Moving from iPhoto to Aperture 3 - will my raws be raw or jpeg?

For Christmas, my dear husband will be getting me Aperture 3 (o happy day) and I've been exploring the 30 day free trial. I shoot in RAW often, and I know when iphoto imports, it processes and keeps them a jpeg's for export (unless I specifically say export as original).
So, when I finally transfer my iphoto library to aperture, will it transfer the original RAW data or the processed jpeg image?
Also, if you could have the ideal Aperture library setup (referenced/managed), how would you prep to transfer your iphoto libraries? I currently have 3 since my hard drive on my old computer was so small, that I had archived some older photos to an external drive. I'm thinking that I want to thin out my libraries anyway, so this is a perfect time to start exactly how I want to do it.
Thanks!

It will do both actually. If you tell Aperture to Import iPhoto photo's you'll end up with a series of photo's that have a keyword applied (iPhoto original) those are your RAW files. You'll also find a set which has the 'Iphoto Edit' keyword applied, those are you're developed photo's.
The referenced vs mastered question is always a difficult one and depends a lot on your personal preferences and the volume you shoot. Personally, I like the managed option the best, so I don't have to worry where I put my pictures. Then again, I don't have many pictures so HD space is not a problem for me in this setup. I also always use Aperture to develop RAWs. So there is almost never a case when I need access via the Finder to the original file. In the rare case I do, I just export the master.
If you prefer flexibility or have HD space concerns, go for referenced.
One final note, you'll end up with lot's of iPhoto edits in your Aperture Library. Every image ever rotated will show up as such. So once you've finished your import, you might want to reserve a weekend to tidy up your Aperture database and keep only those that are extensively edited in iPhoto.

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Moving from iPhoto to Aperture with limited drive space

My biggest concern is the lack of space on my MacBook Air.
I have already purchased and download Aperture.
In the Import window I see the "move files" radiobutton and the "copy files" radiobutton under the "Store Files:" dropdown, but they are disabled.
As I understand if I just import my IPhoto Library, it will duplicate the files into the Aperture Library, and that wont work since my current library (iPhoto) is way bigger than my freespace in disk.
Buying external drive is not an option now since I im saving to buy a NAS that will solve my space problems in the near future.
What i would like to achieve is just to move all my iPhoto Library to Aperture Library. I wont use iPhoto anymore.
Can someone help me with this? Im really looking forward to use Aperture....

Hello Richieto,
I have already purchased and download Aperture.
In the Import window I see the "move files" radiobutton and the "copy files" radiobutton under the "Store Files:" dropdown, but they are disabled.What i would like to achieve is just to move all my iPhoto Library to Aperture Library. I wont use iPhoto anymore.
Set the "storeFiles" selector to "in their current location".
Have you seen this support article. Moving from iPhoto to Aperture - How to move http://www.apple.com/aperture/iphoto-to-aperture/how.html
If you follow these instructions, you will import your iPhoto Library by referencing - that means, all images remain in your iPhoto library; your iPhoto Library will remain unchanged, but Aperture references the files in in the iPhoto Library. This will save disk space; your images will be stored only once: Set the "Store Files" selector to "in their current location".
If you decide to do it this way, make sure you have a working backup of your iPhoto library. Also remember at all times that your master image files now are managed independently by two applications, that do know nothing of what the other app does and are not synchronized. So you must not move the iPhoto library, and you must not delete any images that are shared by both applications. Other than that this way to import from iPhoto will be the best deal, if you need to be frugal with disk space.
What i would like to achieve is just to move all my iPhoto Library to Aperture Library. I wont use iPhoto anymore.
Once you are happy with the way Aperture handles the images you can copy your iPhoto library to a backup location and consolidate the master image files (File -> consolidate) by moving them from your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library. This will delete them from iPhoto and store them inside the Aperture Library package. Then delete the iPhoto Library after testing that the consolidation was successful.
I im saving to buy a NAS that will solve my space problems in the near future.
Just a caution - you should not use the NAS to store the Aperture library - an Aperture library needs to bestored on a local volume formatted MacOS X extended.
Regards
Léonie

