MOVED: Q6600 overclock with MSI p965 neo 2
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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=133826.0
Quote from: skxprive on 25-December-09, 22:27:48
Thats right, as 10acjed said
(2x) 1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400Mhz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333Mhz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266Mhz )
I can also choose 800 Mhz like the picture of his, but the adjusted dram frequency differs and 800 will result in like ~999.
Btw the dram Mhz is on generally on [auto], but that is the same as 800.
So I set it to 667, So the adjusted dram freq will be around 830.
that could be your problem right there. Is that when you are running at 300 FSB??
Try it at 533 and see what happens... If it is at 830 when set to 667 and you try and raise the cpu higher its also raising the ram higher, probably causing an issue..
I am still pretty sure you are hitting a wall with that board, its just not a great overclocking board. I am extremely disappointed with my NEO-F as far as overclocking goes. But its been running stable for about 3 years now so its a good board....
If all else fails run it at 300 - 320 (as high as you can get stable) and put the ram at 667 so it runs around 830, ou will have a nice moderate OC...
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Q6600 overclock with MSI p965 neo 2
Hi,
I would love to overclock my q6600 from 2.4 to 3.0 Ghz.
I've bought a new cooler and placed it.
Specs:
Q6600 , 2 Gb ram, nvidia 9800 GT, 500GB.
Motherboard:
MSI p965 neo2 (MS-7235 v2)
Software: Windows 7
The bios isn't very easy. It isn't possible to adjust everything.
Help pls. I installed a new cpu cooler and it should reach 3.0
Thanks in Advance.!
ps: I posted also here http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/631489-q6600-overclock-msi-p965-neo-2-a.html#post7949152Quote from: skxprive on 25-December-09, 22:27:48
Thats right, as 10acjed said
(2x) 1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400Mhz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333Mhz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266Mhz )
I can also choose 800 Mhz like the picture of his, but the adjusted dram frequency differs and 800 will result in like ~999.
Btw the dram Mhz is on generally on [auto], but that is the same as 800.
So I set it to 667, So the adjusted dram freq will be around 830.
that could be your problem right there. Is that when you are running at 300 FSB??
Try it at 533 and see what happens... If it is at 830 when set to 667 and you try and raise the cpu higher its also raising the ram higher, probably causing an issue..
I am still pretty sure you are hitting a wall with that board, its just not a great overclocking board. I am extremely disappointed with my NEO-F as far as overclocking goes. But its been running stable for about 3 years now so its a good board....
If all else fails run it at 300 - 320 (as high as you can get stable) and put the ram at 667 so it runs around 830, ou will have a nice moderate OC... -
MSI P965 Neo-F Motherboard w/ Antec 450W SmartPower 2.0
Does this power supply work with MSI P965 Neo-F motherboard?
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=26450
THANKS!Yes, it will.
It also depends on the hardwares that you are going to setup together with the system.
I would prefer you to get this http://www.antec.com/specs/TPII480_spe.html -
MSI P965 Neo-F reboot problems
Hi,
I have a MSI P965 Neo-F motherboard in my PC, everything works great except for one thing, rebooting.
When i reboot or reset, it shuts down the operating system/BIOS, after that the PC stays on but my screen stays black.
Does anyone know a solution?
Thank you,
ghostrider090
full specs:
Core 2 Duo E6600 (overclocked to 3GHz)
MSI P965 Neo-F
2x Kingston Value Ram PC5300 1GB
Club3D Geforce 7950GT 512MB
Huntkey 450W (modded with coolermaster fan)
Samsung SH-S182D
2x Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB 8MBI dont know solution ...
i see the problem in mobo or revision of P965 itself ... there is many problems with restarts, reboots, first boot. It depend on version of BIOS you have, but i not found any version which solve this for me ...
i using v1.9 now ... and i have problem with boot after hybernation with vista..
after turning my computer off (in vista is normal to hybernate and shut down) i can boot my computer .. by its very strange. So, power comes up, but then instantly comes Windows Vista with logon screen - NO posting by BIOS, no RAID initial screen, no scaning for hardware... it comes instantly to windows - but windows are in some inconsistent state and i cant login (freeze/BSOD ... but pointer can be moved by mouse and login button shows efect if i move pointer over - so windows are in memory and working) ... in this state is HDD led all time ON (shining) ... i can shut down and boot up again and everything is OK (windows are normaly restored from disk)
with older v1.5 BIOS ... my computer goes to same state like is described here - BLANK ... and BIOS setting was reseted
so and here is one similiar problem
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=100524.0
and one my thread .. its particly about this
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107722.40 -
MSI P965 Neo PCI-e lock?
