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Set the Maxtor hard drive to be a Sata I instead of Sata II hard drive with a jumper. Also make certain that the Sata controllers in Integrated Peripherals-IDE Devices Configuration are enabled.

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Problems with K8N Neo4-F and eVGA 6600GT

Alright, I just built a new PC after my last computer died. The specs:
MSI K8n Neo4-F
Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
1 GB Corsair PC3200 RAM
eVGA GeForce 6600GT (PCI-Express
Antec TruePower 550W PSU
Now, when I turn on the computer it seems to boot up okay, except for the fact that, well, I get no video. However, when I hit delete to enter the BIOS, I do get a picture on the screen - but it's horribly scrambled and I can't make out anything whatsoever. I can tell that it's properly going into BIOS because I can vaguely see the selection bar which moves when I press up/down, but I can't do a thing besides that. I have no realy clue what the problem is, especially since I can't even do a thing yet. I checked to make sure the card and power connectors and everything are properly seated... Could having a 20-pin connector in a 24-pin mobo make it do this? Or is it something far more sinister, like a dead video card?

Bought another PCI-e video card and still doesn't work. Guess the motherboard is bad. Ordered an Asus this time. Disappointed with the lack of help from MSI in troubleshooting/solving the problem. I had to buy a regular PCI video card and two new PCI-e video cards just to see were the problem might be; swap-tronics troubleshooting on my dollar($), that sucks...

Any problems with K8N neo4-FI and Creative X-FI Xtreme Music ???

Hi. Anyone having problems with the mentioned combination. (I've heard about incompatibility issue with creative and nforce4 chipsets) and since I have the mentioned board I would like to avoid future problems and maybe go with Audigy 4 instead. Thanks in advance.

Here's MSIs technical support answer:
Sometimes before, there was incompatibility issues between the X-FI Xtreme card and motherboards based on nforce 4 chipset. And then, Creative official has stated it existed on almost noforce4 motherboard, not only some or one manufacturer, so user met this issue should contact Creative.
But from Creative's official statement as you find, they thought it caused by nforce4 chip, but our motherboard chipset is from NVIDIA. If NVIDIA had no plan to change the chipset architecture, we can't solve this issue. So we suggest you'd better not use this audio card if you use this MB.
Best wishes,
MSI Technical Support
Now when I think about it, I have been using SB live 5.1 for years now and I have changed several platforms (VIA KT 400, Nforce2 (Soltek, Epox), Nforce 3 (soltek) and finaly Nforce 4 and have noticed strange behaviour with many of them in combination with mentioned card (I had to remove additional raid controller card because of skipping video and audio during video capturing on Nforce 2 platform). Now with SB live 5.1 removed, on MSI neo 4-FI it seems that occasional freezing of video on my DVB-T Pinnacle card has gone. I was convinced that the reason was weak reception (although my neighbour from just a few blocks away had excellent picture), but now I am not so shure. I don't know if I want to risk the possibility of repeating all those problems again even if it' "The most powerful audio processor in the world".

MOVED: Overclocking problem with K8N Neo4 Platinum

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
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Quote from: BlackRaven on 27-June-07, 08:58:49
well everything i wrote was based on the guys serial number reading ability. ill live with 2800 mhz. thanks anyway
That's all fine and good, but not always the case. Sure, some batches/runs are better than others, and some weeks of production are just good clockers, but it is hard to tell what ANY chip will do just by looking at the markings on it. Getting 3G on stock vcore would be almost unheard of - unless the chip was made to run at 3G of course. 2800Mhz isn't too bad and exactly what I run on my Brisbane 24/7.
The only real way to know what any chip will do, IMO, is to buy from someone who has abused already tried it

Download Problems with K8N Neo4 Platinum Nvidia Ethernet Controller

Just to ask if there is some basic setup for Nvidia network drivers in Windows or in BIOS since I'm having download errors with a DSL connection when i use the Nvidia networking controller, not depending from the OS I'm booting (WinXP Pro SP2 or WinXP pro 64). When I download using the Marvell Yukon controller everything works fine in both operating systems. Additional specs:
K8N Neo 4 Platinum (latest MSI Nforce4 drivers)
Athlon 64 X2 4200+
2GB Transcend RAM
EVGA 6600 GT 128MB PCI-E
Samsung Spinpoint 200GB SATA (Win XP Pro + SP2)
Samsung Spinpoint 200GB SATA (Win XP Pro 64)
Samsung TS-H522U DVD-RW
Seventeam ST-550EAG 3.3@30A 5.0@30A 12V1 & 12V2 @ 18A each

