Moving from Aperture....

I am moving away from using Aperture and was wondering what the process would be to move all of my files out of the Aperture libray and put into a regulr folder to be used by other programs. I'm really only concerned about the masters........
Thanks for any help you may offer
Frank

Take a project and use File _ Relocate Masters to ......folder / exernal HD. The question I have for you is what organization is in that folder. You will have to make that decsion when you are in the Relocation Dialog box. There is a lot to you problem/request so this is no way complete of an answer. Write back so we can expand. Frank is right also. Cheers

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Few questions related to moving from aperture to iphoto

i have decided that i want to move from aperture to iphoto,
a. provided iphoto can meet some basic needs that i have in mind. assuming it can,
b. the next question will be on how to make the move easiest and effective.
why, you might ask:
aperture is great but is more difficult to edit in. further aperture does not have some fun and easy edits - apply styles for instance. not to mention faces and places (although one can expect these features to find their way in aperture over time).
anyhow i am realizing that if my photo software was as simple as iphoto, i would share more and enjoy more . therefore moving. but moving is tough - need to think through. help appreciated!
Couple of questions:
0. i have looked and looked. did not find any solution that is thorough. these two links are the most relevant. http://bit.ly/1WSexN (this one is more of a sync solution, i need to research if it accomplishes what i need done - which is to abandon Aperture. at some point be able to delete Aperture library and the photos that Aperture refers to because the set will quickly get outdated) and http://bit.ly/zc7mC (this one does not answer the questions i have below, although it does seem to suggest that one can do export of projects such that nested folders are created)
1. i would like to move my projects (comprising of images in aperture) into folders on the hard disk, such that the IPTC tags are stored in the images on the HDD. I assume that masters will already have the tags and versions - no idea? anybody know about this. i will try test it too.
2. i have rated images extensively in aperture. anybody know how to transfer those ratings to iphoto? one kludgy way i can think of is to save an IPTC tag for every rating level and that hopefully will get transferred over to iPhoto.
3. importing folders into iPhoto - i am assuming that folders can be imported (by reference, without copying the image file into iphoto library) into iPhoto as events. how will i get the albums from aperture - not sure. kludgy way will be to enter album name as IPTC tag and then create smart albums. too kludgy and painfully slow in my opinion... anybody have ideas?
3.a. if i import nested folders of images into iPhoto, how would iPhoto treat that? again i can test, but if somebody knows, will not mind the commentary.
4. simple question - when i edit tags in iphoto, does it edit IPTC tags or does it have non-IPTC tagging approach?
5. simple question - when i make an edit in iphoto, where does it same the edited file? or is it a virtual version of the master image as in Aperture.
and that is all

0. What do you want to move? Use the Show Aperture Library in iPhoto will access your Aperture Previews not your actual files.
You need to export from Aperture to folders on the desktop and thereafter import to iPhoto. You need to decide if you want to export Originals - which means you'll have to start editing from scratch all over again - Versions, (which will be the edited photos, but you won't have your Originals) - or both. But if you import both to iPhoto you will have a large amount of duplication.
. i would like to move my projects (comprising of images in aperture) into folders on the hard disk, such that the IPTC tags are stored in the images on the HDD. I assume that masters will already have the tags and versions - no idea? anybody know about this. i will try test it too.
When you export from Aperture you will need to explicitly choose to write the tags to the output file. This is a setting in the Aperture export dialogue.
3. importing folders into iPhoto - i am assuming that folders can be imported (by reference, without copying the image file into iphoto library)
I strongly urge you not to run iPhoto in Referenced Mode. IPhoto works best in the default mode. Should the path to the files change at any point in the future - especially if you move the files to a new disk - then you may find yourself resolving the location of each individual photo in your Library.
Is there a particular reason you want to run a Referenced Library?
how will i get the albums from aperture - not sure. kludgy way will be to enter album name as IPTC tag and then create smart albums. too kludgy and painfully slow in my opinion... anybody have ideas?
That's the best way.
3.a. if i import nested folders of images into iPhoto, how would iPhoto treat that? again i can test, but if somebody knows, will not mind the commentary
In the iPhoto Preferences -> Events Uncheck the box at 'Imported Items from the Finder'. Now each folder will be created as an Event. There are no nested events.
If you don't uncheck the box, then each folder will be broken by date and time into Events.
4. simple question - when i edit tags in iphoto, does it edit IPTC tags or does it have non-IPTC tagging approach?
IPhoto works exactly the same way as Aperture. It does not edit the tags on the pic, but stores them in the database. The tags are written to the IPTC on export.
5. simple question - when i make an edit in iphoto, where does it same the edited file? or is it a virtual version of the master image as in Aperture
When you edit a pic with or via iPhoto it creates a new version of the photo. This is stored inside the Library package.
A Note about the iPhoto Library Package:
In this folder there are various files, which are the Library itself and some ancillary files. Then you have three core folders
Originals are the photos as they were downloaded from your camera or scanner.
(ii) Modified contains edited pics, shots that you have cropped, rotated or changed in any way.
(iii) Data holds the thumbnails the the app needs to show you the photos in the iPhoto Window.
Remember: iPhoto depends on the structure as well as the contents of this folder. Moving things, renaming things or otherwise making changes will prevent iPhoto from working and could even cause you to damage or lose your photos.
Regards
TD

