Moving Elements in Layer Groups

I need feedback as to how to move elements around within layer groups. I always organize my psd files by setting up lots of layer groups. I've noticed that with CS3, that I am unable to move just one layer within a group without everything in the group moving. For example, If I have a group and within that group I have a text layer, and other layers with various elements, If I want to move the type, everything goes with it even though I haven't linked them altogether. Am I missing something? I don't remember this with earlier versions. It is driving m crazy. Is there a preference I have to set? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Is your Move Tool option set to Auto-Select: Group? Change it to Auto-Select: Layer.
Or just turn it off to disable any Auto-Select..

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? on moving items within layer groups

i am having trouble using layer groups. I have a layer group named Group 1 with 5 layers in it. Each layer contains 1 image. I'm unable to move 1 layer to center the image without all the other layers taking on the same position.Even if they aren't turned on, or selected. The only layer selected and turned on is the layer i want to move the image.
I don't have a lock on. Even if i turn off the other layers, once i turn them on again, poof - they all position incorrectly.
How can I turn off this glue type action from happeing?
Thanks!
Marley

I've never seen anything like the behaviour you are describing.
The only things that will cause layers to move together are the following conditions…
selecting multiple layers in the panel
Linking them as mentioned before (see the small link incon at the bottom of your layers panel)
highlighting and moving a group. This means using the move tool when a layer GROUP is highlighted not an individual layer
Your screen shot impies that none of this is happening. Reset your photoshop preferences by holding command option shift while launching the application.

PSE 10 Can't edit read-only layer groups (a.k.a. I just want to make a custom DVD menu in Elements)

A little background: I wanted to make a custom menu so I opened a copy of one of the canned menu.PSD files in PS Elements 10. It opened up with all layers and their sublayers showing. So far, so good. I did a bunch of editting and had my menu just about right, saved it and burned a DVD with it. I saw some corrections that I needed to make so I opened the same .PSD file and it showed all the main layers (with the folder icon) but not the attached layers.
I double-clicked to open these layers and got:
"You are attempting to open a group, which is not supported in Photoshop Elements. The layers in this group will be simplified into a single layer. Simplify the layers? Yes No."
I was just editing these things the day before yesterday. All I've done since then is register my software online. I have seen it stated in this forum that "Elements doesn't support layer group/sets" but it was referring to an earlier version I'm guessing.
Question 1: Is this still true of PSE 10?
Question 2: If so, how was I editing them the other day?
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
Joe

If you haven't uninstalled premiere elements then it should work, but there are a few things that will not work when editing the dvd templates:
(it only works on certain dvd templates and only on a machine with premiere elements installed)
*If you change the document dimensions either larger or smaller. (not the size of the elements in the template but the overall size such as using
Image>Resize>Image Size or Canvas Size)
*If you delete any of the layer groups
*Changing the name of the document
There are probably other causes and they may know more on the premiere elements forum:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere_elements?view=discussions
MTSTUNER

Moving a layer group should not incure a performance hit (init a set of layers vs recursive)

I have finally taken the time to understand the behavior of the slughish performance of moving layer groups.
On my computer in CS6:
1. If I have just 2 layers in a layer group. Selecting both of them and ctrl-dragging them around is smooth and responsive.
2. If you have however select the layer group which contains just these 2 layers, the performance is obviously and terribly impacted. The drag is slow and choppy. With just 2 it is unbearable with regards to workflow but with a large layer group the performance it is utterly unusable. I am now looking to test what occurs in older versions.
I am a programmer. Not only that, I am a programmer who regularly targets 16 milliseconds on the scene and model graph. Learn to code and learn to program with hitting a 16ms user experience. That means abstraction culling to perform a minimum number of operations for a feature vs inertia, not the logically beautiful and sound abstractions we all would love to have on infinite computation. That's the reality of performance optimization. Performance optimization should be refered to as abstraction culling because that's what it is.
It should not make any logical difference how a set of layers is initilized for a transform. Please initialize the arrayed set of layers from the hierarchy of groups instead of executing your obviously flawed and unoptimized recursive routine.

