MS-6309 v5 Celeron 1.2 + Fuzzy Logic 3/4

this is a msg i posted to the MSI support mail.
Hi!
Im using an old MS-6309 v.5 mainboard with the 370 socket
and a Celeron 1200 tualatin on WinXP SP1.
This is my problem :
Im trying to use Fuzzylogic to overclock my system and simply doesnt
work it gives a error message that really doesn´t make sence.
In my manual it say that my mainboard supports Fuzzylogic 3.
I have all the latest updates for both windows and from liveupdate.
and i have come to the conclusion that it´s either something wrong with
my mainboard OR that fuzzylogic doesnt support my mainbord in WinXP, or
perhaps that the configuration in the BIOS is wrong. But i have tried
everything. I have tried FL4 also but same thing there.
Please help me before i go crazy.
sincerly / John
Any suggestions would be helpfull .. Going APE! :]

I've currently got mine running at 1.31 GHz by raising the fsb to 131 MHz in the BIOS, which isn't too bad, but that's as high as the BIOS will allow with a Celeron and I know this thing will go faster. It barely hits 90 degrees F with 100% load for several hours. 8o
With the higher multiplier (12x) on your CPU, it's very possible that 131 MHz fsb is about as high as you'll get it anyway. So, you might not really need FuzzyLogic to max it out. Just be sure you've got good cooling, turn it up slowly and watch your temps. No response from MSI? X(
I really wish this software worked, it looks pretty cool. Oh yeah, for some reason, I had to enable or disable 'Quick Boot' in the BIOS to get it to overclock (can't remember which at the moment). Enable it, I think. Otherwise, it would repeatedly reboot, slowing itself down each time until it hit something like 666 MHz! :(

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