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Please read this topic. It's a bunch of info, but it will tell you a lot about this board. Your DRAM is not the issue at hand, BIOS 1.2 is. Flash 1.51 beta to overclock stable. CAS Latency 4 is not an option in the current BIOS versions, it gets set to 3. So for the time being it's either CAS 5 or CAS 3.

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K9N Platinum and Corsair CM2X1024-6400 **UPDATE - FIXED**

I'm trying to help a friend with their new K9N Platinum motherboard. We got everything installed successfully, but after getting into Windows, the machine will just freeze up randomly doing anything, software install, whatever, within a minute, or sometimes as long as 5 or more minutes.
Basic specs:
K9N Platinum motherboard
Flashed to BIOS version 1.4
AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ (65W) socket AM2
BFG Geforce 7900GS
500W PCI-E power supply
Wester Digital 120GB 7200rpm SATA HD 8MB cache
Single 1GB stick of Corsair CM2X1024-6400 RAM (DDR2 800MHz) - Brand New - DIMM slot 1
Windows XP Professional with SP2 and all windows updates installed. (using IE6)
Installed all latest drivers from MSI's website for this board.
We tried 1st with DRAM timings on auto, then tried to set the timing manually according to Corsair's spec sheet for this module, including memory voltage at 1.9V.
We think it might be a bad memory module, because after getting into Windows, we run memtest, and errors are detected within the 1st minute. We have RMA'd the RAM module. I'm wondering though if we just didn't have the timing for the memory set correctly in the BIOS.
Is anyone here runnning this exact memory successfully, or is this board incompatible with this Corsair module? If you are running successfully, did you have to change the SPD timings manually, or are you running using the SPD Auto setting?
If you had to use manual setting, any help with the values to set in DRAM Timing would be greatly appreciated. As much detail as you can provide would be great. Thanks for your help.

Ok, still having major problem with running world of warcraft. This PC freezes/locks up in the game every single time within 5-10 minutes of play no matter what we've tried so far. This is not a shutdown or restart problem, just a freeze/lock-up symptom. I'm getting a bit frustrated at this point. No other problems in windows are encountered. We can work in windows with any other application, like adobe photoshop or any other software, with zero trouble. I'm beginning to think this is video card related somehow with this 7900 GS card.
For added info, the video card being used is this;
BFG Tech BFGR79256GSOCE GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 7900GS
Core clock 525MHz(vs. 450MHz standard)
PixelPipelines 20
Memory Clock 1320MHz
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 9
OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
Ports - DVI 2
The mouse used is a logitech USB track ball mouse if that has any bearing on anything. No mouse troubles though, just thought I'd mention it.
Here's what we've tried so far;
Updated to BIOS version 1.4. This was done after the Windows XP install though, so not sure if something is hosed up here.
1) We set the RAM timings to 5-5-5-12-2T and 2.1Volts in BIOS manually, as per direct recommendation from Corsair.
1a) Ran memtest all night for about 9 hours straight and no errors at all detected. So I'm guessing this isn't a RAM problem really, but who knows .
2) Installed the Windows XP SP2 Hotfix for Dual Core Processors - hotfix KB896256
3) Installed the AMD Dual Core Optimizer from here -->http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html
4) Updated the Nvidia system drivers with the nForce 550/570/570/590 SLI (C51+MCP55) driver package 9.19 WHQL from MSI's website here--> http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=730&kind=1
5) Currently running Nvidia video driver version --> ForceWare Release 90 Version: 93.71 Release Date: November 2, 2006 WHQL Certified.
6) Ran a complete Direct X diagnostics via dxdiag. All tests passed successfully.
7) Tried to install the AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (x86 and x64 exe) 1.3.2.16 from here -->http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html
But it would NOT install because it says I have to first uninstall the current driver via add/remove programs, but it's not listed there, before installing this one. So, I have no idea where to look or how to do this, I'm afraid of messing up the processor driver. Can someone explain how to install this driver, and would not having this installed possibly be a potential cause of the game lock-ups?
I don't know what else to do. Could the version 9.19 Nvidia SATA or IDE drivers I installed be causing these game lock-up problems? If so, do I just go into device manager and just rollback drivers for all of the devices listed under the "IDE/ATA ATAPI Controllers" in device manager?
Again, this was a fresh windows XP Pro install on a newly formatted hard drive. Obviously something is fubar, but I'm running out of things to try. Maybe going into BIOS and "load optimized defaults" and start over?
Lastly, the tech specs on newegg.com for this video card say "A 350W PCI Express compliant system power supply (with 12V current rating of 22A or more)" is needed. Since the 500W power supply we're using has 2 separate 12V rails rated at 20A each, could this be the problem?? I'm open to suggestions. Thank you.

