MP4 vs MOV

I bought a Flip video camera and used the included FlipShare software for the first week. It did a fine job of editing video clips. Then I got iMovie. The first thing I noticed is that where FlipShare would take about 3 minutes to download 800MB of clips, iMovie took about 25 minutes.
I could see that iMovie was converting the MP4 files from the camera to MOV. The MOV files and more than 3.5 times bigger than the MP4 files.
What is the point of this?

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xml)
i have loaded the FMS3 on my local computer and i'm trying to
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When I try to convert an .mp4 to an .mov in QTPro the converted file only has the audio portion.
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Couldn't care less about Wondershare. I brought that up so who ever read this would know that Wondershare has no problem and converts the file from mp4 to mov the problem was why Quicktime Pro which is supposed to do the same is not converting it.
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Couldn't care less about Wondershare. I brought that up so who ever read this would know that Wondershare has no problem and converts the file from mp4 to mov the problem was why Quicktime Pro which is supposed to do the same is not converting it.
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