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Quote from: Svet on 29-August-11, 06:16:20
What CPU you use?
Did you ever read the link?
"Only the Extreme Edition allows the user to change these values at will, effectively circumventing the protection mechanism altogether."
My motherboard supported 1155 socket based CPU. I use i7-2600K. This link tells us about 1366 socket based CPU, which have extreme editions CPU. But I mean, that in my motherboard not provided or blocking power and current limits protection in BIOS:
Checkboxes can not modified in Windows, but his also can not modified in BIOS!

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Z68A-GD65 Turbo Power Limits

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Quote from: Svet on 29-August-11, 06:16:20
What CPU you use?
Did you ever read the link?
"Only the Extreme Edition allows the user to change these values at will, effectively circumventing the protection mechanism altogether."
My motherboard supported 1155 socket based CPU. I use i7-2600K. This link tells us about 1366 socket based CPU, which have extreme editions CPU. But I mean, that in my motherboard not provided or blocking power and current limits protection in BIOS:
Checkboxes can not modified in Windows, but his also can not modified in BIOS!

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Quote from: say0n on 07-November-13, 04:19:18
I just got an ASUS R9280X-DC2T-3GD5 but i doesn't give me any signal in my monitor. Im using the DVI port and the Motherboard is Z68A-GD65 (B3)
Im running an old HD6870 with no issues but in the moment o switch the cards it doesn't give me any image and there's no POST.
i5 2500k at 4.3ghz
Z68A-GD65 (B3)
The card was already tested with the seller and it works fine so is not the card... please help i don't want to spend more money to change my platform to 1150 socket.
I bet the seller didn't test the card in a PCI-E 2.0 "environment".
Z68, i5-2500K are PCI-E 2.0 (HD6870 is PCI-E 2.1)
AMD Radeon R9 280X is PCI-E 3.0
Many AMD PCI-E 3.0 graphic cards have backward compatibility issues.
That's why I always recommend Nvidia cards for older motherboards and processors.
If your motherboard BIOS is up to date, the next thing to try is to update the VBIOS
(ask the seller if you cannot do it by yourself).
If that doesn't fix the problem, you have 2 options:
- replace the card with a Nvidia one
- keep the card, but replace the processor with a Gen3 one (3770K, 3570K, etc)

MOVED: Z68A-GD65 G3 OC Genie 2

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CPU Features Subsection
Active Processor Cores [All]
Limit CPUID Maximum [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel Virtualisation Tech [Disabled]
Intel VT-D Tech [Disabled]
Power Technology [Custom]
C1E Support [Enabled]
Overspeed Protection [Disabled]
Intel C-State [Enabled]
Package C State Limit [No Limit]
Long Duration Power Limit (W) 200
Long Duration Maintained (ms) 2500
Long Duration Power Limit (W) 250
Primary plane turbo power limit 0
1-Core Ratio Limit 40
2-Core Ratio Limit 40
3-Core Ratio Limit 40
4-Core Ratio Limit 40
Set Phase Control to APS.
Overclocking Section
CPU Base Frequency [10kHz] [10000]
Adjust CPU Ratio [40]
Adjust CPU Ratio in OS [Disabled]
Internal PLL Overvoltage [Enabled]
EIST [Enabled]
Intel Turbo Boost [Disabled]
DRAM Frequency [DDR3-1333 or Auto]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) [Disabled]
DRAM Timing Mode [Auto]
Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
VDroop Control [Low]
CPU Core Voltage [Auto]
CPU I/O Voltage [Auto]
DRAM Voltage [Auto]
System Agent Voltage (SA) [Auto]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
PCH 1.05 [Auto]
DDR_VREF_CA_A [Auto]
DDR_VREF_CA_B [Auto]
DDR_VREF_DA_A [Auto]
DDR_VREF_DA_B [Auto]

