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First off:
Learn how Intel's Core 2 architecture works. Basically: how the FSB calls the shots, how Vdrop needs to be compensated for, etc..
>>Core 2 Duo/Quad OC Guide<<
If you wish to go more advanced (after doing the above, obviously), you can start tweaking with GTLREF and FSB VTT voltages: >>GTLREF and FSB VTT Voltage Tweaking<<
VGA card overclocking is another story... NVIDIA and ATI differ in both ways. With NVIDIA, getting the GPU and/or shader clock speed higher help most.
It would be better to overclock one card at a time, then go with the lowest overall clock speeds for both - upon completion - test them together (the thermals will play MUCH more a case here, so watch those temps while running SLI and the overclock).
>>RivaTuner<<

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P7N Diamond Optimization and Overclocking

Hello again!
First, any tips on what BIOS features I can turn off/on to optimize my motherboard? I’m finding that this board has a ton of settings, many of which I’m not sure what they do. The manual isn’t much help so I figured I would come and ask you folks. Of course, this leads to my second question(s)…
I’ve been building my own PC’s for some time now but one thing I NEVER did was overclock. I’m not sure why I never did this before; I guess I just never thought it was necessary. Now, I would like to give it a shot. Could someone point me to a site, book or something that is good at teaching a beginner on how to overclock.
Currently I have an E8500 Wolfdale on my board. From what I’ve read this processor is good for overclocking. I’m looking at getting it up to about 3.8 – 4.0 GHz. I used CPUZ to get some information from the chip. Its core voltage bounces between 1.128 v and 1.1336 v (not sure why it bounces, is this normal?). My VID is 1.1500 v with a frequency of 333.33 x6.
I also have 6 GB of OCZ PC8500 Reaper memory. Two 2 GB chips and two 1 GB chips running at 1066 MHz I wanted to overclock my RAM but I have no idea where to go with this. I’ve also heard that OCZ Reaper isn’t good for overclocking but I don’t know how true that is. One thing that I think may be a problem is that the 2 GB chips have a timing of 5-5-5-18 and the 1 GB chips have a timing of 5-5-5-15. I’m guessing this could be a problem.
Lastly, I want to overclock my video cards. Again, I have no idea where to go. I have two 9800 GX2’s running Quad SLI.
I currently have an ABS BZ800 800 watt PSU which seems to run everything great even though I’ve read that I should have 1000+ watts. Will this matter when overclocking?
Thanks in advance (again) for any help!!!!
GH

First off:
Learn how Intel's Core 2 architecture works. Basically: how the FSB calls the shots, how Vdrop needs to be compensated for, etc..
>>Core 2 Duo/Quad OC Guide<<
If you wish to go more advanced (after doing the above, obviously), you can start tweaking with GTLREF and FSB VTT voltages: >>GTLREF and FSB VTT Voltage Tweaking<<
VGA card overclocking is another story... NVIDIA and ATI differ in both ways. With NVIDIA, getting the GPU and/or shader clock speed higher help most.
It would be better to overclock one card at a time, then go with the lowest overall clock speeds for both - upon completion - test them together (the thermals will play MUCH more a case here, so watch those temps while running SLI and the overclock).
>>RivaTuner<<

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Bomberh,
My bad...was thinking of the P6N Diamond..the P7N Diamond does NOT have the VTT option in Cell Menu. Just for info, I had .500 volts on my e6750 on stock air cooling and it posted 3600mhz and the CPU temp in bios never exceeded 32 deg C. So, what you have to do is raise the voltage to the CPU to give it a little "oomphh" to get into post and the OS. Your Arctic cooler should be able to handle it..try 1333, increase voltage in cell menu to .375 and see what happens? Up to .500 volts with a good air cooler w/adequate heat paste should be quite safe. You should always stop in bios to check the Hardware Monitor and record what the CPU and System temps are when O/Cing...if you see a steadily increasing temperature you will have plenty of time to pull the plug..lol. Keep us posted. Like Aaron said..it's all about trial and error.
Paul

