Moving My Catalog PSE 13

Ok I hope someone can assist me. So I used the Move/Copy to another drive I moved all of my pictures using this command and now I have a mess. I use to have all of pictures neatly tucked away in individual folders. I needed to free up some space on my hard drive. Now all of my photos or at least most of them moved to the external hard drive but now I don't have any folders and there still are many pictures still remaining on Hard Drive. To make matters worse I thought I would do a back to the same external drive but I forgot to make a separate folder and now I have a mess. If anyone has a solution for this it would be greatly appreciated.

KJSMN a écrit:
Ok I hope someone can assist me. So I used the Move/Copy to another drive I moved all of my pictures using this command and now I have a mess. I use to have all of pictures neatly tucked away in individual folders. I needed to free up some space on my hard drive. Now all of my photos or at least most of them moved to the external hard drive but now I don't have any folders and there still are many pictures still remaining on Hard Drive.
The command 'Copy/move' is similar the 'Export' command. It works on individual files, not on folder trees or branches. The result always gets into the folder you have chosen.
What you want to do is to 'move' a folder tree or a part of it to another location. It's not moving the catalog (the database where the details and location on the drive of the pictures are kept) it's moving the pictures themselves while keeping their structure in the Explorer/Finder. I'd call that moving a 'library' or part of a library.
Keep in mind that 'moving' is only an image, a metaphor in computer language. You really first Copy something somewhere, then you Delete the original files.
How to do this library move ? If you do it from the Explorer/Finder by drag and drop or the menu, that seems easy, but the catalog is not updated, so you'll have to 'reconnect' your files. If you do it by small batches, that can work well.
It's recommended to do it from the Organizer itself. In the left folders panel, depending on the Elements version, you show the folder tree just like in the explorer/finder. You drag and drop, and the Organizer updates the path for the files in the catalog database.
Organizer: Moving folder trees or branches - Elements Village
To make matters worse I thought I would do a back to the same external drive but I forgot to make a separate folder and now I have a mess. If anyone has a solution for this it would be greatly appreciated.
You should deal with that problem first. Your backup has stored a number of copies of your files in a wrong folder, and you want to delete them. Most of those files begin by B00... It's relatively easy to find them and to delete them. That should recover most of the space on your drive.
The problem you have left now is that you have lost your folder tree structure. If you had no backup, there is no way to restore it exactly. It's possible to use other data in the catalog to create a new folder structure based on dates (recorded from exif in the picture files), on albums or themes like events or places. You select pictures corresponding to a specific empty folder and you move them there.
My advice is to keep the new structure simple since that does not add any advantage to using the catalog and its virtual organization of categories and keywords.

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You wrote: "You navigate to the new location but it's not clear what exactly you "do" to re-link. Clicking the name of the lost folder in the resulting dialog box (new-but-named-the-same-as-old-drive) didn't change anything back at the Library display of that folder.."
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mgraleigh wrote:
The old computer (32 bit) has PSE 9 and the new one (64 bit) PSE 11.
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