Moving from POP on Eudora to IMAP on Mail - Help!

After much deliberation and perhaps with some regret I am finally moving from Eudora to Mail using IMAP. I have never really used IMAP and have a few queries.
I will be setting up IMAP with my office Groupwise system which archives email after 3 months. I would like to keep all copies of messages on my computer within Mail and within preferences (Accounts > Advanced) and I have set Mail to "Keep copies of messages for offline viewing: All messages and their attachments"
What will happen to messages that I am keeping on Mail when they are archived on my office Groupwise system, will they stay on my computer or disappear??
Has anyone out there made the move from Eudora to Mail, would welcome any comments on your experience.......
I also have a MobileMe account. Does email stay on the Apple servers forever or does archiving occur?
Thanks in advance
Tony

+I am an IMAP newbie....+
IMAP is great if you have a number of devices that you get mail on. In my case, a few computers at the office, one at home, and my iPhone. Because I'm using the IMAP protocol, mail is kept "in sync" on all devices.... Mail that is read on one, is received and marked as read on the others, so you don't have to read the messages again on each device. Likewise, sent mail (and attachments) is also propagated to the Send Mail folder on all devices as well. So mail that I send to someone from the office, shows up in my Sent Mail box at home, including attachments.
Mobile Me uses IMAP as well, so if you have more than one computer, your Mobile Me mail is automatically kept in sync across computers and other devices.
So in your case, it all depends on how the archive procedure is implemented at your office.... if mail is removed from the server and archived, that will automatically remove them from your computer(s) as well. On the other hand, if the messages are just copied and archived, then they will remain on your computer(s).
You can save any mail message on your computer.
1. under the Mailbox menu, create a new Mailbox. You'll want to save it "On My Mac". Once that is done, it should show up in the left hand pane.
2. Find the message or messages you want to save, highlight them, and control-click and you can copy them to your new mailbox. Now, the messages have been copied and saved on your computer, so it won't matter what the archive process does to messages on the server, you've got a copy.
Now, you could also just drag messages to your new box, but that will remove them from the server. I would guess that it's not totally possible to delete the emails from the server without them being archived, but again, it's going to depend on how your mail system is set up at work. Bottom line is that IMAP mail clients reflect what is currently on the mail server they access.
+If I need to reclaim space on my MobileMe account, what is the best way of doing this without losing email on Mail?+
Well assuming your reaching the end of your online storage, you could move your Mobile Me mail on your computer to a mailbox that is on your computer. Just be aware that moving mail out of the inbox will delete it from the server. You can copy it to a new mailbox and it will remain on the server, but that obviously won't free up any space on Mobile Me.
And of course, you can dynamically allocate space on Mobile Me between storage and email, so increasing one or the other may solve your problem

