MPB C2D fully charged at 85% low battery warning keeps coming on?

I purchased my MPB C2D back in Nov 06, recently I've been experiencing drastic drop in battery life after charging overnight. When I use my MBP the following morning, battery meter shows 85%, "low battery warning " comes on, and within 5 mins, it goes to sleep. Anyone know what the problem is?

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Hello,
I'm not sure is this is the right forum for this, but since the problem occurs during a specific battery state, I'm going to post it here.
I just got one of the new November 07 MacBooks. The machine is great, and screams with the pre-installed Leopard.
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/dev/zero wrote:No worries :-) If you can think of any ways to improve the script, I'd be interested to know. It isn't perfect because output from "acpi -b" is unpredictable.
I did adapt your script a bit to suite my needs (Thanks for showing how to write deamon scripts! I haven't thought that it is so straightforward and beauty full.) , but I wouldn't say I improved it as I am basically illiterate in bash.
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