Quote from: Indigian on 07-November-05, 00:23:35
Open up the nvidia firewall.
Click on 'Active Armour'
Click on 'Application'
change the setting from 'offloadable' to 'notoffloadable'
This solves the download problem.
Indigian, you are The Man!!!!!
That solved it !!! Thank you very much!

Memory frequency problem with K8n Neo4 Platinum

I have 4 banks of memory installed:
2 x 256 GEIL ddr400 Cl2 and 2 x 512 CORSAIR ddr440 cl2.5, total 1.5Gb ram.
They are in dual channel mode, but they run at 100hz and not at 200hz.
If in the bios i set the manual mode for the memory and set 200 hz, than after the reboot they are at 200 hz but in games like wow, css or others the system freezes.
If i let the auto mode for the memory, the system set them at 100 hz and so the problems disappear.
I see the value 100 or 200 hz in the "cell menu->ddr rate". This value is confirmed from cpuz.
How can i set them to 200hz without system freezes?

Quote from: JayBee on 13-December-05, 03:27:53
3 gigs (256x2 + 512x2) is an inherently unstable combination. While the system could boot that way, you are asking the memory controller on the cpu to negotiate too much when it must run one channel at one type of timing and the other channel at an other. Even under the best circumstances, you can boot that way but will fail memtest when system is stressed. Only stable way to use all 4 dimms slots is with 4 identical modules (same size, cas, etc, i.e., same everything). When it comes to mixing sizes like that (2x256 and 2x512), Intel can do it (memory controller is on the board) but AMD cannot (memory controller is on the processor).
Edit- mixing brands (Geil and Corsair) is an other reason why it has to fail. Intel could do it. AMD cannot.
Edit Edit- What 400 Watt psu is that? Note that you need 18 amps on +12 Volt rail minimum for Neo4. Does your psu have that? Just because the label says it, does not make it so. Check what brand it is.
The output at 12V is 18A

Booting problems with K8N Neo4 Platinum

hi
sometimes when i turn on my pc it simply cant boot. ive disabled the full screen msi logo during post to actually get an idea whats wrong. so first it says "main processor:" then "memory testing", it basically counts memory. but when this problem occurs my pc is stuck at the "main processor" text and doesnt continue the booting process. any idea?

Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 02-August-07, 02:07:43
VGA problem, --> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=34535.0
check VGA power cable(if your VGA got it), try with another VGA. could be PSU too.
i already did, but this combination isnt listed in that topic as the rest of the leds here aint red...
so what? vga isnt getting enough power? i connected the two hdd power connector to the vga just like its manual says. "Two hard disk drive power dongles off of seperate power supply cable bundles." what should i check then?
a chieftec 420w should be more than enough for a pc like mine from what ive heard and read. :S

Audio 5.1 problem with K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hi,
First of all, apologize for my bad english (I'm French).
I have a problem similar to aberdeen5...
I recently installed 5.1 speakers on my motherboard, but in Windows, Media Player and PowerDVD I only get sound on the 2 front speakers.
I set 6 speakers in PowerDVD and 5.1 surround speakers in the windows control panel. In the mixer, the sound is on for the six speakers.
I test the speakers with MSI CoreCell and the MSI sound control panel and the 6 speakers work fine...
In dxdiag (DirectX utility), the sound test works only on the front speakers when the software buffer memory is used, but when the test used hardware buffer memory, the sound comes well from the 6 speakers...
I've installed the nVidia unified driver for the nForce4, and the latest Realtek AC97 drivers ( a3.73 WHQL)...
If someone has an idea, or had the same problem and solve it, eventually even with an other motherboard, I thank him very much to help me :-)
Have a good day !