Hi!
could any of you tell me whether or not the MSI P965 Neo-F board has an option to lock the PCI-e clock?
My plan is to tweak the FSB to 333 (which implicates a 333/266 = 25% overclock), which I've read is more then easy to obtain with a Core 2 Duo 6300. I just don't wanna ruin the rest of the system by getting a PCI-e busspeed of 125.
So I'm really curious if this board has either a build-in lock @ 100/101, or some option in the BIOS to lock the bus.
Thanks!well you could just try raising your fsb to 333Mhz and see what happens. done it with mine no problems at all no other tweeking either. lots n lots of people have done the same without a problem.
check out the overclocking and modding forum here, n see for yourself. -
Overclocking E4300 using P965 NEO
Hi Fellas. Finally, got this system running and here are my experiences, so far:
1) This board is soooo limited, the maximum FSB which is there in the BIOS is 265MHz.
2) No TRUE 1:1 FSB/RAM ratio because the lowest RAM speed it supports is 266MHz while the CPU is stuck at 200MHz (800 strap).
Managed an overclock of 250MHz so far (2.25GHz haven't tried more).
The best part is that I was able to O/C HIGHER on an INTEL (946GZIS) board where I got this chip to 2.4GHz using Clockgen! haha can you beat that? I hope they can do something with the BIOS, otherwise this is sucky-sucky. I hope MSI realizes that the E4300 is one of THE best chips to overclock and that this board doesn't do it much justice.
In the meantime, would appreciate it if others using a similar configuration could share their experiences too.
Thanks.I too bought an e4300 together with a P965 Neo. Same results here: absolute limit of 250mhz FSB.
So I mailed MSI support.. and they sent me a bios update: the still unreleased 1.7. So I flashed the bios, hoping it would fix the problem.
But no. Nothing. Not even a minor change. I guess they haven't fixed the strap issue that EagleDM is talking about.
So I went back to the store, and found out that changing my MoBo is difficult and costly. Has to do with vista or something. I'm no expert.
To tell you the truth... I might even consider changing it anyway. I've read reviews of ppl overclocking the e4300 past 3ghz. And I'm stuck at 2.2. Even with my brand new Zalman CNSP9500 cooler, which I regret buying now. Stressed CPU temps below 40c are not exactly optimal imho.
So don't get your hopes up for the 1.7 bios upgrade, guys. I'm very sorry to have to tell you this.
*edit* Mmm by upping some voltages (RAM) I was able to get past the wall of 250. got it to 265mhz fsb now. Orthos has been running for some time now on blended test.. I have no idea wether or not it was the update, or my own noobness. Anyway, I'm not even gonna try getting past 265 now. I'm way to happy for another bios reset. I guess you guys just have to bug MSI for 1.7 and try it out yourselves :-) -
MSI P965 Neo-F (MS-7235) problem booting from USB flash drive
Hi, all!
I was wondering if someone can help me. I am trying to install Windows 7 x64 on my 320GB HDD that is connected to my MSI P965 Neo-F (MS-7235) mobo (The CPU is a Core2Duo 6600 with 6GB of RAM). I created a bootable USB 8GB flash drive using Microsoft's "Windows 7 DVD USB Download Tool" and bootsect.exe (Needed to create a boot sector on the USB drive) from the MS store. I successfully tested the resulting bootable USB drive using freeware MobaLiveCD (Sorry, you'll have to Google "mobalivecd" since this forum doesn't seem to allow external links) running under Windows XP SP3 x86 (32bit). Under MobaLive's QEMU, Windows 7 setup loaded its files and produced an error message basically saying that it could not install Windows 7 x64 under an x86 OS (No surprise there since QEMU is emulating a 32bit processor - The point is that the bootable USB drive I created works).
I then went into my mobo's CMOS and under Advanced BIOS Features -> Boot Sequence -> 1st Boot Device, set the value to "USB-HDD" and rebooted my machine. The USB drive probably was not detected by the mobo under that setting because it proceeded to boot from my HDD which is the 2nd Boot Device. I repeated the same process using each one of the four USB ports in the rear of the mobo (I don't have the optional USB panel that the MSI users manual mentions) to no avail. I also tried setting the 1st Boot Device to "USB-FDD" and repeated the process for each USB port but the mobo still will not boot from the USB drive (It does not recognize it). When I set the 1st Boot Device to "USB-ZIP" and rebooted, the mobo hangs after "Verifying DMI Pool Data ..." which is no surprise since I am not using a USB ZIP drive but a USB flash drive. It appears that under that setting, it recognizes that there is a USB device attached but it is expecting a response (From a USB ZIP drive). I had no idea it would be this frustrating to boot from a USB flash drive! If anyone knows how to make this mobo boot from a USB flash drive, please let me know. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Quote from: RemusM on 12-June-14, 17:51:30
The P965 Neo motherboard is 8 years old, so don't expect miracles. .... You need to format the USB stick in the proper way. You may use this utility to do it: hxxp://www.prime-expert.com/flashboot/ Also, it's a good idea to use the first (USB0) connector (controlled by Intel ICH8) for the USB flash drive. Good luck.