P965 Neo and Corsair XMS2 DIMM kit 1024MB PC2-5300U CL4-4-4-12 (DDR2-667

I have a nasty compatibility issue with my P965 Neo board in combination with Corsair DDR2 memory.
Hardware config:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400, 2x2.13GHz, 266MHz FSB
MSI P965 Neo-F (7235 PCB-V1.1) BIOS V1.50
Corsair XMS2 DIMM kit 1024MB (2x512MB) PC2-5300U CL4-4-4-12 (DDR2-667) XMS5402v5.7
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB 16MB SATA II
Asus Extreme N7600GS SILENT/HTD, GeForce 7600 GS, 256MB, DVI, TV-out, PCIe
Using the Corsair memory at 667MHz (BIOS: auto by SPD) results in an unstable system and a lot of memory errors (checked by memtest86+). If I set the frequency to 533MHz the system is 100% stable.
Anyone else who encountered this problem? I have also tried to use only 1 DIMM for single channel mode, same problem.
Will this issue be fixed in the upcoming BIOS release?
cheers,
winkel111

I have a MSI P965 Neo-F .... http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=P965_Neo-F&class=mb
on given link above not in manual:
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Due to the High Performance Memory design, motherboards or system configurations may or may not operate smoothly at the JEDEC (Joint Electron Device Engineering Council) standard settings (BIOS Default on the motherboard) such as DDR2 voltage, memory speeds and memory timing. Please confirm and adjust your memory setting in the BIOS accordingly for better system stability.
@winkel111
strange there are no corsair 5300 only 5400 ?
and cm2x512-5400c4 needs 2.0v but cm2x512-5400c4pro only 1.9v ! so maybe it has nothing to say that my 5400c4pro are perfect ?
how good are the samsungs ?

P965 Platinum and E6600 won't go to 3GHz

Hello,
I have a MSI P965 Platinum and a E6600. Currently I have two sticks of Corsair Value Select 1GB PC-5300 RAM, rated at 667Mhz 5-5-5-15.
The E6600's stock is 2.4GHz, and I want to go to 3GHz. This should be dead simple - not only can the E6600 usually clock much higher, but 3GHz will only require a 333Mhz FSB (9 x 333), which means my RAM doesn't have to be overclocked at all since it is rated for 667MHz DDR2. I should be able to obtain 3GHz with a nice comfortable 1:1 FSB:RAM ratio without stressing the Corsair Value ram beyond specifications.
However, it just won't work. I seem to be having RAM instabilities at 667MHz 5-5-5-15 and 333Mhz FSB. The reason I say RAM is because Memtest86 freezes, and SuperPi has a 'not exact in round' error in 16M and 32M - which apparently means there is a problem with memory stability. Now, I know this sounds like the RAM is faulty, but I don't think it is, because when I run stock 266MHz FSB, the system is fine at 4:5 divider to make the RAM 667Mhz. It's only when I increase the FSB (and not the RAM at all) does the system become unstable. At 266MHz FSB and 667MHz RAM, my system will pass any stress test, but not at 333Mhz FSB and 667Mhz RAM.
I've upped the CPU voltage 3 notches to around 1.350 or so under load. My ram is at 1.9v, although I tried 1.95v too. I didn't touch the chipset voltage (should I?). My temperatures seem ok - I'm only using the stock Intel cooler, but it should be able to handle 3GHz fine. It hovers around 48c idle, 60c load according to Everest Ultimate (before it crashes in SuperPi), so it doesn't appear to be overheating while overclocked. Not great tempts but acceptable.
However, there are two things I've noticed:
- In the BIOS, if I select CAS to be 5 or 6, CPUZ still reports my ram at CAS3 (which my RAM can't do at 667Mhz), or 3-5-5-15. However if I select CAS4, it reports CAS4 properly (still unstable though), or 4-5-5-15. This is only a problem when I overclock the FSB - at stock FSB, the CAS timings are reported correctly. It could be an issue with CPUZ, but I doubt it. If there is a bug with the P965 Platinum not setting the CAS right when overclocking, this might explain why I'm having RAM stability issues even though I'm not overclocking the RAM - i.e. because the board is not using the right CAS setting. Is this a known bug? Also, I tried Auto SPD but it tried to use 4-4-4-12 at 667MHz (again, which this RAM won't do).
- When I run 333Mhz FSB and 667MHz RAM, the POST shows some sort of error message about the board not supporting CPU's with a 267Mhz FSB or something (which is weird, because 266Mhz is the stock speed *shrug*), and that it's resetting it. Sorry I can't recall the exact error off hand, but I can try the overclock again and provide it later on if needed. Anyway, despite the error message, the overclock still applies - it will boot into Vista 64-bit at 3Ghz, it just won't pass any stress test.
Is it possible a BIOS update could help me? I run V1.4, and even though I know there is a V1.8 now, no newer version mentions anything about fixing overclocking issues. I don't like to update my BIOS unless necessary (and I don't even have a floppy drive anyway, would need to figure out how to do it via USB).
Thanks for any help. I'm certain my RAM isn't faulty and I'm certain my CPU should be able to reach 3Ghz surely. I'm also pretty sure heat isn't an issue. I think maybe the board is trying to force CAS3 when FSB overclocking or something? That's my guess anyway.