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Hi Froggy,
Thanks for all the suggestions, really appreciate it.
I think I must have been updating my signature when you viewed the post if it wasn't showing up. I am getting by on integrated graphics for the time being so could I OC that a little too? The memory is Samsung Green DDR3 2 x 4GB but I've not re OC'd it yet whilst trying to ensure the CPU OC is stable first.
I found an old screenshot from my OC on BIOS v10.5 where I had the Spread Spectrum disabled so I think that has been the main thing causing instability this time around at achieving 4.4GHz on BIOS v10.6. I've not used the Enhanced Turbo before so am not sure what that does, am coming from a very old non msi motherboard that used an Intel 440GX chipset. Is the Enhanced Turbo the feature that OC's just the one core? I've implemented some of these changes that I've highlighted in green and been running P95 for around 4 hours without any bsod, or threads in error. CPU-Z mainly shows a core voltage of 1.176 or 1.184 and my temps on the hottest cores have maxed at 60c. Will it be possible to go any higher than 4.4 but still retain the power saving of throttling back to 1.6GHz on idle?
Disable EuP 2013
Change Internal PLL to 'Enabled'
Enhanced Turbo to 'Enabled'
Disable 'Spread Spectrum'
Try VDroop at 100%
Digital Comp Level change from 'Auto'
Core Expander change from 'Default'
Leave Core Switch as is
Change I/O to 1.07
SA to 0.970
PLL to 1.82-1.84
PCH 1.055-1.061
C-State either 'Disabled' or if want to keep it, change package limit to 'No Limit'
Long 'D' (W) change to 250
LD Maintain (s) to 60
Short D (W) to 250
Primary (A) leave alone
Secondary (A) to 60
Primary Turbo (W) to 250
Secondary Turbo (W) to 250
Other notes; I always 'Disable' C-State, and 'Enable' C1E Support when doing a Turbo OC with EIST to take full advantage of those power saving features they provide.

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Quote from: Bernhard on 30-December-11, 00:22:38
I am not running your PSU down, don't get me wrong. You have the best PSU by general consensus. All I am suggesting is to check it in another system under similar OC conditions with approx the same specs.
It does fine with SLI non OC, yet when you add the extra load of OC, and that can be an additonal 50 to 100W, then the PC becomes problematic.
It could be something else, but one has to start eliminating potential culprits.
Edit: Did you install Virtu ? If so, have you tried deleting it again for a test ?
Oh I understand completely and thank you for your suggestion and time, it helps me to believe that it could be my PSU even more, I am borrowing a PSU from a friend and a PSU tester from work and tonight will get a chance to do some full testing on the PSU.
If that tests out ok I will pull my PSU out and RMA it. hopefully Corsair will have a quick turn around.
Virtu isn't installed, I will double check but it was disabled in BIOS, but i have reset my BIOS so many times I will make sure it still is.
I will report back with my findings.

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Quote from: JLio01 on 29-January-15, 13:54:12
What does ME version show under BIOS currently? When you check the ratio under OS, do you put your system under loading? And did you re-install driver from website after updating BIOS?
http://www.msi.com/support/mb/Z68AGD65_G3.html#support_download
ME version 8.1.2.1318. Even if I put the system at 100% load in Windows, the processor never moves past 3.4 GHz. I've checked this in multiple programs (CPUZ, RealTemp, TMonitor, etc.) And yes, I reinstalled the drivers that were listed under the BIOS update.
Quote from: TZBC on 29-January-15, 14:17:52
Go to OC section and change to advanced mode, change your CPU Ratio Mode from Dynamic to Fixed mode.
And go to windows checking the ratio have changed or not.
EDIT: sorry, I forgot this motherboard doesn't have this settings, try Disabled or Enable "Adjust CPU Ratio in OS"
I've tried changing that setting (Adjust CPU Ratio in OS) but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
However, I just noticed that I didn't have the newest version of CPUZ. I updated it and now it shows more detailed information for the multiplier: x34 (16-44)
So it is detecting that I have set it to 44 in Windows after all. But it seems to be indicating that it's using a dynamic CPU ratio of 16-44 - which I don't want, I want it fixed at 44 - but as you say, there's no option for dynamic/fixed on my motherboard. However, on the old v23.7 BIOS, if I set it to 44 it stayed at 44 always.
Even if it's using a dynamic ratio for some reason, it's not doing that right either because it's still never moving past 3.4 GHz (nor is it ever dropping below 3.4 GHz).

MSI Z68A-GD65 G3 Power On after Ac Power loss how to turn it off?

Hi,
I want my computer to stay off when the power go down. But it is automatically powering on after Ac power loss even though I set in BIOS to stay off. Any ideas? Happened twice already.
SPECS:
i5 2500k
MSI Z68 ZD65 BIOS v23.6
Antec 400W Seasonic S12-II based PSU
Power On After Ac Power Loss Option in bios is "OFF"
Thanks.

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Restore after AC Power Loss
This item specifies whether your system will reboot after a power failure or interrupt
occurs. Settings are:
[Power Off] Always leaves the computer in the power off state.
[Power On] Always leaves the computer in the power on state.
[Last State] Restore the system to the status before power failure or interrupt
occurred.
If you have this properly configured as you indicate in your post, try a full cmos clear and set it back and to re-test.
If that is of no help, what bios version do you have installed?