Hi,
Finally I tried what you suggested, but the problem remained.
I desinstalled Realtek drivers and installed manually the last nVidia audio ones, included in the 6.53 release. The sound is better, but in PowerDVD it remains on the 2 front speakers...
Perhaps my version of PowerDVD (OEM 5.0) can't play in 5.1... I will try the Deluxe 6.0 version.
when you use 5.1 speakers, do you here the 'ting' sound onthe 6 speakers when you turn on/down the system sound in the task bar ?
I will reinstall the Terratec in my new config and see the behaviour in Windows and PowerDVD 5, then I will know about it.
I will post a new topic later with the solution if I found something. The posts in "New Nforce audio drivers?" from syar2003 were also useful for me. It's difficult to install the audio drivers and choose between "MCP nvidia" and "audio codec nvidia".
Thanks again for your help.

Problem replacing K8n Neo4 Platinum

Hello everybody, this is my first post here, I am a new member from Italy.
I have this problem:
I own a K8n Neo4 Platinum and when I changed the VGA from Nvidia 6600 GT to 8600 GTS the Mobo doesn't post anymore.. The usb diagnostig bracket says it's a memory problem but when I've put my memory banks on a different PC, they work just fine.
I think the problem was caused by the little space that I had between the VGA and the chipset cooler (Zalman passive);when I installed the VGA I damaged the chipset. Taking a closer look at it I noticed that 1 edge is damaged. I also substituted the Power suplly but the result is always the same.
So I decided to replace the mobo but I don't want to reinstall windows. Finding my same mobo is impossible here in Europe. I only found the K8n Neo4-F.
My question is the following :
-Does this Mobo use the same drivers that were installed on my HD? (latest driver downloaded from Nvidia version 6.86)
-Will I have problems with Windows ?

Massi186,
Moan Guide
Richard

Vista Sound problems with K8N Neo4 SLI Platinum

I wonder if anyone have gotten the sound to work under 32-Bit Vista RC1 (build 5600) on the K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI (MS-7100)? Installation of the, by MSI, provided XP driver (Creative_audio_32-64bit.zip) seam to work, and the device looks installed in Device Manager, but still no sound... Also, the icon for volume control in the icon trey detects that there is no sound card installed.
Anyone with a similar problem? Any solutions? Suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Br
Daniel

Thanks!
I did try one of these drivers before without success. Now when I tried the old driver from nov 2005 it worked!
Drivers are found here:
(http://se.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=1&nRegionFK=&nCountryFK=&nLanguageFK=&sOSName=Windows+Vista+32-bit&region=3&Product_Name=Live%21+24-bit&Product_ID=10315&modelnumber=&driverlang=1033&OS=26&drivertype=1&x=17&y=9)

Strange power-on (issue?) with K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hi all, i have a new K8N Neo4 Platinum, non-sli.
My rig:
A643000+ winch, no overclock
2x512MB Corsair XMS DDR400MHz
2x200GB Seagate mirroring
Plextor PX-708A
BenQ DVD Burner
AN OLD Matrox Mystique 4MB PCI (new pci-e gfx card later...)
A powerfull enermax coolergiant 600W ATX 2.0 power supply
Latest official nforce4 drivers and bios
It seems to be ok: installed winXP pro sp2 and updates, installed two Seagate in raid-mirroring with the nforce4 controller, installed some progs and utils, firewall is ok, prime95 go without problems for 1 our (more tests later), cpu temp is 34°C and sys temp is 30°C.
CoreCenter Say:
Vcore -> 1.41V
3.3V -> 3.39V
+5V -> 5.13V
+12V -> 12.26V
memory volt -> 2.60V
FSB -> 200MHz
PCI-E -> 100MHz
cpu volt -> By-VID
Apparently no weird things...
When i switch-on the Pc, for some seconds( ̃10 secs) it don't want to boot, optical drives blink repeatly and the screen is blank, like a bad overclock... But the machine isn't overclocked, and the bios is ok, i think. After 10 secs, finally it go and run flawlessly, post and other things are ok. When i reboot in win, the 10secs-issue repeat itself. So this strange thing at the post is normal? Anyone with the same "problem"? For now the rig is ok when it logon in winXP...