Thank You for your fast response, RemusM!
I'm not looking for a miracle. I'm just looking for a mobo that does what it is supposed to do: Allow me to boot from a USB flash drive (I don't think that is too much to ask for even from a board that was made in 2006)!
Thanks for recommending FlashBoot. I see under their "Why FlashBoot" section that it "... does not shift to user the burden of choice between "USB-ZIP" and "USB-HDD" at format time and proper BIOS setup at boot time. ... and every USB disk is formatted in such way that it will work in every environment properly, regardless of current BIOS setting.", so I will give it a try and let you know about the results afterwards. -
Default problems with msi p35 neo 2
pc works fine when using windows and the net and emails
only when using 3d mark or games do i ever get problems
just help in getting the hole story 6 months ago got a msi neo2 install all my old components core 2 duo 4 gig ram form a diffrent board works fine but never used it playing games just used for the net and email shoping seamed to work fine but
tryed playing a game 2 months later command and conquer 3 pc was some times freeze or graphics artefacts on screen assumed vga card faulty got another graphics card geforce 8600gts installed still the same in the last month got round to playing with the pc again and installed new g7 780 watt power supply and ati hd 4870 graphics card
now i can use 3d mark some times it will go through once or just freeze or 3d mark stops the test
temps on the board (from msi dual core center temps cpu 33oc system 47oc)
memory voltage 2.1
any one know the settings for the ram
more details you need
System Details
MotherboardEdit Value
msi p35 neo2 fr
Motherboard BIOSEdit Value
latest
CPUEdit Value
core 2 quad 6600
CPU Overclock SpeedEdit Value
none
CPU HeatsinkEdit Value
standard intel that come with cpu
CPU Idle TempEdit Value
N/A
CPU Load TempEdit Value
N/A
MemoryEdit Value
******* xms2 2x2 gb ddr2 part no cm2x2048 6400c4dmx
Memory VoltageEdit Value
N/A
Video Card(s)Edit Value
ati hd4870
Video Card SpeedEdit Value
N/A
Sound CardEdit Value
onboard
PSUEdit Value
g7 780 watt power extreme
Hard Drive(s)Edit Value
mator dimondmax 21
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N/A
Other CoolingEdit Value
3 80mm fans 1 frount 1 back 1 side
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N/A
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******* xms2 2x2 gb ddr2 part no cm2x2048 6400c4dmx
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memory voltage 2.1
Make sure that the memory timings are not set to 4-4-4-x but that they are set to the defaults values (5-5-5-x). Also ensure, that the memory clock speed is not set to anything higher than 400 MHz (=DDR2-800). The voltage at these settings should not need to exceed 1.95V. So please lower it accordingly. In case the freezes still occure, please run memtest86+ to check your memory for errors.
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msi dual core center
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MSI P965 Neo board failure ?
I have the P965 Neo board running perfect for two years, for a few weeks ago the system didn't startup, a long beep sound came from the MB. I opened the case, checked connectors etc. and replaced the memory modules. After that the system runs ok, no problem occurs for almost three weeks.
For a few days ago, out of the blue, the system didn't startup: error message: "WARNING Have option ROM can not be invoke (Vendor ID: 10Ech, Device ID:8167h)"
I reset the system and it passes the POST, the WINDOWS XP splash screen shows up but after a few seconds the blue progress bar stops.
I reset the system again and now the WINDOWS XP splash screen stays fade out, no progress bar
I reset the system several times, after a few times the system normally boots up and is ok.
I tested the HD with Speedfan Smart utility and it is found ok. Also no virus etc is found. I checked the device manager, no driver problems.
Yesterday the system had the same problems (XP boot blue progress bar stops, sometimes the progress is very slow) but after a few restarts the system boots normal and is ok.
