MR11- F.19 difference

Hai Gurus,
Can any one tell me what is difference between mr11 and f.19 when we use thease two tcodes.
My problem is from 2007 onwords lot of purchase orders are open some are goodrecieved but not ivoiced,some are invoiced but not goods are not recived,some are some are goods recieved fully and invoice is done for only some quantiy.
in future also we are not going to any invoice for remaining balance quantiy
in above situation which tcode can ful fill this and thease are 2007 purcahse orders
Please suggest me the best way.
Thanks
Amarnath Reddy

Reall GR/IR clearance is to be done with MR11.
F.19 is for analysis and preparation of financial statements:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/EN/96/8b328343ce11d189ee0000e81ddfac/frameset.htm
see last sentence there: These postings are reversed after the financial statements have been created
MR11:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/EN/43/34d338bd0a11d38aec0000e83234f3/frameset.htm

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Hi
Its functionality is like that.
But try this one - go to FBKP - automatic postings - Goods/invoices receipt clearing - You can see two options goods delivered but not invoiced and invoiced but goods not delivered. Enter the GL accounts you wanted to post for MR11 and simulate the scenario.
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Executing MR11 will give a list of Pos to be cleared by reading differences in GR/IR quantities for each PO showing a list of POs that:
A.     GR done but no IR done for it.
B.     IR done but no GR done for it.
C.     Both GR and IR done but partially (GR quantity is more than IR quantity or vice versa).
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-having said that which T-code will show a list of POs that GR, IR for it is different regarding value but the same regarding quantities and how can I clear it?
-can I simulate the posting document before posting? How the entry will look like especially for point A, B
- is there a selection to execute MR11 to only clear items for point C above?
Using mr11: If the quantity is different between GR and IR but the amount is equal for both (if possible), will a posting document be generated for this situation, please describe?
Second: f.13 to clear the GR/IR account:
-Here I want to ask about the use of the selection GR/IR account special process, should I tick it or not?
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2-line items that were different in amount but settled using MR11.
-after all the process will GR/IR account open line items will reflect only items that a GR done for it but not IR and vice versa (which is my goal).
Your feedback will be highly appreciated.
Regards.

Hi,
Let's try to take these questions one-by-one. First about MR11.
1. You understanding of MR11 is correct
2. Regarding the case when only the value differs. Please remember that in the case of IR before GR, the latter is valuated to the invoice price, not the PO price and hence there can be no difference in value. So our question is solely about the case when GR before IR. When an invoice is posted after the GR and with different price, the difference amount is posted either to the stock acct (process BSX in the acct det. trs OBYC) or to the price diff acct (process PRD). Hence you can just take a list of line items (e.g. trs FBL3N) on these accounts with document type RE (or whatever you use for IR).
3. You don't need to clean these differences since they are not posted to the GR/IR acct - the balance on GR/IR is always zero if GR qty = IR qty - SAP ensures this.
4. I am not aware of any possibility to simulate the action MR11 will take, other than to run it "prepare list" mode. You will see the amount that will be debited or credited on the GR/IR acct (dependent on the sign of the difference, particularely debit in case A, credit in case B), but the offsetting entry can be either on the price diff. acct or the stock acct (or split between the two).
5. Excluding case C. in the cases A and B the difference between GR and the IR is 100%; if you limit your selection on the first screen of MR11 to the difference <= 99,9%, you will exclude these cases.
6. Qty diff but not value diff. As described in #2 above, such case is only possible when IR comes after GR. In such situation there will be a balance on GR/IR acct, since the GR/IR acct for the smallest between GR qty and IR qty will be balanced (the price diff. for this qty will be posted to the stock or price diff. acct at the time of IR) and the excess pieces (from GR or from IR) will reside on the GR/IR acct awaiting the corresponding document to clean them (diff. qty multiplied by the PO price if GR>IR or by the invoice price if GR<IR).
Hence MR11 will clean this balance (again - to the stock acct or the price diff acct or split between them).
Now to F.13.
1. GR/IR account special process. This is only meaningless if you have "GR-based IV" flag in the PO (tab "Invoice"). In such case you can decide to do the clearing by the GR document number if you have many deliveries/invoices on this PO (normally a schedilng agreement). Otherwise, you will have a long list of line items on the GR/IR acct that cannot be cleared until the whole scheduling agreement is over (can take very long time).
2. F.13 will only clear line items on the GR/IR acct if they total to zero and the latter is only possible when GR qty = IR qty as described above (at least for one delivery if you use the "special process" above). On the other hand, the values of GR and IR don't matter as explained above - GR/IR will be balanced (and can be cleared by F.13) and the difference will be posted to a price diff. acct or the stock acct (if IR after GR; otherwise no diff. at all).
3. If there had been balance on the GR/IR acct (only in the case when qties differ), MR11 generated additional posting so that the total of the line items is zero and they can be cleared by F.13.
4. Yes, if you limited MR11 not to take into account items with diff. of 100% (see #5 above) and after then ran F.13 then all your open items on the GR/IR acct will only represent cases A and B.
Hope it is clearer now.
BR
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Dear expert
For automatic clearing of GR/IR account use F.13 for manual clearing use T-Code MR11.
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here Nothing is to be cleared using MR11...these lines will be cleared out via F13/F13e.
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Hi,
I would like to know when to use F.13 and MR11.
1)
Example 1, I need to use F.13 whereas example 2(whether due to quantity or amount), i need to use MR11. Correct?
2)
Why minor differences in example 2 can happen? even it is due to forex, during IR the difference will auto book to inventory or price difference. so why can happen?
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here Nothing is to be cleared using MR11...these lines will be cleared out via F13/F13e.
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Difference between MR11 and F.13
http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-acct/closing-grir-with-mr11-and-f13-1996469
MR11....?
http://erphelpdesks.com/difference-between-f-13-and-mr11-sap.html
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