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My brother also managed to drop the CPU on the kitchen floor. There is no damage to it, that I can see, but just wondered if this could cause any problems. I should point out that it fell on its "back", so no damage to the pins.
The CPU does not have pins, it only has the contact pads. The pins are oart of the CPU socket on the board. So I am a bit perplexed that you are mentioning potential pin damage ?
The best at this stage is to see if someone has a 1155 socket CPU that you can test on your board to verify if the CPU was indeed damaged internally from the fall. You could also take the CPU to your local PC store and ask them to test it for you. It is unlikely that it would have been damaged by a fall, but depending on the impact it is not impossible that the silicon wafer inside has shifted ever so slightly and that may be the casue of a short.
Have it tested first.

Power on-off-on Problems with New Build Z68A-GD65(G3)

I'm hoping someone has seen these issues and can help me, although I realize this is a vague issue. I'm working on a new build. On power up everything looks good but then I get a power off and back on (like a reset). Sometimes it happens very quickly; other times it will stay on for roughly 5-10 minutes before the reset. I've checked all the connectors, case wires look ok, BIOS info looks correct.
The other issue is that when I tried to do the Win 7 install, it loads the files, goes to the "Starting Windows" screen, and freezes there (until the next power off problem shuts things down).
Any ideas on what to try to narrow things down? Seems like it almost has to be the power supply or motherboard?

Quote from: Henry on 28-October-11, 09:54:40
You have more than a Z68A-GD65(G3), please list he rest of your components. See my signature below for example of what to list.
>> Posting Guide <<
I've disconnected everything but the mouse, keyboard and monitor and still have the power resets.
Tried one memory module at a time... still fails.
Played with lower memory freq settings... still fails.
Finally pulled the MB out, bench tested it to rule out shorting in the case; tried it with and without other peripherals... still fails.
I think I'll RMA the MB, although I suppose it could be the psu (unlikely, I'd think).
I had two bad motherboards in my last build. I had hope that MSI would be better...

Overclock core i5 2500K with MSI Z68A-GD65 B3 [Help]

Hello
I have updated the bios of my motherboard Z68A-GD65 B3 with the lastest version
the OC menu has new options and my OC don't go above 4.2Ghz
there are some screenshot
Spread Spectrum=Disable
CPU PLL Voltage=1.65
Execute Disable bit=Enable
Intel virtualization tech=Enable
Power technology= Energy Efficient
C1E support= enable
Overspeed protection=disable
core ratios=45
what would you recomend me set in Long duration power, maintained, short duration etc?
because the OC only goes to 4.2Ghz.

Quote from: Sea Dog on 06-August-14, 05:18:10
With the CPU Core Ratios in CPU Features back to Auto or their default, set the Adjust CPU Ratio to 43X at first just to test it for POST completion, OS loading and stability. Turbo and Enhanced Turbo could be set to disabled. Internal PLL to enabled. Try VDroop in Auto or it's other available setting. CPU PLL to 1.82v's - 1.84v's, EuP 2013, Spread Spectrum, and Overspeed Protection keep disabled. Reset the CPU Features power and duration limits back up to the previous settings as discussed.
As you said, there is a problem with the BIOS version. I tried to overclock with CPU Ratio method, unsatisfactorily. setting the CPU Ratio at 40 the system fail.
I recently tried with OC Genie Button, but the Frecuency doesn't go above 3.7Ghz, but the CPU Ratio Limit is set in 42.
you can see the picture.

Z68a gd65 g3, i2600k help please

Trying to iron out bugs, I have bounced between throttling, or mem errors reported from IBT or Memtest.
Cured mem errors from memtest (was failing test 3 and 5) with a dram voltage bump.
Cant seem to get this stable for IBT, and it should be cakewalk, assuming nothing is fried.
Pwr Supply : XFX Black Edition 850w
MB : Z68A GD65 G3
CPU : i2600k
RAM : 2 x 4GB Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 (8-8-8-24-2T stuff)
CPU HSF : Venomous X, 2 x 108cfm fans in push pull
GFX Cards : 2 x evga gtx 470 w/Vantec hsf on both cards (have not begun to mess with gfx oc this build)
Goals : 4ghz 24/7 stable lowest temps possible under load, HT on, and go from there.
Considering in a HAF 922, and CPU HSF is decent, I had expected eventually to get to 4.4 and stay under 65c, somewhere around 1.3 vcore tops. I cant even get 4g stable. I have read some other threads here and tried settings, but not getting there on my own. Please help meh