I'm just not seeing a difference in performance between dragging a single layer around, multiple individually selected layers together, or a whole group of layers (where the group is what's selected in the Layers panel).
I tested on both Photoshop CS6 and CC. I'm on Windows 8.1. And I can honestly say I've never seen the layers panel scroll slowly.
That's not to say I'm seeing instantaneous, smooth moves of layer data - with a sufficiently large image, the update rate goes down to where the frame rate of moving things is quite visible - e.g., 4 or 5 frames per second - but that's still interactive, and it has always been like this with Photoshop as far back as I can remember. If anything, moving data around has gotten a bit snappier in Photoshop CC.
You may well have something specific going wrong on your system, or with your particular document.
Why not post a copy of a specific test image on which you can reproduce the issue, and that you'd like others to test with. I'll be happy to drag layers and groups around in it and report back.
That reminds me, I need to get software installed to capture my desktop as a video, as I need to make a training video soon.
-Noel

Secret editable layer groups in photoshop elements.

Layer groups being opened and manipulated,
just like in photoshop.

Another way of testing a recorded action or testing any action
before installing one in photoshop elements. With this script
you can load one action set or ten or more action sets for
testing. Also an action can be set to run more than once in a
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Can't move all the elements in a group together.

Hello,
I'm trying to do a very basic thing here. I would like to just put all the elements in my bicycle drawing in a group, and then move it left to right. I know how to move it and animate it, and I thought I knew how to put all the elements in the group - but when I try to move it, as you can see by the attached pictures, it strips the frame from the wheels. Everything in the drawing is in a group.
The only thing that might be causing trouble is that each wheel is its own group and they are animated with the "spin" behavior. So it will look like the bike is moving and the wheels are turning. But both "wheel" groups are in the bike group, so shouldn't it all move together?
Thanks for any help.
Johnny

Sorry it hasn't worked out for you. I threw together a simple project that uses rectangles to represent your Bike and wheel groups. They all animate across the canvas in the bike group and the wheels rotate. I have attached screen shots so you can see how they are constructed.
This image showsthe bike group where the orange rectangle and green circle represent the frame. The white rectangles represent wheels and the green and red rectangles I threw in to represent a wheel that has multiple objects in its group as your wheels do.
Here the animation across the screen has started and notice all wheels rotating and staying with the frame.
Again a little further down the timeline.
I put this one in so you could see the group bounding box around the red and green wheel Good luck with your restart on this project and I hope these screen shots are helpful.

5 Reasons to Use Layer Groups in Photoshop | The Complete Picture with Julieanne Kost | Adobe TV

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Selecting group and moving it works if Auto Select > Layer in options bar is not checked. I am often have this problem because usually Auto Select Layer is checked what is very useful to move layers around.

Need help translating PS Bloom Tutorial to Elements 8 ~ layer mask

http://photoshoptutorials.ws/photoshop-tutorials/photo-effects/bloom.html
I'm having difficulting translating this PS tutorial into Elements. Could someone familar with elements please take a look at the tutorial and offer guidance?
Thanks in advance!
Credo

Yes, see if the following gives the results your looking for:
1. Steps 1 and 2 are the same.
2. The part where it says add layer mask, click on the background layer and
    add an levels adjustment layer. (Layer>New Adjustment Layer>Levels) Click on layer 1 and select group with previous.
    (Layer>Group with Previous or Add Clipping Mask)
3. Steps 3 and 4, instead of apply image, click the eye icon on the levels layer to make
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Click on the background layer and then do a select all, copy. (Select>All) then (Edit>Copy)
   Alt-click the levels mask and paste (Edit>Paste) (a grayscale image will be pasted into the mask).
   Deselect (Select>Deselect).
4. Step 5 is the same.
5. Steps 6 and 7, click on layer 1 to make it visible and then click the levels layer mask
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6. Step 8 is the same.
Hope this helps.
MTSTUNER

What to do to add some UI elements in a group element on click of a button?