Tonight, after I had opened the case to measure the voltages, I startup the system but no problem occurs. The 12V and 5V are ok
I think I have a hardware problem but I'm doubt what hardware (MB,RAM,PSU,processor) causing this kind of problems.
Can you help me ?
thanks,
Herman
My system:
MSI P965 Neo-F
Intel Core2Duo E6400
XFX Geforce 7600GS
DIMM 2x1GB DDR2/533 Nanya
XP SP3
BIOS W7235 IMS V1.5
Quote from: NovJoe on 03-July-09, 21:57:34
Clear CMOS and try booting the system again.
Was the system like this from Day 1 or this only happens after something has been done?
Thks NovJoe ....
The system had run without any problem for more than 2 years.
I presume I have a connection problem on the MOBO or other hardware. If I place the PC case in the cabinet under my desk, the problem occurs. If I have the PC on the floor there is not any problem. It also happens only when the PC is cold.
I asked my hardware supplier, he suggested to test the hardware with a special self booting hardware test CD. It will cost 40 euro. I searched for such a CD on internet but didn't find one special for MSI boards. Do you know where I can get such a CD ?
regards,
Herman -
MSI P965 Neo-F mobo and ASUS EAH4850/HTDI 512MB
Hi I have the MSI P965 neo-f motherboard and I am interested in buying a new graphic card for my computer. But I am concerned about compatibility issues of my motherboard with different graphics cards. Currently I am interested in buying the ASUS EAH4850/HTDI 512MB graphic. Does anybody knows if my motherboard will work with this card? Did someone had any issues.
Thanks in advance,
phanospHi NovJoe,
Thanks for the reply. As far I can tell the card is backward compatible with PCI-E 1.0. I just wanted to ask if someone has actually used this card with my mobo to make sure that there are no compatibility issues.
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phanosp -
MSI P965 Neo-F + DDRII 800 TwinX (2x512mb) issue
Hi, ive recently built a new system a couple of days ago and im having a few issues with it... i 'presume' it may have something to do with ram/mobo compatability.
Heres my system, no oc'ing:
MSI P965 Neo-F
1Gb (2X512Mb) Corsair TwinX DDR2 PC6400 (800) @ 5-5-5-18 1.85V (mobo default)
480W power supply
The issue seems to be that during boot up the system loads into windows XP then after about 20-30 secs the system will reboot itself for no reason (no event log), then it kinda has a set of mini reboot fits during POST.
After the system has settled down it will boot into windows XP fine and i have no further issues at all... it runs all my games/apps perfectly.
Can anyone shed any more light on this issue ?first, stop the board from auto-rebooting, by going to Control Panel , System Properties, Advanced, Startup and Recovery, uncheck "Automatically restart". See what the bluescreen error code is. That would help a bit.
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MSI P965 Neo and Noctua NH-U12F or Scythe Infinity 1000
I'm running MSI P965 Neo as the title says and now when I've began O/C:ing I need a better cooler than the Intel Stock Fan for my E6600. Anyone knows if you can fit a Noctua NH-U12F or Scythe Infinity 1000 without any space problems on this motherboard?
Quote from: Maesus on 24-January-07, 00:20:07
I like massive fan because it's very quiet!
And cheaper I'll go with infinity! -
MSI P965 Neo-F Bios doesnt recognize my DVD RW driver,Help!
Hi,
I just bought a MSi P965 Neo-F motherboard and when i boot the pc because bios cant find the DVD driver and
i cant start my windows xp 64.
I thought og upgrading bios but i cant because i dont have floppy driver and my cd drive is unknown for bios.
DVD model: NEC DVD RW ND 3540 A
system info:
Maxtor 120gb
Duo core 2 E6400 2.13
Corsar 1024 DDr II 2X512
Asus PhysicX
Gforce7800GT 256
Help!
plz..Quote from: Zimbower on 14-February-07, 18:50:18
Hi,
yes i do get the green message about the dvd in green color after the memory check(MSI logo)
somthing like ODD0 DVD RW
I will try the second option you recommended,thx alot.
Hello, welcome to forum. if you are planing to update BIOS:
get P965 Neo BIOS ver. 1.6 CD Image (have modded boot record and integrate JMB361 Dos drivers.)
How do i flash it?
