Moving Down from the Red Epic

Moving down from the Red Epic (65K) full kit to the Scarlet (to the Panasonic?) on down to the $4500 range, what are the best camcorders available in a progressive downward price range.  Four or five models you think are a great value.
I personally like the older Panasonic cameras except for the scatterbrained format and in some models the faux 1920 x 1080 resolution.  Suggestions welcome for other brands.
Thanks

Chuck, merry xmas.. I made this video for you and your better half just now...
Earlier today I went to store during beginning of snow storm ( before it got too bad to go anywhere in my old car ). I did some whacky driving in very slippery conditions ( rear end fishtailing a few times to keep my speed up and not get stuck and balancing that with being somewhat "safe" on the road ).
I did get stuck on the hill leading to my parking lot and had to do some backward and forward gentle moving to finally get unstuck and get into my spot... which is now my spot for the next 2 days probably... so I bought plenty of beers when I was out. Go Vikings! Go Giants !
This page ( a secret link ).. was hard to do cause I haven't done it in like 7 months or so..the video on my own server junk.
Basically I had to export the video from 1920x1080 to 720x405 as FLV from my mousey computer and CS3 ( I'm using mov 264 source to cineform avi in cs3 ). If I wanted to have higher res for faster bandwidths I'd have to put links on the webpage to those other options more or less... and to be honest, nothing is fast enough to do full HD without buffering a lot first... so I don't know if it's worth it. My personal feeling is that it's not worth it. Too many people would have to stop the video, wait for the buffer, and then restart.. and in the end the only decent play would be the 2nd one...after you already have it downloaded.
Anyway, this is my cougar sled which is now parked after an exciting ride to stores... and now it's YOUR turn to post something from your new camera that has me drooling. This camera is the olympus TG1 cheapo thing that is real good for bad weather and shooting " visual reminders " of stuff... like when you go scouting for locations etc..use this thing..is very good for that. Can take into rain, snow, drop it on ground, it doesn't mind...even underwater !
http://rodneybauer.com/whiteboard7.htm
happy holidays you guys !

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