Hi all my friends
@JER101 >>> Ehrr i mean post, sorry
I had unplugged the optical drives, but the problem persist. When plugged, they blink for some times and after blinking the machine go into post-phase and after it boot in the correct manner. I think the PCI card is the problem, like some of you said... I will buy one pci-e card (obviously), but i hope things are not dangerous for now
In the mean time, i have a new problem: emule+firewall=BSOD. I know, there are tons of post about this issue around, but the solution is unclear... Tried to disable DEP, patched WinXP SP2 with latest things from winupdate, but nothing work for me, emule and the firewall generate a crash&reboot. Tried with the Marvell LAN, too, without success.
Any suggestions? Usefull links? If i uninstall the "NVIDIA Forceware Network Access Manager" it will work without problem with a thirdy part firewall, like sysgate?
P.S.
What's the problem with nvidia drivers? C'mon nvidia, solve this damned issue!

Firewire/1394 devices are not auto-detected with k8n neo4 platinum

I am unable to detect firewire/1394 devices to my PC through my K8N Neo4 Platinum. That is, I plug in the device through the firewire port and windows doesn't detect that a device has been plugged in.
I have tried:
-2 firewire devices, both are Canon digital camcorders (ZR10 and ZR25MC)
-2 different firewire cables
-reinstalling windows, got all windows updates except
(Microsoft Base Smart Card Cryptographic Service Provider Package: x86 (KB909520))
-patch from microsoft, discussed here
(https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=81749.0)
-both firewire devices using both cables connect just fine to a test computer
-both my computer and the test computer have Windows XP Pro SP2
Windows doesn't make the noise "bah-dum" that it has detected a device, nor does it display the dialog that gives me options of what programs to use. Once in a while, if I leave it connected for a while and come back, windows will eventually find it...or windows might bog down and get really slow. It speeds up again instantly once I unplug the firewire device. Strange, I know. Also there are NO conflicts in device manager.
Could it be?:
-bios misconfiguration
-need to use an older chipset driver (i am using most recent from nvidia.com)
-onboard audio or front audio needs to be disabled
-the k8n neo4 platinum simply has connection problems with some firewire devices
(i hope not)
Bob

Built2Last: (good questions!)
I tried your suggestion by removing PCI cards and made FURTHER progress. I found out that my firewire card, the Syba NEC1394-P3, has some compatibility issues with my other PCI cards. I found this out because:
1. it worked fine after I placed it in a non-comm (orange) slot and removed my soundcard (X-Fi) and Belkin wireless modem, and
2. a tech support representative from Syba told me that that particular firewire card has compatibility issues
Quote
Also, SD-NEC-4F is our older model firewire card.
Our new firewire card (SD-PCI-4F) is using VIA VT6306 chipset and no customer complain about any installation issue so far.
If the SD-NEC-4F still giving you trouble, I'll suggest you to return it and exchange for the SD-PCI-4F firewire card.
At least he is honest and wants to help, so I remain impartial towards Syba.
So I figured out the firewire card, but not the onboard firewire. Ok, but check this out! When the Syba card was working, I could plug in BOTH the external hard drive AND either of the Canon camcorders to the Syba firewire card. Windows all three devices just fine. Again, the onboard firewire would ONLY detect JUST the external hard drive, but would not detect either of the Canon camcorders. It seems as though the ball again is knocked back into MSI's court on this issue. Any ideas?
syar2003:
As for drivers, I checked for drivers for: onboard firewire, add-in firewire card, and Canon camcorders.
-I cannot find where there is an MSI firewire driver for my onboard firewire port. I originally guess that it was part of my chipset driver installer, but the README doesn't say anything about it. It is also not an additional download on MSI's website. But since it detects an external hard drive I figure I must already have it.
-The add-in firewire card does not have drivers. I repeat, they do not exist. The manual and Syba's website both state that drivers for the card are included all versions of Windows back to Windows 98.
-Canon's website has a driver/software download page but it also appears that drivers do not exist for the Canon camcorders.
Yes the camcorder is set to VCR mode.
Yes the IEEE1394 is correctly installed, since external hard drive connects okay.
I tried two DV cables and both are connected fine.
The camcorders do not support USB as far as I can see, and if they do, I'm not using it.