I had not tried the auto oc yet, I will give it a try.
I have been experimenting with the 2 newer bios files posted on msi site, not quite getting there.
How is the auto oc feature with respect to voltages, and will it allow turbo/speedstep to function ?
Just got done setting up for a family member, with a 2500k, on a <competitor> <<-self censor z68 board, using c9 gskill and a downdraft style cpu fan.
No trouble at all to get it running @ 4ghz, full load using 1.21vcore, and it stays 55-57 w one oddball core hitting 61.
Of course, big differences are 999 vs 888 ram, 2 2gb sticks vs my 2 4gb, and I have HT. I did have to set manual vcore "fixed 1.22" on that setup, since it would run fine on "auto" voltage for cpu, but that board gave it ludicrous vcore on auto, well over 1.35, and of course allowing vdroop meant too low.
For oc genie, do you refer to button on mb, or the bios tab ? I have not messed with either. As long as temps are ok and voltages are not crazy on the auto oc, 4.2 would do nicely for the time being, until i can find more info. I would like to make sure all is well and stable, before I try popping in SSD I have sitting here. I do not want to go through trouble of fresh install, etc, just to realize im borked anyhow due to not understanding the sandybridge, or some quirk of bios/ram/etc etc.
Thanks for the quick reply! Ill try it out, and keep reading what I find here
edit: i have not yet tried relaxing ram timings or running it at 1333, could that be the issue ? Id rather keep 888, than 1600 mhz, if i had to choose
edit #2 - Specifics on what I think is "wrong" : 1) Prime 95 Blend - CPUZ shows consistent 40x multi, Prime 95 Inplace large FFT (max power heat test) shows throttling down as far as 35x, never seen any system do that to me. 2) No errors in memtest but IBT crashes on 3rd run, set at 8 threads, custom 2560mb test
Just realized I did not completely clean off remnants of previous manufacturers MB (also z68, but doa ram channel A), I could see that causing instability, but not throttling. Still I feel like a tool for not wiping the OS partition and going clean, so ill be doing that immediately. Please in the mean time, toss me the tips, or a link to the "read this ya nub" thread :P.

Z68a GD65 Gen 3 - ME8 to ME7 while keeping 25.6 possible ?

Hello,
I've currently updated my BIOS from 23.7 to 25.6 because I saw that it would fix my issues with my K90 keyboard. Unfortunately now, I cannot overclock. I would prefer to keep the updated BIOS since it supports my keyboard but, by reading the forums here, I have to downgrade from ME8 to ME7. At the moment, I'm having lots of difficulty doing so...
System specs
2500k
Z68A GD65 Gen 3 BIOS v25.6
16 GB (4x4GB) G.Skill F3-12800-4GBSR2 DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 2T @ 1.35V
MSI Lightning GTX 560 Ti
Seasonic X-760
Corsair K90 Keyboard
Dell U2713HM monitor
Intel 320 120GB SSD + 2x500GB Seagate 7200RPM
Thanks in advance!

Here are some overclocking issues that I have encountered with 25.6
Pre-upgraded BIOS (23.7), I used the following guide for information on overclocking my 2500k ; http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265056-29-2600k-2500k-overclocking-guide. I appreciated this guide because it was detailed, used almost the same MB as me (p67-GD65), same processor and it's from a reputable site.
With 25.6, this guide does not work. Anytime you try to disable overspeed protection, turbo boost, or Power Technology, overlocking does not work (CPU-Z says multiplier is at 33 while Windows says 43).
A part from that, if I don't touch those options, I can overclock quite easily. I have my 2500k @ 4.3GHz, 1.3V after a 24 hour Prime95 run (blend test). Max temp was 61 C, average around 55 C.
So is the previous guide I was using still valid and the issues are with the overspeed protection, turbo boost, or Power Technology... or is it now functionning properly ?
Ders

Z68A-GD65 Hangs in UEFI *Help wanted*

Hi there! im new to this forum.
I just bought myself an Z68A-GD65, and first thing i noticed was the bios revision was really old, so i updated to the latest version.
Now i wanted to try some overclocking, i went into bios and upped the multiplier and the voltage, pressed save and exit and UEFI froze, however, the temperatures were still monitoring and updating on the side?? but i couldnt do anything. Had to shut down PC on the button.
I went into UEFI again after reset and i see the changes did not apply, so i load defaults, press save and exit, and UEFI froze again, now i cannot save and exit at all.
What should i do? reflash ? something is obviously wrong....
Help plz
EDIT: It seems the problem was the new N7 bios, i flashed to the older N4 and now it works just fine.
The motheboard came with N2.

