Moving Version Sets in PSE 3

I edited photos and saved in a version set. Then I moved the photos to a different file location. If I browse in PSE 3, it shows the version set in the new location. But if I browse on My Computer, the original photo did not move (only the edit).
How do I grab the entire version set to move to another folder? If this is not possible, how do I seperate the version set? (Everytime I try to do this, it wants to delete the edited pictures first.)
I have spent many hours trying to organize all my old pictures and I'm almost ready to give up and just use the freebie Microsoft Photo Editor and My Pictures :( Thanks for your help!

This is a bug in the "version set" feature in PSE 3.0 that is fixed in
version 4.0. Did you right-click on the version set and then choose
version set->expand version set (or is it reveal version set?). You can
then choose each individual picture in your version set and move them
one at a time.
-Trish

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