Restoring keywords that were deleted when moving from iPhoto to Aperture

I recently migrated from iPhoto to Aperture, and this apparently involves losing a TON of metadata. One new discovery I've made is that for my older photos (i.e., ones added and edited a few years ago when I was using an earlier version of iPhoto), the keywords have been deleted.
More specifically, if I have a photo and it has keyword X, then TWO copies appear in the Aperture library:
- the original image, with the keyword "iPhoto original" AND the keyword X
- the modified image, with only the keyword "iPhoto external edited"
(Note that I have not used any external editors; this is just how iPhoto seems to interpret images that were edited with older versions of iPhoto)
This is definitely buggy behavior.
This means that if I have a "best-of" keyword and I make a "Smart" album, it gets filled with original, unedited versions of my "best of" photos.
Is there any way to fix this without going one-by-one through THOUSANDS of older photos and manually copying the keywords from the original to the modified?
Thanks,
Mike

Hope we get an answer - I'm in the same situation as you, though I just went from iPhoto to A2.x on an older G5 tower. I've been debating whether to take the time to go through them, reorganize "better" than they were under iPhoto or wait for a more elegant solution...
KWO

Moved from iPhoto to Aperture, masters still in iPhoto file

I have been using iphoto 9 up until a year ago, when I got aperture and now use that exclusively. I finally decided to export my iPhoto library into Aperture. Following some other suggestions, I imported the library and chose the option of storing the files in their current location. It seemed like everything came into the library nicely, so I then chose to consolidate the originals by moving the files.
This took about an hour, and I assumed that everything was nicely moved and the iPhoto library should be empty. However, it seems the iphoto library is NOT empty. When I expand to show the content of the iPhoto library in Finder, there are still hundreds of files stored in the modified folder!
In trying to discover if somehow copies were made, I expanded the Aperture library in Finder and discovered that none of my iPhoto pics (which I supposedly imported and consolidated) are stored under the Masters folder (only the images previously in Aperture are there). However, in the Aperture program, when I tell it to locate referenced files, it says there are none! How can there be no referenced files, if I am seeing entire projects/events(imported from iPhoto) that don't show up when I search for them in Aperture's library in Finder.
Please help! I really just want all these pics in one place in Aperture!

They were all under the June 2012 folder because that is when they were imported.
Yes, that is how it is supposed to be: The date of the masters folder is the date imported, not the capture date.
If you want to find a managed image in the "masters" folder quickly, add the "import session" metadata tag to the info panel (it is in the "Aperture brick of the presets in the "Edit" panel). Then you'll know, for which date to look in the "Masters" folder.

Question on Moving from iPhoto to Aperture 3

I have a rather large photo library in iPhoto 3 and I'd like to move to Aperture 3. If I import my iPhoto library into Aperture, will I still have the same "lag" issues?
Or does the new navigation in Aperture 3 allow me to browse smaller sections instead of all of the events?
Any help with this is greatly appreciated! I would love to not have to scroll through all of my "events" in Aperture when working with my photographs.
Thanks for your help and time!

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3509 - Format external drives to Mac OS Extended before using with Aperture
That is perfect.
Is this step required for all drives to be used with my Mac? I don't think I've ever done this in the past.
It is required for photolibraries - iPhoto, Aperture. And may be necessary for other applications with databases. It is not generally necessary for simple documents, and you will not be able to open files on a drive formatted for Mac from a PC.
My drive still has 14GB of space left so I'm not sure if that is what is causing the issue. I should move to an external drive regardless (as this will make life easier with future machines as well).
That is really not much space and may be one reason for the lagging behaviour when browsing a large library. Try to keep at least 20GB free.
What is your MacOS X version, btw?
Regarding the library needing to rebuild, can I do anything to determine if there is a corrupt file causing these issues?
You usually can recognize a corrupted file when you try to edit it. Or try to print them by printing to pdf.

Switching from IPhoto to Aperture: will changes/metadata be transferred?

I have spent a lot of time editing, adding titles and the correct dates to more than 25.000 old pictures that I had scanned/digitalised. These, obviously, did not have the correct date but the date when they were digitalised. I did this in IPhoto by using 'batch change'. Now am I stuck to IPhoto forever or will all these changes be transferred if I switch to Aperture for instance? Or will Aperture or any other Photo-application only work with the original that a Mac always keeps?

