardware Monitor and record what the CPU and System temps are when O/Cing...if you see a steadily increasing temperature you will have plenty of time to pull the plug..lol. Keep us posted. Like Aaron said..it's all about trial and error.
Paul

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Hi Hans
Sorry for posting in worng section
Psu is Seasonic S12 600
85% efficiency on the 12V rail comes very highly rated.
System worked fine for a while with the odd blue screen, i resolved this down to my oc on the 7800's (up to 490/510 core and 1.31 on the memory) they are currently rinning at stock on a water cooled rig (mc50 pump (same as swiftech kit) 2 maze 4 gpus and a pa120.1 rad pumping out the back of the compressor compartment)
All other specs are normal other than the oc on the cpu.

MOVED: P7n platinum: memory errors when overclocking

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Alright, I got the rest of my stuff listed. I don't think there's anything wrong with the memory because it's perfectly fine running at 800mhz when the FSB is 400, and I tested it not too long ago when building the system for my q6600. As for the slots, I have tried slots 1&3, slots 2&4, and all slots full with roughly the same results.
Now that I think about it, it's more likely the board causing me to FAIL than the memory itself. There's no reason the memory should have problems running at 800 or below regardless of what I have the FSB set at. I did stumble across a post saying that this board doesn't like memory not on the compatibility list when overclocking, and I don't think the patriot is on the list. Any ideas on if corsair dominator could run on this board at its rated 1066 speed? Also, do you still think I should update from the p04 bios?
edit:voltages are
VTT: 1.4
Vcore: +.250 (for around 1.35 total under load after vdroop)
NB: 1.4
SB: auto

Diamond memory problem

Hi All
First post, and it's a problem. I have had (and still use) 3 MSI boards and have until now found them to be totally reliable. However I now have a problem, that mat or may not be related to the mii heat wave we are experiencing here in the North West of England. Basically I am in the process of oc'ing my system but I was getting a few blue screens so I thought I would add a few volts to my memory. I uppped it to 1.4 and the system died, so I cleared the bios and rebooted.....nothing. After mush tooing and fro'ing I surmised that the system would boot (intermittently) in single channel at 2T at 333MHZ (see specs) about half an hour ago it died again and will no longer boot. So if anyone has had any similar problems, any advice will be greatly appreciated. System Specs below
MSi K8n Diamond
AMD FX60 (overclocked to 3.2)
2 (2x1) Gb Corsair XMS
2x 7800 GTX (SLi) No OC
Creative XFi Platinum
Vapochill XEII case (Phase Change Cooling)
Various hard disks Maxtor & Samsung
HP DvD 840I
Thanks in advance

Hi Hans
Sorry for posting in worng section
Psu is Seasonic S12 600
85% efficiency on the 12V rail comes very highly rated.
System worked fine for a while with the odd blue screen, i resolved this down to my oc on the 7800's (up to 490/510 core and 1.31 on the memory) they are currently rinning at stock on a water cooled rig (mc50 pump (same as swiftech kit) 2 maze 4 gpus and a pa120.1 rad pumping out the back of the compressor compartment)
All other specs are normal other than the oc on the cpu.

K8N Diamond Memory Problem

Hi Everbody,
I have a computer with these configurations;
but I have a problem. I'm installed four 1Gb DDR 400 Kingston (KHX3200K2/2G). But my computer show 3.4 Gb memory on the bios and 3328 Mb on the windows. What is problem? Where is it problem? Can you help me?. Thanks....
Computer:
Computer Type ACPI x64 Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer 7.0.6001.18000
DirectX DirectX 10.0
Computer Name TUGAY-PC
User Name Tugay
Logon Domain Tugay-PC
Date / Time 2008-10-13 / 23:31
Motherboard:
CPU Type DualCore AMD Opteron 170, 2000 MHz (10 x 200)
Motherboard Name MSI K8N Diamond (MS-7100) (3 PCI, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Dual Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce4 SLI, AMD Hammer
System Memory 3328 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
DIMM1: Kingston K 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM2: Kingston K 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM3: Kingston K 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM4: Kingston K 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz) BIOS Type Award (02/28/07)
Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS (256 MB)
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS (256 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 199BW/940BW/MagicSyncMaster CX915BW (Analog) [19" LCD] (HVEL957143)
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 199BW/940BW/MagicSyncMaster CX915BW (Digital) [19" LCD] (HVEL957143)
Multimedia:
Audio Adapter Creative SB Live! 24-bit (CA0106) Integrated Audio Processor on MSI motherboard

Look for "S/W memory hole Remapping" in BIOS and Enable it in "DRAM Configuration" in "Cell Menu"