Moving from Aperture 2.14 on a laptop to Aperture 3 on a mac mini

I have Aperture 2.14 on my laptop (macbook pro) and recently bought a mac mini and Aperture 3. How can I move my photos with all of the image enhancements and information (ratings etc) to the new computer and new system?
Also, if I want to update Aperture 3 on the macbook pro do I have to buy Aperture 3 again for that computer?
Looking for advice,
Thanks
Lisa

Also, be aware, the upgrade from Aperture 2 to Aperture 3 requires a massive rearrangement of the Library and particularly your Master images. This is especially important if you have a Managed Library, as they will be totally rearranged. (In Aperture 3, the Thumb, Preview, and Master of a given image are in a single folder, in Aperture 3, all of the Thumbs are in one folder, Previews in another, and Masters in another.)
Remembering the blood bath of a few years ago, I strongly recommend performing the upgrade on a large, empty disk - one with at least twice as much free space as the size of your Library. Doesn't have to be that fast a disk, I used an external FW800, but depending on the size of your Library, you can expect the process to run for many hours. Best to let it run overnight. Doing this on a disk that does not have adequate free space is, at best slow and, at worst, likely to result in a crash.
After the upgrade, you may want to perform the "Bergsma Bash" and delete various cache and Pref files. This has greatly speeded up Aperture 3 performance for many of us.
Delete the following:
Hard Drive/Library/Caches
Hard Drive/System/Library/Caches
Hard Drive/Users/(Your user)/Library/Caches
Hard Drive/Users/(Your user)/Preferences/com.apple.aperture.plist
Reboot... It will take a little bit.
The upgrade is not hard, just be sure that your Aperture 2 installation works correctly and is fully backed up before you start.
Best wishes,
DiploStrat

Moving from Aperture 2.x to Aperture 3 - Implication?

What does one have to do - apart from install the software. Is the Aperture Library altered for Aperture 3
Can one roll back to Aperture 2. x ( I guess not because of the extra changes that you make to images in Ap 3)
If the library is altered does it leave the original one in place and then create a new version for Aperture 3.
Simple questions but would like to know what I am getting into
Thans for any info

Yes. The email states:
3. The trial version of Aperture 3 cannot upgrade a library created by an older version of Aperture. This is only supported in licensed versions of Aperture 3 since it permanently upgrades the library.
3. The trial version of Aperture 3 cannot upgrade a library created by an older version of Aperture. This is only supported in licensed versions of Aperture 3 since it permanently upgrades the library.

I'm moving from Aperture to Lightroom ...

