Moving to iCloud will delete my Smart Mailboxes?

Currently, I read that moving to iCloud will delete all of my Smart Mailboxes. I have about 40 of them and I own a business and this feature helps me organize my emails. I haven't moved to iCloud for this reason. They say the deadline is June 30th. Is there any way that Apple will leave this feature in once I move to iCloud?

lj2585 wrote:
I was about to finally update to iCloud when I froze seeing the "Smart Mailboxes" listed on the warnings...I spent 10 minutes on chat with Apple Support...and they too told me that Smart Mailboxes were not working with iCloud and (believe it or not) referred me to THIS PAGE in the forums for a more complete answer! Anyway...in reading that some have updated to iCloud and still have Smart Mailboxes that work (and asking the Chat person whether that would extend after June 30...to which she didn't have an answer!#$%*#@#$!!!! - who have they turned into....Miscrosoft????) ANYWAY...I went back, slowed down and actually READ the warning (and the Learn More link) and I believe the answer is that they will no longer SYNC after iCloud. It didn't make sense to me that iCloud could interfere with the workings of the Mail Application itself...but I'll be interested to see other responses. For now, I believe that the issue is not that they will be DELETED...but they WILL NOT SYNC. Will be happy to hear from other users.....
Smart mailboxes don't 'sync' in Lion, just as they did not 'sync' in Snow Leopard. A smart mailbox is merely a saved search, no mail is actually in it. Your smart mailbox searches should transfer to iCloud but even if they don't you can just make them again.

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Bonjour Crumbleey,
Excuse me, I don't understand your problem ... Can you describe it and tell me what you want to get ?
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