Extract image file from archive, and burn it to CD.(example: open it with nero burning rom and burn image file to CD)
Make and ensure PC is stable, then reboot PC and boot from CD. you will need to confirm twice BIOS update when asked.
after BIOS update is complete successfully, power down your PC, remove power cord from the PSU, hit few time power button to drain electrify from capacitors, touch some metal with hands to discharge any ES which you may have, then open the case and Clear CMOS then pull back power cord, and turn on your PC, will be notice CMOS CHEKSUM MISMATCH/ERROR, hit F1 to continue to rebuild DMI Pool Data, then reboot your PC, and enter in BIOS and LOAD BIOS DEFAULT, SAVE AND EXIT, go back to BIOS and apply your customs settings.
if you want to use USB key to flash BIOS, copy AWFL865.EXE & W7235IMS.160 to USB drive, reboot PC and boot from bootable location, (hold "SHIFT" key when starting loading from bootable device to bypass startup files to avoid loading memory managers and other applications) navigate to folder which containt flash program and BIOS file and type from there:
AWFL865.EXE W7235IMS.160 /cks/sn/py/cc/cd/cp/wb/ld/qi/f/e -
MSI P965 Neo-F Sata & IDE presentation (& boot options)
hi,
I have purchased a MSI P965 Neo F motherboard.
http://www.msicomputer.co.uk/Product...3735&cat_id=77
I have flashed the bios to the lastest 1.18 revision.
If you look at this board, you'll find it has 5 SATA ports.
- 1 SATAII port by JMicron JMB361.
- 4 SATAII ports by ICH8.
Questions:
1.) The machine only appears to be able to boot from the 1 jmicron sata port.
2.) within the bios any disks plugged into the board on the other 4 ports show up as "ide" disks, this could be wording or this could be some cheap bus trickHi, thanks for responding,
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no wrong with "ide", as SATA ports on ICH8 are detected as IDE devices, (as opposed to detected as SCSI device).
could you clarify this, I think its just the "no wrong" line, what do you mean by this.
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No, the machine is able to boot from any JMicron port, including PATA port.
there is only 1 jmicron sata port, so my initial comment was aimed at you can only boot from this 1 sata port - not the other 4 ich8 ports, I assume thats correct from your comment. -
Benchmarks: Dynamic Overclocking on the P965 Neo-F is a big lie!
I've just upgraded to the 1.5 BIOS and decided to run some benchmarks. What I found was interesting, so I thought I'd share:
I set the DOC function to General, which should give a 15% boost to the FSB when the processor is under heavy load. I wanted to see how much that will improve CPU performance compared to when DOC is disableled.
To test I transcoded an album from the lossless APE format to mp3 using Monkey's Audio and Lame 3.96. I chose this software because it reliably maxes out both of my cores, since Monkey's Audio can be set to do two separate encoding tasks simultaneously: one on each core. Lame itself is assembler optimized to use the processor's fancy vector extensions, ensuring a really maximal CPU load. The command line options I used in Lame are: -V 2 -q 0 --lowpass 19.4 --cwlimit 10.7 --scale 0.99 -mj -b96
Here are the results for my system (E6300, P965 Neo-F BIOS 1.5, GeForce 7600GT):
Standard FSB Clock (266 MHz)
DOC: Disabeled
10:35.17 min
Standard FSB Clock (266 MHz)
DOC: General
12:01.45 min
Slight FSB Overclock (280 MHz)
DOC: Disabeled
10:05.15 min
Slight FSB Overclock (280 MHz)
DOC: General
10:05.39 min
To confirm these results I ran 3DMark05 at the default settings with the FSB set at 280. My scores: 5637 with DOC disabeled, 5628 with DOC on General (+15%).
In other words, Dynamic Overclocking on the P965 Neo-F is hopelessly broken. It doesn't actually improve performance and sometimes it seriously damages it! Can anyone confirm that this is so?My test results:
Dynamic Overclocking actually UNDERCLOCKS your CPU under load!
But it's more copmlicated still: I just did a lot of testing on my E6300 / Neo-F and here are my numbers:
FSB
DOC Setting
CPU Freq. at idle
CPU Freq. under load
266
Disabled
1863
1863
266
Private
1863
1507
266
Captain
1863
1566
266
General
1863
1625
267
Disabled
1871
1871
267
Private
1871
1909
267
General
1871
2061
310
General
2176
2062
325
General
2281
2090
333
Disabled
2331
2331
333
Private
2331
2331
333
General
2331
2331
The most shocking thing about the numbers is that at 266FSB, DOC actually underclocks your CPU just when you need it most. This also beautifully explains the performance results I got above. But if you look carefully, DOC seems to work just as it's supposed to when you bump the FSB to 267. Higher than that, though, I haven't found a frequency at which it works correctly. Generally, it underclocks, and underclocks more the lower the "rank" is that you choose. The exception to this is 333, where DOC seems to neither overclock nor underclock.
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