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get with these settings FSB 1550 X 8.5
D.O.T. Control...................... Disabled
Intel EIST.......................... Enabled - vid 1.23v
SLI-READY memory.....................Expert
System Clock Mode................... [Manual
CPU Ratio Setting .................. [8.5]
FSB Frequency ...................... [1.550] 387.5 X 8.5 = 3.293 Mhz
PCIE Frequency ..................... [100]
DRAM Frequency ..................... [1066]
Auto Disabled DRAM/PCIE..............Enabled
Advance DRAM Configuration: Manual
1st
CAS# Latency (CL) : 5
TRCD : 5
TRP : 5
TRAS : 15
TRRD : Auto
TRC : 30
TWR : Auto
TWTR : Auto
TREF : Auto
1T/2T NENORY TIMING : 2T
CPU Voltage ........................[0.01250]
DRAM Voltage .......................[2.10]
NB Voltage .........................[1.300]
SB Voltage .... ....................[1.575]
NB Memory Reference Voltage ........[1.045]
Memory Reference Voltage............[1.075]
Memory Terminator Voltage ..........[1.275]
CPU GTL Reference Voltage ..........[Auto]
NB GTL Reference Voltage............[Auto]
FSB Terminator Voltage .............[1.293]
SB Sleep Mode Voltage...............[Auto]
PCIe Expander PLL Voltage ..........[Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum ................[disable]
is to reach 3600? I have to change?
my test in CPU-Z
STOCK:
in test IntelBurnTestV2
is good? thank you
--I hotlinked your images so you didn't need to have the separate links.
I also moved the thread to the overclocking section.
-Mike

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Absolutely nothing helps. NOTHING. I have tried every possible thing you could expect normal user to try. This mainboard is crap. I got this to almost work with some (very expensive) Kingston memory sticks which were mentioned somewhere with this board, it only crashes few times a day now! Every component is tested at reseller AND replaced with some other brand. No help.
BFG GeForce 9800GTX OCX 512MB
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.5GHz boxed 45nm (Socket775)
MSI P7N Diamond LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI (24pin)
Corsair Dominator XMS2-8500 4GB Kit (1066MHz)
Nexus NX-8050 500W 80 PLUS

P7N Diamond vP07 and v1.42 Beta

These BIOS' are for the P7N Diamond and the P7N Diamond ONLY.
I've attached the performance BIOS vP07 and beta BIOS v1.42. Please provide feedback on these BIOS' as they can help other users in future.
>>Click here for v1.42<<
NOTES:
Do not load optimized defaults with the performance BIOS, as it will set memory timings to 4-4-4-18 1T and no memory can handle these tight timings at high speeds, without excessive amounts of voltage.
The beta may be missing options, as they aren't always complete BIOS'. But they tend to fix quite some issues.
*** Flashing either of these BIOS' are at your own risk. Do not complain if you end up with a paper weight! ***
*** Do not post problems/queries in here! All non-feedback related replies will be removed with/without warning! ***
Flashing the safe way:
NOTE: Use second mode from the Tool, (Point to BIOS file directly). Extract BIOS from archive and point to the BIOS file.

Quote from: theYipster on 18-March-08, 00:11:56
The 1.1B4 BIOS has been quite good. Using it, I've been able to bench my Q6600 at 4.05ghz (450mhz FSB) and find stability at 3.6ghz (400mhz FSB) with +.25000 vCore. However, I know my chip is capable of being stable at 3.6ghz on less, and I'm hoping future BIOSes will only further improve OC results.
Thank you for the feedback.
Quote from: theYipster on 18-March-08, 00:11:56
I recall there being quite a flurry of new releases leading up to the current 1.1B4 release, but there hasn't been anything since. Do you have any word on when we can expect further BIOS developments for the P7N Diamond.
I'm not quite sure, but I will continue to check and upload the new betas as they come.
Quote from: theYipster on 18-March-08, 00:11:56
Also, while many of us have been able to zone in on stable FSB Term and GTL Ref voltages, the meaning of the numeric, non-direct-voltage settings remains a mystery. Have you been able to find out any more information about these settings and how they relate to an actual voltage?
I'm still waiting for an answer on this...

Re: P7N Diamond vP07 and v1.16 Beta

hello ...
my config is qx9650 p7n diamond - 4x 1gb mushkin 8500 cl5 - 2x msi8800gts g92 - bios original 1.0
i'm not able to oc cpu
i'm not able to run 1066mhz ddr module due to 2.25v standard voltage
what kind of beta or performance bios can i try for this problems?
thanks

Bios 1.0
man 800 - auto vdimm - man sett. cl5 others auto. no problems at 5-4-3-9-23-2t
man 800 - 2.1v vdimm - man sett. cl5 others auto. no problems at 5-4-3-9-23-2t
man 900 - auto vdimm - man sett. cl5 others auto. no windows boot
man 900 - 2.1v vdimm - man sett. cl5 others auto. no problems at 5-5-4-10-26-2t
man 1000 - 2.1v vdimm - man sett. cl5 others auto. no problems at 5-5-4-11-29-2t
man 1066 - 2.1v vdimm - man sett. cl5 others auto. no windows boot
man 1000 - auto vdimm - man sett. cl5 others auto. system not stable
man 1000 - 2.2v vdimm - man sett. cl5 others auto. no problems at 5-5-4-11-29-2t
1066mhz is not stable with bios 1.0
not i have to try with p07 bios.
if you have some idea replay ... what is best setting for others voltage parameters?
how does nb memory ref. volt. - memory ref. volt. - memory term. volt. works?
what does others parameters means?