K8N NEO4 Platinum and PCIE Clock

I have K8N NEO4 Platinum, AMD FX55, 2X512 Crucial Ballistix PC4200, PowerColor X850XT VIVO, 3X74 HD WD Raptor.
I have a big problem with this motherboard and Video card.
I have set CPU clock at 250mhz (because I have DDR500), now the PCE clock is 100mhz. Is synchronous with CPU clock? If yes is there a moltiplicator to change the PCIE clock(my videocard is 400mhz), because It provokes artefacts in the Post , in the bios,and continues shutdown of the system( first appears the windows “VPU RECOVER”, than shutdown) and the visualization is full of artefacts.
The question is: Pcie clock is asynchronous or synchronous with CPU Clock, when is disable spectrum in cellmenu?

I have K8N NEO4 Platinum, AMD FX55, 2X512 Crucial Ballistix PC4200, PowerColor X850XT VIVO, 3X74 HD WD Raptor.
The question is: Pcie clock is asynchronous or synchronous with CPU Clock, when is disable spectrum in cellmenu?

IDE cables bundled with K8N Neo4 Platinum--80 wire or 40 wire?

Is the rounded IDE cable that comes with the K8N Neo4 Platinum (non-SLI) mobo an 80 wire or 40 wire cable? How can one tell?
I think I may be having some UDMA issues with my second hard drive (120GB Barracuda 7200.7 IDE). I installed XP on my SATA drive with no other drives connected and then added this IDE drive.
The rest of my setup is in my sig.
Thanks!
Bruce

OK. I checked my device manager for the info on my IDE drive. I looked at the properties of NVIDIA nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller.
Primary Channel:
HD Model # is ST3120026A. The drive set up as Ultra DMA 5 - Ultra 100. Checked boxes are "Let BIOS select transfer mode, Enable read caching, and Enable write caching. I did a speed test from Windows and it shows Theoretical limit of 100, Burst speed of 86.3 and Sustained speed of 58.1.
Secondary Channel:
DVD: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A. Transfer mode is Ultra DMA2 - Ultra 33. This is using a flat ribbon cable from an older computer. The only box checked is "Let BIOS select transfer mode".
Do these both look OK or do I need to change something?
Then I looked at the properties of NVIDIA nForce4 ADMA Controller and found:
My SATA drive (my boot drive) is HD model # ST3160812AS. Transfer mode is PIO Mode. Boxes checked are "Enable read caching, Enable write caching, and Enable command queuing. There is a yellow triangle that says "Transfer mode downgraded". I can't do a speed test.
What do I need to do to operate in Serial ATA Generation 2 - 3G? This is how this drive is supposed to operate.
Thanks!
Bruce

Building system for friend with K8N Neo4 Platinum

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice (ADA3200CGBOX)
CT2KIT12864Z40B (2x1GB)
eVGA 256-P2-N516 (7800GT)
WD2500KS (250GB SATAII HDD)
ATXA9N-SS/500 (Case)
Aspire 120MM
Aspire 80MM
ND-3550A (DVD-RW)
TG-480-U22 (PSU)
Can anyone recommend BIOS and drivers I should preload to a CD? I would rather not install from retail CDs only to download new ones.
Are there any other concerns or things I should know of?
Thanks!

Quote from: Kwea on 10-January-06, 23:21:38
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice (ADA3200CGBOX)
CT2KIT12864Z40B (2x1GB)
eVGA 256-P2-N516 (7800GT)
WD2500KS (250GB SATAII HDD)
ATXA9N-SS/500 (Case)
Aspire 120MM
Aspire 80MM
ND-3550A (DVD-RW)
TG-480-U22 (PSU)
Can anyone recommend BIOS and drivers I should preload to a CD? I would rather not install from retail CDs only to download new ones.
Are there any other concerns or things I should know of?
Thanks!
You can use CD drivers (if needed to get connected to net) and update. because of the item on CD will be out dated
I'am using V1.09 BIOS, Nforce 666, GFX 7772 works good for me

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