Quote from: HU16E on 01-May-12, 19:16:09
What does the DRAM V. 'Read Only' voltage read? Might try to set it manually to 1.521v and see if that helps. To really be of help, a full listing of all your systems components will be helpful in troubleshooting. It would also make it a bit easier if the settings you have are listed too. The sub section 'CPU Features' has some settings that can cause problems if not set right as well as in the Eco Section. EuP 2013 should be disabled for example.
I always changed the DRAM Voltage to 1.652 volts, and set the speed with XMP (1600mhz).
My system specs:
Intel i5 2500k
8gb Kingston HyperX 1600mhz CL9 1.65v
MSI Z68A-GD65 (now flashed to the latest bios again)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 470
Corsair VX550W powersupply.
Creative X-FI xtreme gamer soundcard.
D-link DWA-556 xtreme wireless network card.
Razer Naga molten edition mouse.
Logitech Ultra X flat keyboard.
I am trying to troubleshoot this problem now, step by step, im changing 1 thing in UEFI, save and exit, booting into windows, rebooting and changing 1 thing again.
Its gonna take some time, but hopefully i can find whats causing the UEFI freeze.
Here is the steps i took immidietly before:
1. Changed the boot order to SSD first, enabled hot swap on sata port1(recommended by MSI according to the site), rest disabled.
2. Changed to AHCI
3. Disabled onboard LAN and External SATA 6gb/s
4. Changed to XMP and manually set DRAM voltage to 1.652v.
5. Saved and exited.
6. Went into windows, rebooted, changed 1 random setting (didnt matter what) and UEFI freeze upon pressing "Save and Exit"
Clear CMOS > Solved problem, i now can change the settings again, until i find whatever is it from that list that is causing the UEFI to freeze.
Question: what is Eco mode and standard mode? im always changing the settings in Standard mode.
EDIT: The problem seems to be related to the "Advanced Settings" section in the UEFI, which includes the settings : to disabling the onboard LAN + external sata 6gb/s and changing the boot order and enabling hot swap.
The problem is in other words related to the onboard lan disable, external sata 6gb/s, changing boot order or enabling hot swap on sata port1. So i left those 4 things at default and it appears its working now since i have now rebooted and saved & exited bios many times since i decided to narrow this problem down.
I have now successfully done the following to help out with the OC:
Disabled: EIST, Speedstep, Turbo boost, EuP2013, C-state, Overspeed protection, C1E Support, Power technology, Spread Sectrum.
Enabled: Internal PLL Overvolt and XMP profile.
Manually: Set memory voltage to 1.652v, CPU voltage to 1.325v (doin OCCT linpack right now, seems stable so far)
Using BCLK: 100.2 (10010 in bios) to compensate up from 99.8mhz.
Will get back soon.
EDIT2: BSOD after 50mins OCCT at 4.5ghz 1.325v, backed off the BCLK increase from 100.2 to default 99.8, and upped volts to 1.330v, if its stable, im backing off volts to 1.325 again and running again.
Also tried to disable onboard LAN, disable serial port, UEFI still functions properly. It seems the problem is caused by enabling Hot Swap.
Question: what should i put PLL volt on?

K7T Turbo-R Limited Edition

Ok fellas, here's my question.
I'll try to include as much info as possible here.
I have the K7T Turbo-R Limited Edition version 3.0A (at least that's what the users manual says). It's a Red Motherboard and has 2 IDE Controllers. I simply want to know what is the fastest processor I am able to run in this board? Also, I was looking at the BIOS updates and noticed that some have footnotes regarding the Turbo2. So what is the latest BIOS Update that I would use for this particular board? Please pardon my ignorance here. My hopes here are that these are softball questions for you guys.

Thanks a bunch BAS!
Would this be the processor you're talking about? http://store.yahoo.com/directron/xp153.html
I found this online. Also, what would be the BIOS update I would use? I was looking at several posts last night and saw that the Power Supply is going to be a very important issue here. The case I have purchased comes with a 320W PS but I noticed when I was reading that 320W doesn't always mean 320W ?( . I appreciate all the help you guys offer here! Thanks again BAS! :P

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