MPower Z87 - long board start up

Hello,
I purchased MPower Z87 board and after yesterdays assembly I stumbled upon strange board behaviour.
Spec:
CPU - i7 4770
RAM - 2x4GB G.Skill
HDD's - 1x WD EARS 2TB SATA2 - 1x WD EARX 2TB SATA3
SSD'a - 1x OCZ Vertex 90GB SATA2 - 1x Samsun 250GB SATA3 - 1x Toshiba 128GB mSATA
PSU - Seasonic 620W
Problem:
AFAIKT - Debug codes:
9C - SCSI detect
A2 - ATA detect
Long board start up. When I power up PC then I can see debug codes:
9C - 20sec -> 2min
A2 - 2sec -> 5min
So in worst case scenerio board boot up up to 5minutes !!!
NO HDD/SSD - 9C - 20sec -> A2 - 3sec = 23sec to BIOS !!!
This is on 130 BIOS, same on older one that's why I upgraded from 100.
Any idea what can cause this?
Any adivce more then welcome.
PS> Some complains:
I must say that I'm not a fan of MSI at all. I did purchase this board only because sound was better then the one in ASUS ones. My bad and now I regret it because this on my speakers won't be noticed anyways.
6xSATA slot - congratulation on adding to the Mobo L shaped connecters and not streight ones, now I can't connect upper ones when lower ones are used !!!

Well ... I don't know what debug code mean because well.. no entry in manual on this one... so. But that's not important.
Tests, now I see only A2 debug codes (9C is either super fast or not present at all) and time is related to that code:
Legacy+UEFI
SATA3 - boot very fast (SSD Samsung 840 - clean - factory state)
SATA3 - WD EARX (HDD - clean - factory state) - slow (around 5-10sec)
SATA3 + SATA3 - (SSD + HDD - factory state) - very slow
UEFI:
SATA3 connected - boot very fast (SSD Samsung 840 - clean - factory state)
SATA3 connected - WD EARX (HDD - clean - factory state) - very fast
SATA2 connected - WD EARS (HDD - partition data) - very slow
Ok.
That's deal breaker for me, as I won't juggle drives when new ones will be purchase later just to get acceptable boot speed.
In old days (Pentium 1 to 3 times) MSI product were portrayed by me as cheapest one and cr@9ies ones, now only first one changed as it's still cr@9 but cost now much more.
Going to the shop for ASUS one <- that's probably faster solution.
UPDATE:
Sometime when I press power off after some time (5-10sec) PC turns ON automatically, maybe I did turn on some "auto wake" feature - although I have all this disabled.
A2 - on drives still with long wait.

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