I have used Aperture for the last few years and really liked storing a lot of photos on an external disk, but having them categorized within aperture folders or albums or projects. I have a very large collection on an external hard drive and they are sorted by date, but within Aperture I can find them under various categories. That way I can look at the albums, and find the photo I want and then connect the external drive and work on it.
If I am able make collections on that external drive of the photos in the places I want them (say with folders which say things like "AbbeyFirstYear", "JoshGradeSchool") and then managed them with Lightroom do I choose "Copy" or "Move" when I bring them into Lightroom? I'd like to keep the actual files off my hard drive (this is a space issue) and just want references.
Separately, I backup that external drive to another external drive. If something should happen to the original one can I easily tell Lightroom to relink the images to the backup external drive?

Hi Pamela!
Lightroom is excellent at referencing images on external drives. If the drive is offline Lightroom will indicate that in the Folders panel. Once your images are added to the Catalog you can view, rate, tag, etc even with the drive offline. If you want to work on an image then you would need to connect the drive. To bring the images into your catalog, connect the drive and choose ADD in the import dialog. That will add the images but leave them in place on the external drive.
If a file gets corrupted or deleted you can connect the Catalog image to another copy that you have or copy from the backup to your external drive and then reconnect the Catalog image with the new copy.

Moving projects from aperture

I am moving from aperture, and have my projects sorted in the way shown in the attachment.
How do I transfer these to Lightroom so I can keep the same names etc?
Many thanks,
Derek

hi leonie.
i am back working today and i am still seeing this behaviour. if i drag an album from a folder and put it into another folder i no longer see images/thumbnails whereas i did see them before.
i have looked just now in the filter entry area (thanks for the screenshot...) and i am not seeing anything listed in here. One says "All Items" and the other says "Unrated or Better".
i just moved another Album to an existing folder, lost all thumbnail images (nothing shown in list view either) and - then to test i dragged it back to the original folder.
hmmm.
now i am noticing that there is a cycling symbol at the bottom of the Aperture window....
is it possible that there is something going on here (too many images in the album) or some kind of CPU logjam that is causing me not to see images as described? it is seems like something i need to figure out and is sort of disconcerting at the moment.
maybe i the best way to test this by waiting for the cycling to stop i suppose - now that i have noticed this...

Best practices: migrating from Aperture 2 to Aperture 3

What are the best practices for moving from Aperture 2 to Aperture 3. One thing I do know from reading the discussions board is to turn off Faces recognition until everything is working. What else?

Make sure you do a full backup and rebuild on the aperture 2 library before you migrate. (opt-cmd when you open Aperture 2)
Aperture 3 may slow down on you don't be scared it will finish. Mine took 1 1-/2 days, about 30,000 raw photos / 800GB.
Don't reprocess masters until Aperture is done with everything it needs to do, keep an eye on the activity window.
After you reprocess masters it will take a long time to generate thumbnails, again don't worry.
Bill Debevc
sshaphotos.com

RAW files in Lightroom (migrating from Aperture)

Hello,
I am an Aperture user that is thinking to migrate to Lightroom after the last announcement by Apple regarding its professional photo application.
I use to work with RAW files in Aperture and I would like to do the same with Lightroom. In this guide, in which Adobe explains how to migrate to its software, I cannot find any help about transferring RAW files to Lightroom (in my case, .NEF files by Nikon). Is it possible to do it?
Thank you in advance, Valerio.

That app does not do it all for you automatically. It does some preparation in Aperture and duplicates your entire picture collection.
Valerio, Adobe’s guide does say you should simply import your files into Lightroom. However, they must be in regular folders - "referenced" rather than "managed". See my Moving from Aperture to Lightroom for more detail.
John

Migrating from Aperture to LR - some questions

Hey all,
I'm a current user of Aperture and I'm considering going to LightRoom but I have some questions/concerns. I downloaded the demo and I'm playing with that but given my lack of knowledge, I wanted to ask some questions to get a feel for the product.
I'm not sure if my current aperture library is considered large or not but I have about 75gig of images to which I have them organized by project. Since the birth of my girls I've been focusing a lot on them - go figure Anyways the setup I have for them is a good example in how I typically setup up my images within Aperture. I'm not sure how easy (or not so easy this can be done with LR)
As you can see I have a folder called twins, then the year and finally the month. The purple icons are smart albums, basically images that pass muster and I upload to smugmug.
I basically would like to have something along those lines in LR - have my images organized by event, date (if need be) and then a smart album of images that I'll be publishing.
I'm still getting used to the interface, there are things I definitely like and some things I need to work on a little more. Any advice on moving from aperture to LR would be helpful though I do want to qualify that I'm still checking it out and have not made a decision to jump ship quite yet.
Finally are there any deals or such to lower the price of LR?