If I wanted to keep them within iphoto - but to write the faces & places tags right into the Jpeg metadata - I could export and re-import to iphoto ?
Seems like a laborious and space and time consuming way to get faces and places tags written to the underlying jpegs!
Any other options ?

Moving from iPhoto to Aperture

I just purchased Aperture. I have been using iPhoto for a few years. Several months ago I downloaded the trial Aperture version. Thus, on the menu on the left, I see hundreds of photos labeled in the Aperture trial library folder and thousands under the iPhoto folder. All of my "master" photos are in my iPhoto library currently. Before I move all iPhoto photos/files to Aperture, should I delete everything from the Aperture folders first (i.e., the Apple trial library and all of the folders previously copied in from iPhoto when I was using the Aperture trial)? I don't want to have duplicate and triplicates in my Aperture library, just one master copy of all my photos? Also, should I move the files to Aperture or keep them in their current folders, which I presume are under iPhoto?
Thanks!

If your trial period was months ago I'd guess that nothing in the Aperture trial library is very current.
If that's the case I'd recommend you just start fresh when you download Aperture and start using it for real.
regards

Moving from iPhoto to Aperture with 15,000+ photos

Hi all.
I have iPhoto11 set up as manage mode for 15,000+ photos (around 350 "events"). I was having issues with iPhoto hanging up and being reallly slow when scrolling up and down through the Event layout even with the "thumbnails" or event previews minimized as much as possible. At first I though I might need more ram, so I went from 2 gigs to 8gigs, but not much of a change. Another discussion board advised I switch to Aperture3 due to its ability to manage larger libraries such as mine.
So I've installed A3, and proceded to "import" my iPhoto library. My questions are..
1) I "TimeMachine" my iPhoto lib., therefore I have a ~24gig iphoto "file" on the laptop and backed up to external drive. When I "imported" to A3, A3 created a ~24gig "file" as well. However, when I opened a photo in A3 and do a "locate photos on..or locate file, etc ...it points to the iPhoto lib. What the? Why not point within the A3 "managed file"??
2) In iphoto if I remove red-eye or crop a photo, there is the master untouched photo and the edited version. What gets imported over to A3?
3) Should I have exported iPhoto to reference then imported those reference photos as managed in A3?
Thanks

iPhoto is good for 250,000 images. Usual causes for slowness in iPhoto include damaged cache files, HD issues, and even corrupted pref files.
1) I "TimeMachine" my iPhoto lib., therefore I have a ~24gig iphoto "file" on the laptop and backed up to external drive. When I "imported" to A3, A3 created a ~24gig "file" as well. However, when I opened a photo in A3 and do a "locate photos on..or locate file, etc ...it points to the iPhoto lib. What the? Why not point within the A3 "managed file"??
How does Time Machine relate to this question? When you imported the iPhoto Library where did you tell Aperture to store the files?
2) In iphoto if I remove red-eye or crop a photo, there is the master untouched photo and the edited version. What gets imported over to A3?
Both
3) Should I have exported iPhoto to reference then imported those reference photos as managed in A3?
No, you need to make that choice in the import dialogue
Regards
TD

Moving from iPhoto to Aperture small issue...

Please go easy as I just made it to Aperture
So my iphoto library is gotten too big.
I am ready to make the move (editing skills are out growing iPhoto).
I installed Aperture last week and did a ton of research on how to make the move.
I even watched some apple video that seemed to make it DEAD simple.
So today I was ready....
I went to
file->import->library
I pointed the pop up window to my iphoto library.
Then hit import.
My iphoto library is 30.5 GB so I knew it would take some time....
I watched the progress bar do its thing.
Once it was done there were only two "images" in my Aperture library.
but all my albums/projects were listed.
No other photos were presant and the Apeture library is only 8 mb in size?
Might anyone be able to assist me in trouble shooting this?
I thought I did ALL my research and had all my bases covered.
Thanks in advance!