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thats funny mine did that when i first got it , but when i received my new memory and video card everything was normal...so i dont remember if it was the memory or the VC..i just totally forgot about it..funny though i thought it was only me

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Yep, CPU-Z version 1.51 is what I have installed. It kind of stinks that 3.7G's is the highest folks can get this board. I know many folks get the E8500 well past 4+G's, but I'll be happy with a stable 3.7G's. I really wanted to keep with BIOS overclocking, I just thought maybe I was doing something wrong. Any suggestions on some sort of performance testing I can do at default settings then at my overclock settings so I can verify I'm getting a performance increase?
Thanks for the reply!!!!!!!
GH
P.S. Oh yea, my VID is 1.2250v... I knew I had it written down!

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Quote from: TimeReaper on 15-February-06, 09:15:17
I know this board can reach 300+ by reviews by Tom's Hardware. But I was wondering how I could get my FSB up there? I can't seem to get past the hurtle at 270. Anything above this will make the system fail to start up and I have to clear the BIOS again.
I lowered the HT to the equivalent of 3X, and CPU Multiplier to 8X using a venice core 3500+. I even tried adding voltage to the HT. I'm wondering if I'm missing something in this equation that stops me from getting 300+ FSB? The overclockable items are too many and unexplained.
If someone could spread some light on what else needs to be done, please tell me.
My system is as follows.
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD64 3500+ Venice
OCZ DDR600 Platinum Elite
520 OCZ Powerstream
2x Samsung 200G@Raid 0
Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
Sapphire GTO2
Hi dude,
I have the similar problem as well. Sounds like you are in the bad shape, but yeah, try to loose your RAM settings. First, all settings auto seem to be good, but it's actually not the case. You have to set TRC and TRFC as higher than 12 and 14. I am seeting those to be 14, 18, and it seems to be working great. It will be better to set the burst length as 4 beats. I don't like this board coz I can't set the drive length to be weak instead of normal detected by the Windows. My system can post, but I got problems of playing 3D demos and games, which looks like it's the problem of motherboard. Not mature enough.
My rig:
AMD Athlon64 3700+ @ 2.7GHz
OCZ Platinum Elite DDR600 2.5-4-4-10 Dual Channel
Leadtek PX6800GT @ 425/1200 at 2nd PCIe slot
2 x WD 120GB 7200RPM + Samsung 160GB HD

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Although this board has some overclocking functionality, it is not possible to tweak enough parameters to overclock the CPU by much. I have found that I can run my E2140 at 1800MHz, but I need to tell it that I have 533 RAM to make it work, or it's clocking the 667 RAM which I have too fast (along with some other components no doubt).
If you read this post, I wonder if you could tell me what value is displayed for 'CPU Temperature' in the BIOS health check screen? My system says that the CPU temp varies between -2 deg C and about 7 deg C so I would be interested to see if they all do that. I have the same motherboard and CPU as you.

Anoying issue with K8N Diamond PLUS and overclocking.

I just got the motherboard wehn i overclock and restart the PC either from windows or BIOS etc. The PC will not boot and have to turn it off then turn back on. Apart from this annoying issue it's a great board better theen my A8N SLi Premium mostly due to the extra CPU voltage yay :D Is anyone else getting this issue?
System spcs are
AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ @ 2766MHz (1.6v)
2GB Crucial Tracer PC4000
2x DELL Slient Geforce 7800GTX 256MB card
Espison 700w SLi cert PSU with EPS CPU voltage connected
Koolance EXOS AI Watercooling
MSi K8N Diamond PLUS
2x 150GB Raptor X in RAID-0
Coolermaser RC-830 w/ 4x 140mm + 3x 120mm fans

thats funny mine did that when i first got it , but when i received my new memory and video card everything was normal...so i dont remember if it was the memory or the VC..i just totally forgot about it..funny though i thought it was only me

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Bomberth,
Please see the XS thread on the P7N for lots of OC tips and assistance:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=178286
Assuming you have a good Q6600 (preferably G0 stepping) and proper cooling, you should have no trouble OCing on this board.
Regards,
Mark.

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I plugged it into the other slot on the video card and it works fine now.
It should work in all slots. Which slot did you have it in before?

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