"while LR shows you your folders, offers the temptation of trying to categorise by them (resist it!), and allows you to organise and categorise by collections. You you aren't forced to use virtual folders, but can and should."
So you're saying don't organize the images in the physical folders - that's going to be a hard habit to break. In playing with LR last night, I created a separate catalog called twins09 and I exported my masters (with the sidecar) out of aperture by folder, i.e., January09 goes into a separate folder, as does June09 etc. I then created my smart collections of keepers by using the 5 stars and date constraints that LR provides, i.e, greater the 20090430 and less then 20090601 for May09 images.
What you're recommending is to create a twins 2009 folder and store all images there and then use collections/smart collections to organize the images. Interesting. Given the habits I've picked up using aperture that will be a difficult adjustment.

Moving from Adobe Bridge CS5 to Aperture 3

So I have been using Bridge since CS right through to CS5 for all my organising needs but I want something that is a little more organised in terms of photography requirements as my collection is getting larger and in need of higher organisation. I like the look of the workflow in Aperture 3. My only problem is that I would like to import the CRW raw files produced by my Canon SLR with the XMP sidecar files that contain all the adjustmenst to the image. There is no obvious way to do this in Aperture 3, is it possible? I have imported several collections and none of them have the adjustments applied to them in Aperture
Any help would really be appreciated.
Thanks

Unfortunately, it is not possible to utilize your ACR edits listed in the XMP file if you move to Aperture.
Basically, the issue is with the different companies design of RAW rendering which do not read each other's edits.
There is some support for DNG, but I would not recommend this path as there are a number of threads where users have had poor results. Apple's support for the format seems more like a stop-gap for users who purchase new cameras and may need to wait for the Camera RAW compatibility updates to be released for OS X before Aperture can recognize and render the RAW files.
I also moved to Aperture from a Bridge/ACR/Photoshop workflow and decided to simply backup my former work to an archive drive and then render all the images to JPEG for importing into Aperture. Since I am happy with the work I completed in the Adobe workflow, the JPEG renders fulfill my needs and Aperture allows enough tweaking of the images without degradation for future use.
All new images are of course either RAW or JPEG images imported directly into Aperture and I run a Managed library with all images inside the Aperture library package.
One other option you have (and that I thought about as well) is to keep the images in Finder folders and run a Referenced library where both Aperture and Bridge can access the files, but I personally saw no real benefit as Aperture offers the organization of Bridge and the non-destructive editing of ACR with a much nicer interface - IMHO.
Sorry I don't have a better answer for you.

Moving from iPhoto to Aperture with limited drive space

My biggest concern is the lack of space on my MacBook Air.
I have already purchased and download Aperture.
In the Import window I see the "move files" radiobutton and the "copy files" radiobutton under the "Store Files:" dropdown, but they are disabled.
As I understand if I just import my IPhoto Library, it will duplicate the files into the Aperture Library, and that wont work since my current library (iPhoto) is way bigger than my freespace in disk.
Buying external drive is not an option now since I im saving to buy a NAS that will solve my space problems in the near future.
What i would like to achieve is just to move all my iPhoto Library to Aperture Library. I wont use iPhoto anymore.
Can someone help me with this? Im really looking forward to use Aperture....