Nathan,
there is really no need to apologize. It was just that from your opening sentence "as I just made it to Aperture" I assumed, that you do not yet have set up an Aperture library that needs keeping. And then Frank's solution, simply using the iPhoto library as your Aperture library without need to import anything would have been the best option. Your iPhoto library is already an Aperture library and does not need any conversion.
So to be cleare you suggest that I import my iPhoto library into the Aperture library?
Only, if you want/need to unite your current Aperture Library with the iPhoto library. Do you already have invested work into your Aperture library and does it contain images you want to continue using? Then merging would save you from having to switch between libraries.
file->import->library
I pointed the pop up window to my iphoto library.
Then hit import.
My iphoto library is 30.5 GB so I knew it would take some time....
I watched the progress bar do its thing.
That is exactly as it is done. The screenshot shows only two videos. What is the size of your library after importing? Has the Aperture library grown by 30.5 GB? If yes, then I would open the library in iPhoto to check, if your photos are in the "hidden" album. Aperture cannot show photos, that have been hidden in iPhoto.
Regards

Will iWeb work with Aperture 3 if I move from iPhoto to Aperture?

I currently use iPhoto, and have an iWeb site. Is there any reason that iWeb and my published site would not continue to work if I import all of my iPhoto library into Aperture 3 and then stop using iPhoto? I am considering moving from iPhoto to Aperture. Thanks!

You're welcome bobio.
I assume you are talking about the sidebar, and if so I don't know the answer to that one. Your Events get converted to Projects which are actually more flexible than Events in iPhoto. A Project contains all of the pictures from your event, but they can also contain Multiple Albums and Folders and Sub-Folders. My website has shots of things I've grilled or smoked arranged by categories: Beef, Pork, Lamb etc. So my iPhoto side bar was manually sorted to reflect the same folder structure I had in iWeb's side bar. Once my import was complete, I created folders again and dragged my new Projects(formerly Events) into the new folders. I just looked and there a sort by pop-up but it has only choices of "by kind" (Projects, Albums etc.) or "Manual". So if they don't come in that way you are going to have to manually sort them in chronological order. But the main window that displays the thumbnails of the Projects can be sorted chronologically. So if you need to sort the sidebar, display the thumbnails by date and then this will help you with the order you will need to create in the sidebar by dragging the Projects around.
Once you have made absolutely 110 percent sure your photos were imported successfully, I would delete the iPhoto library. You could always play it extra safe and export it to a DVD(s). You should keep the iPhoto app around if you use the calendars or cards features. At this time Aperture only does Books. I do a calendar every year. This year I exported the photos I wished to use out of Aperture and imported them into iPhoto to make the calendar.
The other thing you may want to consider is what to do about edits you've made in iPhoto. One reason I switched to Aperture was to save disk space. For photos that originated in Aperture, there is one copy of the photo in it's library-this is called a Master. When you do an edit it is called a Version. Aperture keeps a text file with a list of instructions for what to do to that photo to accomplish your edit for this Version. So you can make lots of Versions of a photo and make lots of edits and the library size doesn't grow much at all, because there is still just one Master. In iPhoto when you make an edit the original is retained as is, and iPhoto creates a second copy of the photo which is what you edit. Because of this differing approach your iPhotos Events, which are now Projects in Aperture, will contain two copies of every photo you ever edited in iPhoto. The original unedited version and the copy which was the final results of your edits. If you are happy with these edits and won't ever want to go back, you can delete the originals. I spent quite a bit if time deleting these duplicate photos in all of the imported projects. Aperture does add keywords to help you tell which is which: "iPhoto Original" and "iPhoto Edited". Also remember to empty the Aperture trash (found in the Aperture Menu).
Good luck with the transition. You've got a bit of tedious work ahead of you, but the end results are well worth the efforts. I am so happy I made the change.
Jim
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Any good workflow tutorials out there for those moving from iPhoto Aperture

Any good workflow tutorials out there for those moving from iPhoto to Aperture 3?
Especially those that deal with using a laptop and off-line storage of photos.
Cheers, Andrew.

There is no reason to not port a number from another provider (unless leaving a contract early and being charged the ETF) for if one does decide to switch back to their previous provider within the first 30 days after making the switch, the previous provider will take one back with welcome arms and the same phone number can be used this way.
Your way required getting a new phone number which can't be changed or potted after the fact for single line account.