I want to add Input fields and labels in the a group in a view on click of a button.
How to :
1)Access the right gropu in view through code?
2)Create elements in the group through code?
Please reply soon!
Sumit

You need a flag to signal that the elements should be added with the next call to wdDoModifyView().
Add a boolean context attribute "AddFields" to the view context and set it to true in the action handler for the button:
void onActionAddFields(...)
wdContext.currentContextElement().setAddFields(true);
In method wdDoModifyView(), check the flag and reset it after the code that adds the fields:
(I assume the group has a MatrixLayout)
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    IWDMatrixData fieldLayoutData = field.createLayoutData(IWDMatrixData.class);
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    field.bindValue("context.attribute.path");
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Armin

Photoshop CC 2014 hangs for nearly 15 seconds when using Layer Group Layers or Layer Palette Group from Layers commands.

Photoshop hangs for nearly 15 seconds when using Layer > Group Layers or Layer Palette > Group from Layers commands. NOT on creating new group and creating layers and drag-n-dropping layers into group manually in Layer Palette. Got a UI design file with nearly 800 layers and lot of groups. This doesn't occur in smaller files. Using OS X Mavericks, Photoshop CC 2014.2.2, Mid 2014 15-inch Retina Macbook Pro.
I understand that the solution would be just to cut the file into smaller files and design each UI view in a separate file but that would be painful. And it does not seem to be a very hard task to just group layers.

Does the document also have a lot of layer comps?
And can you post that document or send me a copy of it so we can see exactly why it is hanging?

Importing layer groups from photoshop to flash cs4

Hi everyone,
I have about 5 layer groups in Photoshop and in each of the groups/folders there are some layers with some text and other layers with isolated images and also layers with some layer styles. When I import this file into Flash I need each of the layer groups to be imported as a flattened bitmap image. I don't want any of the text to be editable or to have any of the layer styles intact. So if there are 5 layer groups in Photoshop, I just need five bitmap images in flash. I've tried doing this but it still imports the layers separately. I know I can flatten the groups in Photoshop but I want to keep this file editable.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Appreciate any help.

Harry Kunz wrote:
Then why not flatten it (BUT not save it) and import it into flash THEN revert the photoshop file (CTRL+Z) so it will still be editable version?
Yeah I know that's an option but I just thought there might be a quicker way, but maybe not.
Thanks for the suggestion though.

Is there a way to add an element to a group in Captivate 7?

Hello,
I would like to add an element to a group without ungrouping the original group and regrouping the group again with the new element. The reason is is that all of my groups are part of advanced actions, and once you ungroup something, it "falls" out of the advanced action, and you can't name the new group by the same name...(Even though the group technically doesnt exist anymore, Captivate tells you that the name is already being used...)
Any help would be great!
Ryan

I have highlighted the group and ctrl+Click the new element, so both are highlighted, and hit group again. It always kept the same group name and simply incorporated the new element at the top of that group. Could then move anywhere within the group you desired.

Layer group blending modes

There was some discussion about defaulting layer groups blending mode being normal by default instead of pass through. While I do use a lot of smart objects as "normal" containers (albeit mostly to filter rather than blend), I'm interested in techniques which would make normal a more useful default. Any thoughts?

