MOVED: What cooler for K7N2G-l & Sempron 2800?

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=74102.0

ginolard,
I have been recommending the Thermaltake Polo 735 since it can be used with the K7, K8, and PIV. That way when you upgrade in the future, you can use the Heatsink on your next CPU.
Take Care,
Richard

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Nazwa kodowa   Thoroughbred-B
Seria   B0
CPUID: nazwa procesora   AMD Sempron(tm) 2800+
CPUID: nr wydania   00000681h
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Mnożnik procesora   12.0x
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Magistrala pamięci   167.01 MHz
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Pamięć podręczna L1 kodu   64 KB
Pamięć podręczna L1 danych   64 KB
Pamięć podręczna L2   256 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)
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Taktowanie pamięci   2.5-3-3-7 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR)   1T
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Data BIOS'u wideo   02/12/07
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Komputer
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Dodatek service pack systemu operacyjnego   Dodatek Service Pack 2
DirectX   4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
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Nazwa płyty głównej   MSI K7N2 (MS-6570) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 ACR, 3 DDR DIMM, Audio)
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Pamięć fizyczna   1024 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
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Port komunikacyjny   Port komunikacyjny (COM2)
Port komunikacyjny   Port drukarki (LPT1)
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Napęd dysków optycznych   LITE-ON LTR-24102B (24x/10x/40x CD-RW)
Napęd dysków optycznych   TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M
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Mysz   A4Tech PS/2 Port Mouse
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Kontroler USB1   nVIDIA MCP2 - OHCI USB Controller
Kontroler USB1   nVIDIA MCP2 - OHCI USB Controller
Kontroler USB2   nVIDIA MCP2 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
Urządzenie USB   Masowe urządzenie magazynujące USB
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Informacja z BIOS'u Award   W6570NMS V4.1 080204 13:14:21
DMI: numer wersji BIOS'u   6.00 PG
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Nazwa płyty głównej   MSI K7N2 Series
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Procesor   52 °C (126 °F)
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+5 V   5.13 V
+12 V   12.22 V
-12 V   -12.36 V
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+5 V podczas wstrzymania pracy   4.99 V
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Debug Info T   42 52 06
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