Migration from iPhoto to Aperture

Hello,
I just moved from iPhoto to Aperture. I did the migration described here : http://www.apple.com/aperture/iphoto-to-aperture/how.html but it failed at the last step.
I choosed “Consolidate Masters for Library” and I get this error message (sorry it's in French).
Are you able to help me ?
Thanks,
Wistiti

It appears that the error you are getting is telling you that the selection does not have any referenced masters. This can only mean that when you imported your iPhoto library into Aperture you choose to move or copy the masters into aperture.
As a test go to the Library tab of the Inspector, select the Photos icon near the top of the list. Go to the right hand side of the window. Click the dark magnifying glass:
Select the Add Rule pulldown and add File Status to the filter. Select Managed this will show you all the images in the library that are managed. You can also select Referenced to see all the images that are referenced.
If the files are already managed you don't need to do anything else.

Planning to move from iPhoto to Aperture

I want to move everything over to Aperture.
Will it be possible to copy my iPhoto library and then delete iPhoto without complications such as when I sync/photostream from my iPhone?
Will Aperture launch automatically instead of looking for iPhoto?
Any reviews from those who've done this are appreciated. iPhoto is fine for most but I need a pro solution.
In the opinion of those who've used Aperture for a while, is Apple consistenly patching and adding features?
Thanks,
Charlie

Aperture and iPhoto now share the same unified library format, see:
Aperture 3.3: Using a unified photo library with iPhoto and Aperture
or
Aperture 3.3: How to use Aperture to merge iPhoto libraries
So you can simply launch Aperture on your existing iPhoto Library - select the library in the Finder, ctrl-click it; from the pop-up menu select "Open with" and set it to "Aperture".
I would not delete the iPhoto Application however. It might come in handy one day. Only iPhoto can show you the managed original image files inside the library package, or you may want to view one of your older books and other print products. You may accidentally have hidden an image in iPhoto and need iPhoto to reveal it again.
The PhotoStream is tied to the library, and you will be able to use it with Aperture as well.
I moved from iPhoto to Aperture and did not regret it. I found the Aperture developement much more conservative than for iPhoto, but that is my personal view.
Regards
Léonie

Several questions about migrating from iPhoto to Aperture

I'm currently a heavy iPhoto user and am looking into migrating to Aperture. Can anyone give me a sense of what I to expect if/when I make this switch?
Here are several particular things I'm wondering about:
1. iPhoto works great as a computerized photo album for casual browsing. (I can see a page of different events with mouse-over previews, plus I can hide poorer shots so that I can just view the highlights.) Will Aperture be a step back in this department? If so, is it possible to "share" my Aperture photos with iPhoto without keeping two parallel copies of everything?
2. When I import an edited photo from iPhoto to Aperture, will the iPhoto "original" become the Aperture "original" and the iPhoto "modified" become the Aperture "modified? Is the same true if I export an edited photo from Aperture to iPhoto?
3. Does Aperture have an analog for "hidden" photos? I currently mark my best shot from a series by hiding the rest. Will I lose this marking if I migrate to Aperture or is there a way to preserve it?
4. I currently have a number of short video clips (taken with my point-and-shoot's video feature) mixed in with the iPhoto albums. (iPhoto really does let me keep everything organized in one place!) If I understand correctly, Aperture won't let me store these in my Aperture library alongside the still-photos of the same subjects. Is this correct? If so, how have other people handled this?
5. Do EXIF tags get re-read upon import from iPhoto to Aperture? I've got a number of iPhoto files which I've retroactively geotagged with HoudahGeo. Will the tagging be lost (since iPhoto is not currently aware of the geotagging as the EXIF tags have not been re-read)... or will Aperture now recognize this metadata?
6. If worst-comes-to-worst and I give up on Aperture after a few months, how painful will it be to un-migrate back to iPhoto? More importantly, what album metada (e.g. events, albums, ratings, tags, notes, dates, hidden-ness, links between original and modified versions of a photo, iWeb references, etc.) will be lost? In other words, if I were to import everything from iPhoto to Aperture, wipe my iPhoto library clean, and then export everything back from Aperture to iPhoto, what information will have been destroyed?
Thanks in advance for any answers to this long list of questions!