OK... Here's my 2 cents. I use layer sets (layer groups) often in color correction work. Some times to get color where you want it, you may need to use 2 or 3 adjustment layers. For instance a Hue Saturation layer and a Curve layer. rather tan masking both of them, I put them into a layer set, and make one mask at the set level. This is helpful if later you need to extend the correction to include additional areas... all you need to do is modify one mask. In this situation, the layer set has to be set to pass through in order to affect pixels below it.
Now, lets say I grabbed a head from a different image, to add a person to the image I started with. If the head requires brightening and color adjustments to make it match the existing image, I find it a little neater to place the head layer in a layer set, then all the adjustment layers can go inside the set with it. But I need the blend mode of this set to be normal, so that the effects of the adjustment layers within it do not continue past the set level. Make sense?
I realize that you can link the adjustments to the layer you intend to affect, but I find the method I described to just be a little neater as far as layer management. AND if I then need to paint in hair for the head layer and paint in some eye enhancements, I can do each on its own layer inside the set. Sometimes I'll make the blend mode of the layer set for the head (just to stick with the same example) normal then put all my color adjustment layers inside a sub set with a blend mode of pass through. Then I can mask the CC layer set to only CC the eyes let's say, and I can mask the head layer set separately to blend it into the scene.
I hope all that helps. :^)

Layer group visibility toggle

With the help of this forum I obtained a script which toggles the visibility of a specific layer without selecting the layer.
I would like to find out if the same functionality can be achieved for a layer group.
In other words can script toggle the visibility of a layer group with out actually selecting the layer group?
I understand some parts of Photoshop are not scriptable and wan to make sure this isn't one of them before I embark in creating the script.

I have a script that does what you need. Can't remember if I obtained it from here, but I do know that the scripting guys in here are geniuses and can help you out with almost anything. That said, here is the script that you need. All you need to do is replace the three "Insert Layer Name Here" portions with the name of the layer you wish to toggle on/off. Don't thank me, thank whoever wrote it, (most likely someone here)
var targetID = getLayerIDByName('Insert Layer Name here');
if(undefined != targetID){
    if(getLayerVisibilityByID( targetID ) ){
        hideByName('Insert Layer Name here');
    }else{
        showByName('Insert Layer Name here');
function getLayerIDByName(name) {
    try{
    var ref = new ActionReference();
    ref.putProperty( charIDToTypeID("Prpr") , charIDToTypeID( "LyrI" ));
    ref.putName( charIDToTypeID( "Lyr " ), name );
    return executeActionGet(ref).getInteger(charIDToTypeID( "LyrI" ));
    }catch(e){}
function getLayerVisibilityByID( id ) {
    var ref = new ActionReference();
    ref.putProperty( charIDToTypeID("Prpr") , charIDToTypeID( "Vsbl" ));
    ref.putIdentifier( charIDToTypeID( "Lyr " ), id );
    return executeActionGet(ref).getBoolean(charIDToTypeID( "Vsbl" ));
function hideByName(name) {
    var desc = new ActionDescriptor();
        var list = new ActionList();
            var ref = new ActionReference();
            ref.putName( charIDToTypeID('Lyr '), name );
        list.putReference( ref );
    desc.putList( charIDToTypeID('null'), list );
    executeAction( charIDToTypeID('Hd '), desc, DialogModes.NO );
function showByName(name) {
    var desc = new ActionDescriptor();
        var list = new ActionList();
            var ref = new ActionReference();
            ref.putName( charIDToTypeID('Lyr '), name );
        list.putReference( ref );
    desc.putList( charIDToTypeID('null'), list );
    executeAction( charIDToTypeID('Shw '), desc, DialogModes.NO );
EDIT- whoops, I just realized this is only for layers, not groups. But hopefully it's a starting point

[BUG]PS CC Layer Group add vector mask and disable it,use path selection tool click,always crash!!!

[Bug] Photoshop CC，Layer Group add vector mask and disable it, use path selection tool click canvas, always crash!!! Please help me!
The sample psd file(158KB):
http://doc.aoyea.com/ps_cc_bug.psd
My Computer configuration:
SONY VAIO CA100 Notebook、Intel Core I5 2410 CPU、16GB RAM、AMD Radeon 6600M(1G RAM)、Windows7 x64 SP1(clean)、Scratch disk free space is 100GB
email: [email protected]

Hi,
As far as i know that's a bug that will hopefully be fixed in the next update to photoshop cc.

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