MPEG-4 AVC/H.264

Hello all,
I had a camera which records MPEG2, but it is broken. Now I want to buy a new camera which will record in AVCHD. Before I do this, I want to try to edit a MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 file in Adobe Premiere, see how it works on my PC.
Is there a place or site where I can download a sample MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 file. The content doesn't matter, as long as it is a file in the format I will get when having a AVCHD camera.
Thanks in advance,
Best Regards,
André.

What version of Premiere?
Here's a downloadable sample file courtesy Fuzzy Barsik:
Spanned AVCHD clips sample from SONY HDR-SR12 camcorder
(7z archive file / Post #148).
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5461972#5461972
Reference:
H.264/MPEG-4 AVC
CS6 note:
Audio and Video glitches | AVCHD footage - CS6 bug
http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/kb/audio-video-glitches-avchd.html
Promised fix:
Premiere Pro CC July 2013 Update
"Our commitment to customers includes those who haven't yet
subscribed to Creative Cloud or who rely on CS6, and we plan to
release an update to Premiere Pro CS6 in the coming weeks that
will address an AVCHD clip spanning issue."
http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/07/ppro-cc-july-2013-update.html

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