Here are several observations (read: warnings) in case anyone else is considering migrating a significant iPhoto library to Aperture...
A) Pictures marked as "hidden" appear to be silently skipped over (along with video clips, as was expected) when importing an iPhoto library to Aperture. They do not appear in the relevant Aperture project regardless of the filtering options.
B) Both iPhoto originals and modifieds are imported. The former are given the keyword "iPhoto original" and the latter are given the keyword "iPhoto modified." Each pair of photos is put into a single Aperture "stack." Both photos are given the same tags/ratings (so, for example, the un-rotated, uncropped, poorly balanced original will show up alongside the nice clean "modified" if you were to filter for 5-star images), and both files are given identical "version names" (equal to the "name field" in iPhoto). In most cases the original -- not the modified version -- was set as the stack's "pick" and displayed when the stack was collapsed. *Significantly, I could find no way of creating a view in Aperture that showed one copy of each picture, with the "iphoto modified" version displayed for photos that had been modified in iPhoto and the original version displayed for photos that had never been modified in iPhoto!* (This is, of course, the way they are shown in iPhoto.)
C) My understanding of "stacks" is that they are designed to help organize multiple "tries" at the same shot (e.g., I want to make sure that nobody's eyes are closed in the group photo, so I press the shutter six times in quick succession -- I'm going to pick a "best" one will be mostly interested in that shot from then on). This is a fantastic idea! However things get confusing if you are already using stacks to track original and modified versions (as described above)... particularly if your stack should contain six pictures plus original versions of each. Plus, as I mentioned, the "original" version is usually the default "pick" in each stack.
D) After import, "iPhoto original" versions of portrait photos appear un-rotated. Normally, my cameras (including a Nikon D80, an iPhone, and others) mark photos' orientations and they are automatically displayed in the correct orientation. Aperture appears to consider this auto-rotation an iPhoto edit and helpfully displays the "iPhoto original" always in landscape.
E) Aperture may incorrectly import events whose names contain a "/" or a ".", so if your event names contain dates, rewrite them with "-"s before importing to Aperture.
F) Aperture does have a rough mouse-over-the-icon-to-flip-through view, similar to the "events" pane in iPhoto... although you will lose your choice of which photo serves as the default icon for each event when you import your library from iPhoto, and you cannot "hide" photos from appearing in the flip-through as you can with iPhoto.
G) Perhaps it's my inexperience with the program, but I could find no way to sort the project list by date (vs. alphabetically), nor could I find any way to make a correction to a single photo's date/time.
As a bottom line, remember that Aperture is definitely not "iPhoto Plus." It lacks a number of iPhoto's features, but in exchange gives you a number of really slick tools aimed at streamlining a digital photography workflow.
I'd also encourage people to think very carefully before moving a large, well-organized iPhoto library to Aperture. You may lose a fair amount of information, and the result will take a lot of work to "make pretty" again. It does look like a nice program, though. Are you ready to relegate all of your existing pictures to an iPhoto "pre-history" and start over with a blank -- but much fancier -- slate in Aperture?

Move existing Aperture photos (from iPhoto) to Aperture's library's library

Hi,
I recently moved from iPhoto to Aperture. I did something wrong tho, since now most of my photos in Aperture are still in iPhoto's library (all of these show the "iPhoto Original" keyword).
I want to have them all in my Aperture's library, but I put many time on Aperture's organization and don't want to have to import all from the very beginning. Is there any way I can move those files still in iPhoto's library folder to Aperture's library? I plan to uninstall iPhoto after that, that's why I want all photos in Aperture's library.
Thank you

If the image is shown in Aperture, the image is in Aperture's Library.
The question is, where are the Master files on which the images in your Aperture Library are based. (The keyword "iPhoto Original" tells you nothing about the location of the Master.)
Right-click an image. Does "Show in Finder" appear in the pop-up menu? If so, then your image has a Referenced Master (Referenced Masters are located outside the Aperture Library (the image is in the Library and has a pointer to its Master which is outside the Library)). If not, your image has a Managed Master (the image, the pointer, and the Master are all inside the Aperture Library.
You can filter for images with Referenced or Managed Masters. Also, most of the default Metadata Overlays include a Badge which will show you which images have Referenced Masters (as well as the status of the Master).
Since you (seem to) want to have all of your images' Masters be Managed (= inside the Aperture Library), simply select all images and execute the command "File→Consolidate Masters". You can confirm that this has been done by using a Filter set to show all images with Referenced Masters. It should show no images.
Once all of your Masters have been consolidated into your Aperture Library, you can safely delete your iPhoto Library. You can also uninstall iPhoto is you wish.

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