Thanks for the reply!
Sorry, I should have mentioned I was definitely achieving 1:1 - I recall the confusion over why my RAM was trying to be 800+MHz at 667 and then I realized 533 actually meant 1:1, 667 4:5 etc, so I am definitely running at 533/1:1. I doubt this RAM would even post at 800+ MHz.
So updating the BIOS may help? Ok thanks, I guess I will update then. I don't see it in the "fix" list though on the site. Is there a way I can get a *full* fix/enhancement list for 1.5, 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8 so I know exactly what I'm fixing going from 1.4 to 1.8?
Also, does MSI support LiveUpdate BIOS in Windows Vista 64 yet? And if not, is there an official way to update via a USB stick? (no FDD here).

P965 Platinum and XP hell - found a way

Hi guys,
I had ugly startup problems with the P965 Platinum and a Samsung Spinpoint SATAII HDD. So I want to share with you how I finally got there. I tried for a whole day to install XP as I wanted a dual boot with Vista. Trying XP Home OEM did not work, I got those blue screens we have seen in here. I tried everything, but to no avail. Two short beeps during startup also confused me, but forget about those for now. Well after hours of frustration I installed Vista. It worked! And told me that my Corsair RAM was probably OK, as well as my HDD. Then I had a drink too much and went to bed.
Today I slipstreamed XP with Service Pack 2, and managed to make a bootable CD. So now I got XP Home SP2. Tried again, and this time I got past blue screens...but when XP came to the first reboot...arghh no HDD. Today I was actually going to RMA the whole crap, but got a tip from the vendor.
On the MSI driver CD there is a IDE folder, with a "floppy" containing the AHCI ICH8 drivers. I read the readme and moved the files to a floppy, then put the floppy into the drive. Then I went into the BIOS and set SATA to AHCI. Started the install, pressed F6 and loaded the drivers from the floppy. I selected ICH8 AHCI, and XP was happy. During the installation it read the floppy once more and obviously recognized stuff. So here I am, up and running. Rock steady.
I think both MSI and vendors should inform us better about such.
I still got those two short beeps at startup, three if the USB CDRom is on. Can anyone please explain those beeps to me?
Cheers,

Glad you found your way out of "hell". The problems that threw themselves in your way are well known to many P965 Plat. users in this forum. It is good to see that you were able to solve them.
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I still got those two short beeps at startup, three if the USB CDRom is on. Can anyone please explain those beeps to me?
Usually it is one beep for each USB-device attached.

P965 Platinum and Realtek RTL8111B problem

I have a dual boot setup on my computer: Windows XP and Fedora 7 Linux.
After booting Windows XP I will have to COMPLETELY UNPLUG the power supply from my computer before booting to Fedora 7 Linux. The reason: If I simply reboot or turn off the computer (simply turning off does not remove the power from the mainboard), then the Realtek RTL8111B onboard LAN is left in a state which prevents Fedora 7 Linux from being able to use the LAN. Fedora simply reports the LAN is not available. The solution, which I find unacceptable, is to completely turn off the Realtek RTL8111B on the P965 Platinum and use an old Realtek 8129 PCI network board.
A better solution would be for the MSI BIOS to reset all of the Realtek RTL8111B LAN chipset's bits to a valid state so that Fedora 7 Linux would be able to properly recognize and use the onboard LAN.
Again, if I COMPLETELY UNPLUG my computer's power supply Fedora 7 Linux always finds and uses the onboard LAN. It is only after using Windows XP and rebooting to Fedora 7 Linux without completely unplugging the power supply first that there is a problem. This would seem to indicate the MSI BIOS is not resetting the Realtek RTL8111B onboard LAN chipset to a clean state when it initializes the system upon booting.
I am using MSI P965 Platinum BIOS version 1.4
John

