MOVED: P7N diamond Q6600 weired oce issue

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Malik,
  If you can, dont use Ntune..it causes more problems than it's worth.  Download the new System Tools, and just install the Performance Tools.  It offers better OC options, including shader sliders and is much more reliable than Ntune was.  Ths only glitch in the Performance Toos, is that you must run your shader at least twice your GPU core speed or it will give you an "invalid setting" message.  Nvidia needs to provide an unlink button, or, just link the sliders.
Oh, and you should set all your FSB sttings in bios, not in Ntune or Performance tools.
Paul

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  • P7N Diamond / Q6600 / HELP!

    Intro
    Good Afternoon. I have searched everywhere for information regarding the issues I’m having and haven’t found anything, so I though id ask here. About a year ago I built two computers using the exact same parts (one for me and the other for a friend of mine). My friends build has been running perfect since day one, with no issues or errors. Mine however, has been a problem since I turned it on. I don’t want to post a confusing wall of text, but want to give as many details as possible, so here goes.
    Problems
    1)   Will not run with optimised settings since first install - Just restarts before starting windows. (Only boots ok when FSB is set to 1333)
    2)   Looping Restarts – After powering on it will restart itself between 3-6 times after boot screen, then successfully boots onto windows ok.
    3)   Crashing to Desktop/BSOD’s – Mainly runs ok when on desktop/applications/internet. Games are the issue. (Fixed some errors by replacing CMOS Battery. Main BSOD error “Hardware Error – Please contact your manufacturer”
    Previous Tests Done
    1) Cleared BIOS settings
    2) Stripped it down to barebone (outside case), and removed everything It didn’t need to run.
    3) Tried changing RAM - Dual/Single Channel – One stick at a time.
    4) Memtest, Futuremark, Prime95, GPU-Z, CPU-Z and others.
    *Currently have processor on RMA as it died (Have signal to monitor from Graphics Card, but no boot, so testing on the fly is impossible*
    NOTE: All drivers are up-to-date, Computer Temperatures are more than low enough
    *BIOS changes/setup*
    Advanced BIOS Features:
       * CPU Feature
             o Execute Bit Support = disabled
             o Set Limit CPUID maxVal to 3 = disabled
       * Chipset Feature
             o HPET = disabled
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       * Intel EIST = enabled
       * SLI Ready Memory = enabled
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             o FSB Clock = 1333
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       * Adjust CPU Ration = 9
       * Advanced DRAM configuration
             o DRAM Timing Mode = Auto
       * Adjust PCI-E Frequency = 100
       * Auto disable DRAM/PCI Frequency = enabled
       * CPU Voltage = Auto
       * DRAM Voltage = Auto
       * NB Voltage = Auto
       * SB Voltage = Auto
       * FSB Terminator = Auto
       * --- All other voltages are left on "Auto" ---
       * Spread Spectrum = disabled
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    Case: Thermaltake Armour+ VA3000
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    MS-7510 Ver1.0 (Rev1.0) (A7510-NMS100) (Bios Ver: 1.4)
    HDD: 1 X Western Digital 500GB - SATA (WD500DAAKS)
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    CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 2.4GHZ/8M/1066/05A (SLACR)
    CPU FAN:Zalman CNPS9500 AM2
    MEMORY: Corsair Dominator-XMS2-PC8500 1066Mhz DDR2 – 2.1v
    OTHER CARDS: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (Free with Motherboard)
    OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64Bit – SP1
    PSU: Hiper Type-M SLI 1000w
    *Air Cooling: 5 x Internal Fans, 9 including CPU/GPU/PSU/RAM
    PSU IMG:
    Additional Information:
    As mentioned earlier, my Q6600 is in the process of RMA so can’t really do any testing with Bios or anything else. Another thing… When on the phone to Intel’s Technicians. They said that due to the board only having 1.8v DIMM’s, they said because my RAM was 2.1v, it is those that are causing all my issues. In relation to the RAM spec on the listed computer configuration, could anyone confirm that? As I asked Corsair before the build and they said it would be fine.
    I hope I’ve given all the required details, needed for a conclusion to my problems or even a guess.
    Overall, Thankyou for reading. Any help/advice is much appreciated. 

