MP4 to Apple ProRes codec

Hi all!
Just a quick query here.
I have a GoPro HD Hero sports camera which shoots at MP4. As FCP doesn't like the format I have converted to Apple ProRes using good old MPEG Streamclip.
I had roughly 40GB of rushes and once converted it has taken the folders file size to over 200GB!
Any reason why such a massive jump?
Cheers!
GK

Cheers for you replies
I did think it'd be because ProRes was less compressed but to jump up so much made me ask. It just seemed excessive that's all.
Studio X - Cheers but I do run all my media from an external Western Digital 2TB Firewire drive, have always done so. I shall certainly be deleting the ProRes transcode once the job is done.
Many thanks
GK

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I am on a MAC - I joined the Adobe bandwagon during the great FCP migration of 2011 ... So far it's been great but...
Both Premiere CC AND After Effects CC are not recognizing Pro Res ...heck it doesn't seem like they are recognizing QUICKTIME in general (both progams are rejecting a .MOV I have with the animation codec) ...
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I use ProRes all the time as well, but I have Final Cut Studio on my workstations.
I had not come across MindPower009's YouTube video. That explains how ProRes could be showing up without FCP or Compressor.
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Alex CVideo > I am so happy that you wrote about this
Yes: this is the exact problem. Very nice screencap, this is exaclty it (even if I said it 2 times now).
I have a little secret for you:
I read in another discussion saying that he had this problem too.
The only time I ever did in the entire Internet.
here it is :
this guy re-installed her entire system
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+" ... I just got in my new iMac ..."+
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+" ... the file I'm playing: MPEG-2 Video ..."+
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Ok, ok ... I get it... time to upgrade, time to upgrade.
I cringe every time I get a new client... oh my god -- are they gonna be shooting on XD cam (unsupported by fcp 5) -- will they have material that lives as apple prores? What exotic new codec will I be UNABLE to edit with?
I bought this G5 just before the intel chips were introduced -- I think I actually bought the last one standing....
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