Uhm, I'm having exactly the same issue under linux.
The router's led will stay off and it looks like there was no network cable connected (Realtek Ethernet controllers are insmod'ed and everything looks fine).
The only thing I haven't tried is unplugging the power supply's cable ... weird.
I'm also upset about this problem >:(
MSI P965 Platinum - BIOS v1.4

MSI 965 Platinum and Q6600 Go edition Overclocking help

Firstly this is my rig that I'm discussing...
Intel Q6600 GO edition @ 2.4ghz (9x266 Stock speeds)
8800GTS 640mb (Stock speed)
MSI 965 platinum with Bios v1.8
4gig (4x1gb) Corsair XMS2 PC6400 (800mhz Stock speed)
Seasonic 650W PSU
Zalman CNPS9500A LED CPU Cooler
Seagate Sata2 series v10 HD's
Pioneer Sata DVDRW
Audigy 2 ZS audio PCI
Compro PCIE Dual DVB-T
Windows Vista 64 Ultimate SP1 & Windows XP SP3 on dual boot.
Ok now thats out the way, basically what I need to know is a walk through for this motherboard to JUST overclock the CPU to about 3GHz per core and was wondering what BIOS settings need to be enabled/disabled to effect this properly...I don't want to overclock ram or voltages though.

Ok I've pretty much sorted what I needed to know....got it stable up to 3.6ghz (400FSB) and the ram at 800mhz, posted fine although bit twitchy without messing with voltages....maybe sort that out another time as this was merely an experment to see how far it could go...overall very impressed at being able to even reach a 50% overclock on air cooling ...anyway reset everything back to defaults now.

MOVED: P965 Platinum vs ATI 5770

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=136588.0

Quote from: graner on 18-March-10, 05:02:27
I have the same problem with XFX HD5770 XT 1 GB on my P965 Platinum mainboard. I have tried 1.8 bios and 1.93b with no result.
I have contacted the support and hope for a new bios update. That must be the problem ?
MSI P965 Platinum
Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.2GHz Socket
OCZ Platinum DDR2 PC6400 2048MB
Hiper ATX 580W
And here is the answer from MSI Costumer Service:
Dear Daniel Granér,
Thanks for contacting msi technical support team! Regarding your issue, this mainboard doesn't support ATI 5770 card. So please change other VGA card to use.
Best Regards,
msi technical support team

Help overcloking problem P965 platinum and ballistix tracer

i jut get a new set of curcial ballistix tracer to change my old corsair TWIN2X2048-6400, the problem is that before i could get a stable 3.2 fsb 405 memory ratio 1:1, but now even at 2.8 the pc is unstable, i try to set the memorys at 4-4-4-12 and 5-5-5-15 but it wont boot whit the fsb at 400, if i not overclock i can set it a 4-4-4-12 at 1.9v and work without problem.

try messing with memset http://www.tweakers.fr/memset.html. with that you can change timings in windows, if your system doesnt hang when you apply the timings it should post. i had to do that to correct my timings when i underclocked my memory to achieve a post.

P965 Platinum and Vista x64 RAID config?

Ok, I have looked all over this forum for Vista x64 issues. Nothing even comes close to my problem. When I load Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition onto a clean SATAII drive (single non-RAID drive) I have no problems what-so-ever.
Now here is when it really gets weird. When I run install on a RAID array (2 SATAII Seagate 160GB drives) I see issues in the install. First thing I see is it corrupts the data on the first drive. This causes a blue screen at restart. When I go into the RAID config (ctrl+I) I see the first drive has errors. The only thing I can do is delete the RAID and start over.
When I reinstall Win XP Pro X64 I have no problems at all. I have downloaded the latest drivers from the downloads section and I have tried the newer Intel drivers. Non work!
Computer info:
CPU: Intel 3.4GHz Pentium D x64
MB: MSI P965 Platinum
Storage: 2x Seagate 160GB SATAII
RAID: Intel ICH7R/ICH8R SATA RAID driver 2006-08-29 (and have tried the newer driver from Intel)
If you need more just ask!
Oh yeah, I looked at the specs sheet for the P965. They need to remove the NEC 3550 from the "OK" list since it does not Wright period or READ at install. I went through a big deal with MSI about this and they still have not removed it.