Hello Richieto,
I have already purchased and download Aperture.
In the Import window I see the "move files" radiobutton and the "copy files" radiobutton under the "Store Files:" dropdown, but they are disabled.What i would like to achieve is just to move all my iPhoto Library to Aperture Library. I wont use iPhoto anymore.
Set the "storeFiles" selector to "in their current location".
Have you seen this support article. Moving from iPhoto to Aperture - How to move http://www.apple.com/aperture/iphoto-to-aperture/how.html
If you follow these instructions, you will import your iPhoto Library by referencing - that means, all images remain in your iPhoto library; your iPhoto Library will remain unchanged, but Aperture references the files in in the iPhoto Library. This will save disk space; your images will be stored only once: Set the "Store Files" selector to "in their current location".
If you decide to do it this way, make sure you have a working backup of your iPhoto library. Also remember at all times that your master image files now are managed independently by two applications, that do know nothing of what the other app does and are not synchronized. So you must not move the iPhoto library, and you must not delete any images that are shared by both applications. Other than that this way to import from iPhoto will be the best deal, if you need to be frugal with disk space.
What i would like to achieve is just to move all my iPhoto Library to Aperture Library. I wont use iPhoto anymore.
Once you are happy with the way Aperture handles the images you can copy your iPhoto library to a backup location and consolidate the master image files (File -> consolidate) by moving them from your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library. This will delete them from iPhoto and store them inside the Aperture Library package. Then delete the iPhoto Library after testing that the consolidation was successful.
I im saving to buy a NAS that will solve my space problems in the near future.
Just a caution - you should not use the NAS to store the Aperture library - an Aperture library needs to bestored on a local volume formatted MacOS X extended.
Regards
Léonie

HT3412 I recently moved all my photos from iphoto to Aperture. I had several iphoto books and cards in my project file. When everything was moved to Aperture I can't find any of the books or card projects. Are they gone or can they be restored?

I recently moved all my photos from iphoto to Aperture. I had several iphoto books and cards in my project file. When everything was moved to Aperture I can't find any of the books or card projects. Are they gone or can they be restored?

1 - without specifics I have no idea how to help
2 - the question was "are you trying to use them in iPhoto? " - it sounds like you are - to do so you will have to export them from Aperature and import into iPhoto
3 - for information on how to use them in Aperature then you need to ask about how to use Aperature in the Aperature forum as it does not involve iPhoto
LN

Moving from Lightroom to Aperture

I've had Lightroom running on my iMac, but am looking at moving to Aperture on the quick recommendation of a pro photogapher friend. I haven't upgraded LR along the way, and so I'd be looking at buying the full program, which is more expensive than Aperture. And per my friend, workflow is pretty simple with Aperture, which sounds appealing. He's promised to give me a short tutorial on how to make Aperture work well for my needs
I have actually done very little in terms of reworking pictures in LR, so there's very little LR "work" to save. I have the originals on an external hard drive, organized into folders: Family Events, Travel, Kids Sports, etc. There are subfolders for various events (Dad's 75th birtday, etc.). My guess (not knowing much about Aperture) is that I should be well set up to bring these images into Aperture, and off I'd go. I could probably leave my LR catalog alone, since I don't have much work to retain.
Does this make sense, more or less? I should note that I do expect to have more time going forward to devote to working on my pictures, and I do have quite a few on that external drive (which is backed up, of course). thx