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Hello
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I've switched many users from Eudora - pop and Mail - pop to imap.
it's very easy. - just change the client setting.
we chose Thunderbird because it worked the same on both PC and MAC, and came with just enough options to make everyone happy.
if all the users are set to either pop/imap combo then only the clients have to make any significant changes.
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You're welcome.
Is there any harm in leaving my desktop Mail as is (POP account) and just realizing that I may experience an occasional "lock out"?
There is no harm with doing so, but I'm not sure why you would want to.
How do I release the email account from my iPhone?
There is no option for this.
I already have my data settings on the iPhone to "fetch" every hour--not to push. But does this apply to the IMAP account on the iPhone?
Push access for received messages applies to an email account that supports Push access. The following email accounts support Push access for received messages:
MobileMe
Exchange
A Yahoo account created with the Yahoo account preset.
"If" I decided to convert my desktop Mail account to IMAP, could I not just "add" the new account? Would I necessarily have to delete the POP account?
You don't have to delete the POP account, but you would want to make it inactive or disable the account with the Mail app - Mail > Settings > Accounts > Select the Account > Under the Advanced tab for the account settings deselect Enable this account.
If you want access to the locally stored messages in the POP account's Inbox and Sent mailbox with the iPhone's Mail app, you want want to copy the messages to a server stored mailbox or mailboxes after creating the account as an IMAP account.
Can I setup the account as POP on my iPhone and just keep it all POP? Or is this dependent on Charter's policies?
This depends on Charter, but I don't see why you wouldn't be able to access the account as a POP account with the iPhone's Mail app as well, but this will not get rid of the "locked out" problem on occasion.
A POP account is from the early dark ages of email account access with an email client on a computer when the overwhelming majority at the time had access to a single computer only - before there were laptops and laptops became mainstream, and before there were handheld cell phones much less cell phones in the smart phone category. Until the iPhone, phones in the smart phone category were primarily targeted and sold to the business/enterprise market, not to the consumer market. The iPhone changed all that - just look at all the copies and different phones in the smart phone category that surfaced after the original
Although it is possible to access a POP account with more than one email client, a POP account is designed to be accessed with a single email client only and includes a number of limitations that are not a problem with an IMAP account, which is specifically designed to be accessed with more than one email client.
There is no "locked out" problem with an IMAP account. You can store the account's Drafts, Sent, Trash, and Junk mailboxes on the server with the Mail app on your Mac, and the account's Drafts, Sent, and Trash mailboxes on the server with the iPhone's Mail app. The account's Junk mailbox stored on the server with the Mail app on your Mac will be available automatically when accessing the account with the iPhone's Mail app along with all other server stored mailboxes created for the account with the Mail app on your Mac or via webmail access for the account using a browser. You can transfer received and sent messages to additional server stored mailboxes by category with the Mail app on your Mac and with the iPhone's Mail app which will be reflected automatically with each email client. All server stored mailboxes are kept synchronized with the server automatically with each email client used to access the account. Sent a message with the iPhone's Mail app and the message will be available in the account's Sent mailbox with the Mail app on your Mac automatically and vice-versa. Read a new message with the Mail app on your Mac and the message will be marked as read automatically when accessing the account's Inbox mailbox with the Mail app on your Mac and vice-versa. Transfer a received message to a user created server stored mailbox with iPhone's Mail app and the message will be available in that server stored mailbox automatically when accessing the server stored mailbox with the Mail app on your Mac and vice-versa.
I keep the Mail app on my Mac launched and running 24/7 checking my IMAP account for new messages. I have the account's Junk mailbox stored on the server with the Mail app on my Mac, which is available automatically when accessing the account with the iPhone's Mail app and the same with my iPad 2. Any received message that is marked as junk and moved to the account's Junk mailbox stored on the server with the Mail app on my Mac is reflected automatically with the account's Inbox mailbox and Junk mailbox with the iPhone's Mail app and with the iPad's Mail app. The junk mail filter with the Mail app on my Mac is serving as the junk mail filter for the account with my iPhone and iPad as well - remotely since all server stored mailboxes with an IMAP account are kept synchronized with the server with each email client used to access the account.
NONE of this is available with a POP account.
If you have the option to access your email account as an IMAP account and you access the account with an email client on more than one computer or device, to me it is a no-brainer which way to go - IMAP, which is specially designed for this.