Well sh**! I borrowed a friends Vista x86 and found it to also have the same issue. Would not even load the "Choose Drive" screen or allow me to even install the RAID drivers.
Man when a board gets Vista approved is must not take much. I have had compatibility issues with this board since day one. I think maybe it is time to through it away. What a shame since it is only a few months old.

P965 Platinum and Zalman CNPS9500AT

Hi
I have recently built system with above two components (and dual core 6400)
I can set bios to monitor fan speed and temp (Rpm 2000)
or dual core centre(which does not seem too good) at min fan speed gives (2400rpm)
The processor temp is about 32
Unfortunately the system is noisy and I had hoped it would be silent
I would like to decrease fan speed to 1300 rpm just not sure how to do this
I got cnps9500 because it was supposed to be automatic Perhaps not compatible with P965
I have a zalman fanmate 2 but it is a 3 pin connector
Anybody got any suggestions or help?
Thanks for your time
Richard

Hi everyone
thanks for responses
The Zalman fan has a 4 pin connector it is the fanmate 2 that has 3 pin connector
The zalman fan can be controlled from MSI dual core centre program but this only allows speed in range 2700 to 2200rpm (1 to 7 slowest to fastest)
So the fan can be controlled from software I think I read that a beta version of speedfan might work
At the moment I am thinking of going back to the intel fan that came with the processor!
Thanks again
Richard

P965 Platinum and E6700 CPU Core v ?

Just a question.
What is the default CPU Core V on the P965 Platinum board when you just unpack it first time ?
I just want to know because i just installed my board directly with my new E6700 CPU on without checking the CPU core v first.
I never touched it, but i'm afraid its wrong. Maybe i have to chance it my self for the right setting.
So my question is really. Is the default CPU core v on the P965 Platinum alright for a Core 2 Duo E6700 CPU or should it be chanced
to the CPU the user are using with the board.
Thx

1.265V for mine...

K8N Diamond (MS-7220) and Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2 RAM issues no POST

So a long time ago in a galaxy far far away I built this little beast and it rocked. Initially had some issues getting the memory into dual-channel goodness and determined the RAM was bunk and Corsair RMA'd it. Since then I've setup RAID0+1, SLI'd the video and life has been high performance gaming loveliness (hey, c'mon, all I play is CounterStrike so it works for me).
Now, not so much. Recently when powering up or rebooting, the D-bracket would stop with only #2 lit green, the rest and angry red. The trusty troubleshooters say it is bad RAM. I occasionally had luck reseating the RAM or moving it to the other slot pair, but now it just refuses to budge, at all, regarless of module combos or slots.
I am in the process of RMA'ing the memory a second time, but before I ship it off does anybody have any other suggestions for what I can try? I already tried resetting the BIOS to no avail.

Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 16-August-07, 11:39:07
use 1st two DIMM slots near to CPU socket, remove power cord from the PSU then Clear CMOS again.
try to boot.
if no change test each of memory sticks individually (use 1st DIMM slot) with Memtest86
post back results.
Yeah, tried that. I usually run in slots 1/2... tried swapping modules (put 2 in 1 and 1 in 2), moving both to slots 3/4, swapping 3/4 around, tried individual sticks in 1-4 and all to no avail. Tried resetting BIOS also and still no dice. I think the memory finally gave up the ghost.

Problem with P965 platinum and crucial ballistix tracer 6400

i just buy a new pair of crucial ballistix tracer but they dont work too well with the board, i try to set it at 4-4-4-12-24 but it wont boot, so i have to set it to 4-4-4-12-38 to boot my old corsair were runing at 5-4-4-12-24, i don't know if the boar don't work well with those memorys, any one having this problem?

Quote from: RemusM on 06-May-08, 21:24:24
Aaron is right.
At least for this summer, you should leave them at 5-5-5-15 and 1.85V
Also take care with that E6400 running at 3.2GHz. It won't last long!
The boss needs a vacation: movies, beers, hot chicks and so on.
Remus,
You preach too much! Instead of the CPU lasting ~7-8 years it will last ~4-6. I don't see why you keep a CPU that long...

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try messing with memset http://www.tweakers.fr/memset.html. with that you can change timings in windows, if your system doesnt hang when you apply the timings it should post. i had to do that to correct my timings when i underclocked my memory to achieve a post.

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