Michael Winner wrote:
...workflow is pretty simple with Aperture, which sounds appealing. He's promised to give me a short tutorial on how to make Aperture work well for my needs
Your friend is more optomistic than I am. IMO although one can evolve a simple workflow, there is a significant but worthwhile learning curve. I recommemnd fully completing one of the tutorials available.
Put 8 GB RAM in your iMac before starting so you can be sure any anomalies are not RAM-based. Also note that Aperture is a hardware hog.
I have the originals on an external hard drive, organized into folders: Family Events, Travel, Kids Sports, etc. There are subfolders for various events (Dad's 75th birtday, etc.). My guess (not knowing much about Aperture) is that I should be well set up to bring these images into Aperture, and off I'd go.
Yes on bringing them into Aperture. During import set to "Store Files: in their current location" so that you stay with what is called a referenced-Masters workflow. However moving forward you should lose the folder-think organization. Instead import Dads 76th as a (date based) Project, and use Keywords to identify things like Family Events.
My comments from an earlier thread:
First, Projects should be just that: individual-shoot based projects rather than some kind of organizing tool for all the architectural photos or whatever. For performance reasons personally I keep each Project under 500 20-MB images, making a second Project if the shoot is large (e.g. 110829_KJones_Wed_B). One or more albums will always organize the KJones wedding pix together anyway.
Folders are indeed flexible organizational tools but IMO often overused. Folders can effectively hide contents from view and therefore require users to remember how folders are nested and what is inside them. Folders were the only way to deal with single-original film, but are IMO limiting to image database thinking.
The way I look at it conceptually:
Aperture is a database, and each image file lives in one Project.
Albums are just collections of Pointers that point to individual image files living in one or more Projects. Since they just contain pointers, albums can be created or deleted at will without affecting image files. Very powerful.
Keywords can be applied to every image separately or in batches. Keywords are hugely powerful and largely obviate the need for folders. Not that we should never use folders, just that we should use folders only when useful organizationally - - after first determining that using keywords and albums is not a better approach.
As one example imagine the keyword "flowers." Every image of 100k images that has some flowers in it has the keyword flowers. Then say we want to put flowers in an ad, or as background for a show of some kind, or to print pix for a party, or even just to look for an image for some other reason. We can find every flower image in a 100k-image database in 2 seconds, and instantly create an Album called "Flowers" that points to all of those individual images.
Similarly all family pix can have a keyword "family" and all work pix can have a key word "work." Each individual pic may have any number of keywords.
So by using keywords and albums we can have instant access to every image everywhere, very cool. And keywords and albums essentially take up no space in the database.
Another approach is to use a folder "Family" for family pix, a folder "Flowers" for flowers pix and another folder "Work" for work pix. IMO such folders usage is a very poor approach to using an images database (probably stemming from old paper or film work practices). Note that one cannot put an image with family in a field of flowers at a work picnic in all three folders.
HTH
-Allen

Moving RAW files from Aperture to an EHD

Whats the best way to move my RAW photo files from Aperture to an external hard drive? For safe storage and future access.
It wants to export them as Tiff files which is fine. but l will want to delete all but the star rated ones form my macbook air to
clear space.
It will not be a back up it will be the only file stored so l will need to be able to re-load a file to sell it or use it in publications or as poster prints.

lucyfrombim wrote:
For safe storage and future access.
In what way is an EHD safer than the current storage (presumably inside your Aperture Library package on your MBA's system drive)?
In what way does an EHD offer better future access than the current storage?
I suggest the answers to those questions is: in no way is the EHD superior for the needs listed.
There is no _security_ or _future access_ need for your RAW camera files that is better met by an EHD than by storage inside your Aperture Library package.
The reason to relocate Originals from inside your Aperture Library package to a location outside your Aperture Library package is to make your Aperture Library package smaller. The reason to make your Aperture Library package smaller is to be able to keep it on your system drive. Your system drive is the best location for your Aperture Library package.
If you want to make your Aperture Library package smaller, relocate your Images' Originals using the command Frank specifies.
Note that none of the above is about _backing up_ your Aperture Library package or your Originals.
You should keep two complete backups, using separate devices, of every computer file you use.
As long as your Originals are inside your Aperture Library package, backing up your Aperture Library package backs up your Originals.
Any Originals that are outside you Aperture Library package, must be backed up in addition to and separately from, your Aperture Library package.
Aperture itself does not care where you store your Originals, as long as they are on a drive that is mounted to your computer.
Originals that are inside your Aperture Library package are called "managed". Originals that are outside your Aperture Library package are called "referenced".
Referenced Originals can be "on-line" or "off-line". Images whose Originals are off-line cannot be adjusted, printed, or exported. You can edit their metadata (including moving them in and out of Albums, etc.).

Any good workflow tutorials out there for those moving from iPhoto Aperture

Any good workflow tutorials out there for those moving from iPhoto to Aperture 3?
Especially those that deal with using a laptop and off-line storage of photos.
Cheers, Andrew.

There is no reason to not port a number from another provider (unless leaving a contract early and being charged the ETF) for if one does decide to switch back to their previous provider within the first 30 days after making the switch, the previous provider will take one back with welcome arms and the same phone number can be used this way.
Your way required getting a new phone number which can't be changed or potted after the fact for single line account.

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