Mrp for phantom assembly

Dear Gurus
My main item is a phantom assembly the sales order comes for the phantom assembly only.I have got a multilevel bom for this phantom assembly .The bom of the phantom assembly contains the semifinished item. And the bom of the semifinished item contain raw materials.Now while running MRP I dont want any planned orders to be generated for phantom assembly the system should create planned order for semifinished item and purchase requisition for raw material.How can it be done.
Regards
Sandip Sarkar

Hi,
Check the Planning Stratgy: [Planning with Planning MAterial without MTO|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a2/4e799a927d11d1800f00c04fadcb73/content.htm]..
It seems relevant to you Business..
Phantom will carry altogether different meening..
How will you handle the Stocks??
Regards,
Siva

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Hi All,
I am unable to view the sub items when I create planned orders in APO and production orders in ECC. But when the order for the same material is created in ECC, I can see all the sub items. I see that this issue is only for Phantom Assemblies.
And I cannot say that all the items in the Phantom do not appear, actually some of them do appear in BOM explosion.
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Prd Ord for A is created in ECC
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Then my BOM explosion shows
..1 B
..2 D
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Hi,
Your requirement is not very clear.
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Mayuresh,
Generally when a production order is created and if the order has Phantom assemblies, it is suppose to explode the BOM of the phantom assembly and create reservation for its components. Is this not happening?
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/92/b84d40eae76f13e10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/dc/28c13dd9279710e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/4d/01be3d1abbe913e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/71/513b407b686913e10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
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Dear ,
Couple of points on this issue which may help you understand the problem : Bom Explosion With Phantom Assemblies will happen based on the following set up .
1. You need to maintain the special procurement key-50 for the phantom Assembly
in the MRP 2 View of the material master
2. We can override the Phantom Assembly Setting by defining in SPRO --->
Define Explosion Types so that MRP Creates Procurement Propasals for the
Phantom Assembly itself.ie We can Swith off the Phantom Assembly Settings.
This settting need to be defined in the BOM Item details screen in the Basic
Data Tab Page under MRP Area.
So check in your Bom whether switch off phantom assembly is defined.Make the Explosion Type-Blank
3.Run MRP Single Item - Multi level - Transaction MD02 with Planning Mode 2 : 'Re-explode BOM and Routing'. The Phantom Item will now get exploded correctly in the Planned Order.
4.Check the Validity of the BOM and planning date
5.Check the MRP4 set up in FG where you have kept the BOM/Routing selection
6.Check wether dependent requirement material master -MRP4 view -MRP for Depent Requ should be blank .
Check the above points and come back
Regards
JH
Edited by: Jiaul Haque on Jun 14, 2010 2:15 PM
Edited by: Jiaul Haque on Jun 14, 2010 2:18 PM

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Hello MCantos,
When you have maintained the usage probability as 0% for a alternative component, that means you do not want that partular material to be planned further. In short this is just an Engineering Relevant Material (is not required in Production activity).
When this alternate material with usage probability 0% is phantom material, you want its components to be proposed. But you yourself have answered that this phantom material has usage probability 0% and this means it is not required in Production and thus its components as well are not required. Thus system is not exploding the BOM and proposing the material at the time of Production activity.
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Rahul.

Phantom Assembly Planned Order in APO

Sub : Incorrect quantity and Bucket for component in scenario of Phantom Assembly
Hi Gents,
I am using the Optimizer planning run for a scenario with Phantom assembly.
The master data has been used below
Material u2013 862700 (Finished goods)
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Location - 8501
Planning Book - ZAL_SNP_PB_BG
Data View - ZAL_SNP_DV_BGF
Optimizer profile - ZAL_OPT_01
I have entered a demand for above FG on 22.02.2012 and running a optimizer by selecting both FG and Phantom assembly. As a result the optimizer has created the planned order for FG from 18th to 22nd Dec. 2012. The advancement of the planned order is due to production capacity constraint. When i analysed System has created planned order for phantom assembly in last two buckets of the planning book and heneceforth the component requirement it is appearing only on last 2 buckets of the planning book. The date for this dependent demand is 28th and 29th Feb.2012 and the quantity is also wrong for the components as per the BOM.
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HI Ipsita,
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Planning at Phantom Assembly Level 59- Mixed MRP

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Planned order is not creating for a phantom assembly

Dear experts
My fert having two semi finished components
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And second semifinished is assigned with two different raw material
in material master of second semifinished mrp2 view Special procurement=50
and after running mrp, second semifinished is not getting any planned order or dep requirement all the raw material under this getting planned order
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Am i correct?
Pls advise me where i need to check
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Hi,
Phantom assembly will generate planned order for its component when you will maintain:
Procurement type: E
Special procurement type: 50
Also in SPRO: OPPQ BOM explosion
Also check in BOM In basic data tab
In MRP Data screen, check explosion type- are you maintained phantom assembly off? Check it if you want planned order.
If you don't want system generated planned order for your phantom assembly component you should not maintain this indicator.
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Alok Tiwari
Edited by: Alok Kumar Tiwari on Feb 29, 2012 11:38 AM
Edited by: Alok Kumar Tiwari on Feb 29, 2012 11:39 AM

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Hi
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I want to understand phantom assembly concept..
I have gone through sdn and find this answer to be understandable..
Phantom Assembly:
A logical grouping of materials.
A phantom assembly is created in engineering to describe a number of components and manage them
as a whole. The components in a phantom assembly are immediately placed in the superior assembly.
Components in an assembly are first assembled to produce the header material. Then header material
is placed in the superior assembly.
Example
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Regards
Mangalraj.S
But can anybody tell me, In the above where should we maintain the sp prc key 50.. In the fron wheel or in the rear wheel...
Pls explain me..

Hi,
"In the above where should we maintain the sp prc key 50.. In the fron wheel or in the rear wheel..."
For this you need to create an logican assy new mat no in MMR.ex: xxxxx for which components are rear wheel - Rxxx, front wheel - Fxxx ..
Assign 50 in mrp 2 view of assy xxxxx material .
now this xxxxx material is phantom assy.
when you run MRP for FG this phantom assy will get explode and dependent req will be created for Rxxx and Fxxx directly with out creating planned order for xxxxx mat..
come back futher if you have any doubt.
regards
vinoth

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