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get with these settings FSB 1550 X 8.5
D.O.T. Control...................... Disabled
Intel EIST.......................... Enabled - vid 1.23v
SLI-READY memory.....................Expert
System Clock Mode................... [Manual
CPU Ratio Setting .................. [8.5]
FSB Frequency ...................... [1.550] 387.5 X 8.5 = 3.293 Mhz
PCIE Frequency ..................... [100]
DRAM Frequency ..................... [1066]
Auto Disabled DRAM/PCIE..............Enabled
Advance DRAM Configuration: Manual
1st
CAS# Latency (CL) : 5
TRCD : 5
TRP : 5
TRAS : 15
TRRD : Auto
TRC : 30
TWR : Auto
TWTR : Auto
TREF : Auto
1T/2T NENORY TIMING : 2T
CPU Voltage ........................[0.01250]
DRAM Voltage .......................[2.10]
NB Voltage .........................[1.300]
SB Voltage .... ....................[1.575]
NB Memory Reference Voltage ........[1.045]
Memory Reference Voltage............[1.075]
Memory Terminator Voltage ..........[1.275]
CPU GTL Reference Voltage ..........[Auto]
NB GTL Reference Voltage............[Auto]
FSB Terminator Voltage .............[1.293]
SB Sleep Mode Voltage...............[Auto]
PCIe Expander PLL Voltage ..........[Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum ................[disable]
is to reach 3600? I have to change?
my test in CPU-Z
STOCK:
in test IntelBurnTestV2
is good? thank you
--I hotlinked your images so you didn't need to have the separate links.
I also moved the thread to the overclocking section.
-Mike

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Malik,
If you can, dont use Ntune..it causes more problems than it's worth. Download the new System Tools, and just install the Performance Tools. It offers better OC options, including shader sliders and is much more reliable than Ntune was. Ths only glitch in the Performance Toos, is that you must run your shader at least twice your GPU core speed or it will give you an "invalid setting" message. Nvidia needs to provide an unlink button, or, just link the sliders.
Oh, and you should set all your FSB sttings in bios, not in Ntune or Performance tools.
Paul

P7N Diamond Memory

Hi all,
Well my box had been running fine for over a month but just recently I was having lots of random BSODs and lockups during gaming. Never had any problems in Windows, mainly just games.
I have a 4gb OCZ Reaper DDR2 1066 kit and just finished a few hours of Memtest86+ and it found 5 errors. I'm not sure what caused the memory to go bad, it's a pretty tight fit in there with 2 8800 GTS in SLI and the TRUE. I'm not sure if I can RMA this memory, if I can I will do that.
If I cannot, can anyone suggest some memory that they've had good experience/longevity with? Again, I am not overclocking, my system runs a bit hot compared to most more than likely due to my location in California. The four cores on hot days like today (90-100 degrees) run at about 40-45 degrees Celsius idle. I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it.
Anyways, any suggestions on some replacement memory would be great. I'm looking to get 4GB of DDR 800 or 1066, not sure what you guys would suggest. Thanks!

Quote from: zillmc
Memory works fine on AUTO settings at 800mhz w/o any issue.
That's because they're in fact DDR2-800 ...
Quote from: zillmc
OCZ support told me to set it to 5-5-5-12 with 2.05v, 2.05v, 2.1v, and 2.2v. I have tried these settings and they are unstable, I quickly crash out of games or BSOD.
tRAS = 12 for a DDR2-800 running at 1066MHz is not a good idea. OCZ support told you that?
Set the timings to 5-5-5-15 (or 5-5-5-18) and the voltage to 2.1-2.3V
Also, do not forget about the "FSB/Memory" divider!
If it doesn't want to run at 1066 and you need badly to make it run above 800MHz,
keep those timings and that voltage and set the divider to get something close to 933-1000MHz.
Good luck!

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Bomberth,
Please see the XS thread on the P7N for lots of OC tips and assistance:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=178286
Assuming you have a good Q6600 (preferably G0 stepping) and proper cooling, you should have no trouble OCing on this board.
Regards,
Mark.

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I plugged it into the other slot on the video card and it works fine now.
It should work in all slots. Which slot did you have it in before?

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I'm on the original bios, 1.10. I would have tried updating to the 1.90 Linux bios version, but have been frightened off by the need, reported here, to put in the original OS recovery DVD and revert to that.
When I'm confident that I can make a copy of the existing 9.04 Ubuntu installation and recover back to that afterwards, I might look at updating the bios.
Does the later bios actually make much difference? A quick browse of what info is available doesn't reveal much. Of course, often if there is a huge mistake in early versions "they" prefer not to highlight it.
I'm limited by not having easy access to a USB DVD drive, so I'm trying to work with thumb drives or across the network.

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