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    1)   Will not run with optimised settings since first install - Just restarts before starting windows. (Only boots ok when FSB is set to 1333)
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             o FSB Clock = 1333
    Mh, did you mistype something, or are you talking about overclocking when you mention "optimised settings"?  I mean:  FSB 1333 is already higher than the native FSB Speed of a Q6600 (=266 MHz or 1066 MT/s effectively).  Can you explain again what you mean?  Because if you really overclocked the FSB/CPU to 333 MHz FSB CLock Speed (and higher) all your problems may simply be the symptoms of non-stable overclocking settings (which is nothing unusual).
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    MEMORY: Corsair Dominator-XMS2-PC8500 1066Mhz DDR2 – 2.1v
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    Another thing… When on the phone to Intel’s Technicians. They said that due to the board only having 1.8v DIMM’s, they said because my RAM was 2.1v, it is those that are causing all my issues. In relation to the RAM spec on the listed computer configuration, could anyone confirm that?
    Yes and no.  The native speed of your modules is DDR2-800 @1.8V +/- 0.1V (JEDEC Standard) which means that such a setting is compliant with the industry specifications for DDR2 Memory and should pose no stability risk to the system (given that none of the modules are faulty).
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  • P7N Diamond: Q6600 to 4.05ghz!! But stability at 3.6ghz?

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    Proc: 3.6ghz (400 x 9)
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  • P7n Diamond + Q6600 = Reboots over and over

    I have a P7n diamond that has been in my system paired with E6850 for a while now and been running no problem.  Well I picked up a Q6600 and put it in and now it reboots everytime when it starts to go into windows.  No errors or anything.. Just poof and reboot..  Will sit in the bios all day long and temp in bios is 21 to 23 celcius.  Anyone have any suggestions for me.  I have put all the bios settings on Auto just trying to get the machine to load windows.  does the same thing with Windows Vista and Windows 7.  Startup screen comes up and churns and right when screen is supposed to switch to windows it reboots...  Thanks for all suggestions...
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    Quote from: gsoutherland on 07-February-09, 01:53:46
    I tried that and everything else I could think of.  I under no circumstances could get it to get past the vista or windows 7 startup screen.  I OC'ed, underclocked, left stock, and anything else you can think of.  I finally gave up and went back to my E6850.  I'll do my research before I purchase another CPU.  After looking around I see a lot of Q6600 users have problems with the P7N Diamond.
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  • P7N Diamond 1066mhz Reaper boot issue

    I have had this machine for a year, originally I had 4 sticks of 800mhz OCZ ram in it, but somehow 2 of the sticks developed errors (1 stick from each batch of 2) and they were returned, I ended up replacing them with 2x2gb OCZ reaper HPC sticks which i have been running at 800mhz (i know thats their ACTUAL speed).
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    Quote from: Papamambo on 28-April-09, 00:56:23
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    Dude Can u tell me the exact settings u have done in BIOS . And I dont think that my system is really stable with these settings . And what does SPD means ? I am really noob in Overclocking .

  • MOVED: P7N Diamond Overclocking Assistance Please

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    Bomberh,
      My bad...was thinking of the P6N Diamond..the P7N Diamond does NOT have the VTT option in Cell Menu.  Just for info, I had .500 volts on my e6750 on stock air cooling and it posted 3600mhz and the CPU temp in bios never exceeded 32 deg C.  So, what you have to do is raise the voltage to the CPU to give it a little "oomphh" to get into post and the OS.  Your Arctic cooler should be able to handle it..try 1333, increase voltage in cell menu to .375 and see what happens?  Up to .500 volts with a good air cooler w/adequate heat paste should be quite safe.  You should always stop in bios to check the Hardware Monitor and record what the CPU and System temps are when O/Cing...if you see a steadily increasing temperature you will have plenty of time to pull the plug..lol.  Keep us posted.  Like Aaron said..it's all about trial and error.
    Paul

  • MOVED: P7N Diamond - Memory Problem ???

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  • MOVED: P7N Diamond/E8500 Overclocking Issue

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  • MOVED: P7N Diamond Settings

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    Bomberth,
    Please see the XS thread on the P7N for lots of OC tips and assistance:
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  • MOVED: P7N Diamond VP09 release date?

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    I've never seen it, but I did read this on extremesystems
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  • P7n diamond+Q6600 overclocking not stable

    hi folks
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    Quote
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  • MOVED: P7N Diamond - Sound in Ubuntu/Linux

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    I'm on the original bios, 1.10. I would have tried updating to the 1.90 Linux bios version, but have been frightened off by the need, reported here, to put in the original OS recovery DVD and revert to that.
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    Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 03-March-08, 09:01:20
    Have you done a new fresh installation?
    Latest DX installed?(https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=114542.0), January 2008
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