Blackberry move from POP to IMAP

Hello and thank you in advance...
A company I consult has FINALLY moved from POP3 email to IMAP. They are hosting with Network Solutions and NS just added the service to their account for an up-charge. The server information isn't changing at all, just the protocol.
When we reconfigure Outlook to use IMAP, will we also have to reconfigure all the Blackberrys or will they simply pickup the IMAP protocol from the server automatically?
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Hi and Welcome to the Forums!
You are correct that the configuration for either POP or IMAP can be transparent to the end user. It depends on what BIS "finds" when it inquires of the server (using the email address)...if it finds only POP, it configures for POP. Likewise if it finds only IMAP. If it finds both, it typically goes with the highest capability protocol (IMAP). However, we've seen posts from some who swear that it is configuring them for POP when their server is configured for both -- typically, we then recommend that they set up a second server so that BIS can be directed (via Advanced Integration) to the specific server providing the desired protocol.
It may be that you will need to remove the BIS configurations and re-create them in BIS so that BIS shifts to the new protocol. Further, you may find that, if you shut off POP and don't do anything with BIS, it may stop functioning until the BIS conduit is recreated. Your challenge will be the on-device Messages database...when you remove the configuration, that is of course wiped out. After you re-create the configuration, a restore may or may not allow those historical messages to be re-populated to the same BIS conduit on the device.
I guess what I'd suggest is doing nothing on the devices and seeing what happens...if you have to delete and re-create the BIS conduits for the BB's, then you will have to deal with the potential loss of the on-device Messages database (or it may work just fine...there's truly no way for us to know for sure).
Good luck!
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Change the mail account from POP to IMAP

Hi All,
I have been looking around on how to switch a 10 years old email account from POP to IMAP for quite a while without success.
I've noticed that if I delete a POP account all emails are deleted, and despite all the backups I'm concerned even creating a new IMAP account and move back into all the emails.
What do you suggest?
If I move all the emails into a local folder, are these email "disconnected" from the POP account so would I be able to delete the POP account without incur in a mass mail deletion?
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Having Mail automatically change account type from, say, POP3 to IMAP is not going to happen, in my opinion. With it would come great risk of losing existing data between the cracks, and I don't think Apple of other developers will do that. There would be no one size fits all in the IMAP server world, and communication to change On My Mac mailboxes to folders residing on the server needs forethought.
Looking at it another way, it would be like moving your bank account from one bank to the other, via only web access.
The headaches are not the product of Mail or other email clients, but rather understanding the difference between POP and IMAP, and that many people do not understand those differences is demonstrated every day on this forum.
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I want to change this account to an IMAP account, but it looks like the only way to do that would be deleting the POP account, and I would then lose all the emails (which are no longer on the server). Is there some way to restore these emails to the server? If so, I'd just delete the POP account and replace it with an IMAP account. I still use web mail to access this account when I'm on the go, so it would be great if the old emails were still there.
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Not quite there...
Created a IMAP account successfully (for my older POP that I temporarily took it offline) but there wasn't any Sent folder for the new IMAP created.
I am afraid to delete the old POP because the Sent folder will be gone as well.
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I've posted on this already, but I'm a little clearer about what the issue is, so I'm gonna try again.
I'm using Mac Mail. Recently my ISP assigned me an IMAP account. [Customer service says "we only use POP," but I can't get a POP account.] Messages in my mailboxes show up fine. I'm having difficulty with the mailboxes directly associated with the account---Inbox, Sent, Draft, etc.
I have only one Inbox. There are three Sent folders---the one that is always at the top of the sidebar, and two in an IMAP-specific set of folders. I coped the older messages from the POP account into what I thought were the corresponding folders of the IMAP account. Copied messages appear only in one of the IMAP Sent folders. However, when opened, they have no content. In some cases there is an indication that the content is "loading" but nothing ever appears.
Is it possible to get the older messages from the POP to show up with content in the IMAP folders? I gather from reading related threads from the archive that copying messages between account types should not be a problem, but it is for me.
Thanks,

Well, I thought I found a solution in the archives here: Import the old messages from within Mail. Had no doubt that would work. Well, it didn't. Though all the old messages were Apple Mail messages, when I tried to import Mail said, "No valid Apple Mail files were found." Tried importing them as mbox files. Same result.
IMAP has advantages for people who check mail from more than one device, or for multiple users of an account. Not having been forwarned by AT&T that I was going to be switched from POP to IMAP, it has been a big headache for me. And it clutters up the sidebar with a changing collection of folders, including many that seem redundant, and some whose purpose I can't, in my ignorance, imagine.
Supposed to get a call today or tomorrow from a unit in AT&T that is "specially trained" to handle problems like mine. We'll see.
I sure would like to get help from somewhere.

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