Moving EXS samples to separate drive

I purchased a firewire drive on which to store my EXS samples. I copied two folders to the new drive: EXS Factory Samples and Sampler Instruments. I then made aliases of these two folders and dropped them into the original folders on my MacBook's hard drive. So now when I attempt to choose a sample in the EXS, I see the alias and can choose a sound from it. Okee dokee. Works fine.
However, I didn't trash the original files from the computer's hard drive after I copied them to the new drive. Actually, I tried but was asked to "Authenticate" this decision. I assume that typing my password will allow me to trash the files, but I thought better of it and decided to ask here first. Is there a problem with trashing these files?
Thanks

hi,
after checking all files have been moved properly, yes you can delete the originals.
the reason you need to sign of on them is they are in the administrator domain, not the user.
DR9.

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Can I do this by copying the files to the second drive and placing alieses in the original folder?
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KEVIN, Major Tom
I'll go you one better:
Here is what I do. I have 2 identical Logic7 systems at home AND at work. Keeping plug-in presets, channel-strip settings etc synch'd on both sytems is a major pain....soooooo (you'll love this)
1) go to :User/Library/ApplicationSupport...Take the folder called "Logic" and copy that to your external drive.
2) Make an alias of the "Logic" folder in ApplicationSupport.
3) Delete the "real" Logic folder in ApplicationSupport
4) Rename the "Logic alias" folder, to "Logic"
that's it.......now, not only do your samples/instruments reside on an external drive, but so do plug-in presets,channelstrips, templates....everything.
For all you professional guys/gals with homestudio and work studios. This is it! totally worx.
I mean how often does it happen that you're at the home-studio.....got this great riff, but you can't load that one channel-strip that resides on the computer at work ?!
It suddenly dawned on me that if I can make an alias of EXSsamples folder, than why not the whole Logic folder? It worx ......So now I have this firewire drive that i take home at night, and the "Logic" folder lives on that. (naturally I have a back-up).....If you don't load Gigs of samples per session (us orchestral guys do), you could actually keep your "Logic" folder on a USB Keychain/Dongle drive, or on one of those new NanoPods...how tech is that;-)
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Hello all
I am moving to Macbook Pro (previous gen) with Logic Studio after years of PC (feel like I’m standing on the edge of a precipice staring anxiously down!). Will be looking to use it live in our 3-piece band to run existing MIDI Files and live triggered BFD drum samples
Have decided on getting an Echo AudioFire 8 to handle the necessary Audio outs and MIDI connections and will be replacing our rather dated Korg 05R/W General MIDI module with virtual instruments / samples libraries
I am thinking that once the Bass (probably Orange Tree CoreBass samples through Kontakt 3) and Orchestration (still wide open to suggestions on that!) are done, they’ll be exported as Audio files or perhaps ‘frozen’ in Logic to ease the load on real-time processing
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*Assuming that the internal drive will be for OS and programs only, will having the sample libraries and exported audio song files on separate physical drives from each other pay dividends – particularly when considering that the audio tracks (probably no more than two or three stereo files) will be streaming whilst BFD is triggering live samples via MIDI input..? I’m wondering if the samples and audio separate drives situation will be considerable beneficial, or given the intended application, would this approach be merely over-speccing things?*
If that is thought to be the best approach, what do you believe to be the best way of hooking these up? I plan on using the FW400 port for the Echo AudioFire 8 and have ordered a Sonnet Express eSATA Card to hook up an external drive. Should any additional drive look to use the FW800 port or should I simply tag into the spare eSATA port on the Sonnet Express Card..? My concern with the latter is that a bottleneck would occur in the Express port and defeat the whole object
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If you're really only talking about 2-3 audio tracks per song, having them on a separate drive is not going to make that much difference. I'd recommend just using one drive for both audio and samples for now, you can always add another hard drive later if you're getting disk errors, or if you start using more audio tracks.
If you're looking for a good orchestral library, I recommend Vienna Symphonic Library Special Edition (about $500). VSL sounds great, and this particular set is much cheaper and still gives you a good amount of instruments/articulations.
If you do go with a third drive, use both eSATA ports. Even with a little bottlenecking, you should see substantially faster performance than with FW800. The data transfer rate of eSATA is over 3 times that of FW800.
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How does installing programs work when user folder moved to separate drive?

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revDAVE wrote:
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