MS 645E MAX-U & ATI Radeon Pro 9700

I took delivery of a new PC a little while ago but it has never successfuly run any of the games I currently play.
Age of Mythology
Battlefield 1942
Warcraft III
Variety of errors including exiting to desktop, freezing, blank screen, unsupported frequency errors etc.
Tried XP Home, W2K, XP Professional but none work. XP Sometimes catches the errors, offers to file a report with MS and accuses the RADEON Drivers.
Tried variety of Radeon drivers (Currently 6200).
Have spoken to suppliers a number of times and they suggested reformatting as FAT - no joy, loading DirectX 9 - no joy (Yes I know its only Beta but the supplier didnt).
Now want to request suppliers replace components but not sure which. Other information suggests users have played battledfield with the 9700 so I think it may be MB or the combination.
Suggestions please??
Spec:-
Systemax Premier Midi Tower 300W
ATI Radeon 9700 pro 128MB DDR with TV-Out + DVI
Intel® Pentium® 4 2.8GHz 512K Cache 533FSB
120GB Ultra DMA 100 7200rpm
Systemax 40x12x40 CD-RW
1GB PC2700 333DDR (2x512MB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Creative Audigy 5.1 With Firewire
MSI SIS 645DX Socket 478

Hi All,
Finally got the supplier to replace both power supply and Radeon card.
Power supply is now Antec SL400 which is not as good as the True Power I asked for but still appears to meet the specs being recommended.
Radeon is like for like to cover possible hardware fault (They would have swapped for GeForce but none in stock at moment).
Problem is if anything slightly worse (Now using 3Dmark2002 which appears to give repro results).
With new H/W 3DMark doesnt even start, before it used to cause reboot during tests.
Tried fiddlying with BIOS and it appears that reducing Memory clock so that memory is at 266 instead of 333 produces a stable system. No other change seems to have an effect.
Not yet had chance to report to supplier.
Suggestions Please.

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First of all, i youst have to say that i think MSI have the best motherboards....
Here's the problem (i haven't buyed anything yet!):
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I don't wish to sound redundant here, but I've been reviewing the vendor's page:
It's OK- I don't mind beating this dead horse....
The maker says such to protect themselves from possible claims that may arise due to over loaded systems and power problems when their card is installed in said system.
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It's kinda' a long post, but, if you care to get ALL the details, check the following:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7065653&#7065653
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Which leaves your second, and very appropriate, point.
The main enemy of all, though, isn't power. Heat is the biggest concern.
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Adding additional cooling to remove the extra heat produced by the 9800, by using an exausting PCI fan, will also help the PSU provide adequate voltage to the system, by reducing the amount of hot air moving out of the PSU.
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Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 963:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 964:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 965:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 966:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 967:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 968:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 969:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 970:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 971:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 972:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 973:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 974:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 975:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 976:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 977:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 978:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 979:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 980:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 981:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 982:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 983:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 984:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 985:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 986:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:04 localhost kernel[0]: 987:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 988:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 989:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 990:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 991:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 992:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 993:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 994:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 995:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 996:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 997:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 998:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 999:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1000:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1001:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1002:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1003:0xffffffff
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 1004:0xffffffff
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Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: 0xaeba99b7
Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x01004e48 4f000207 00000007 20080178
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x13c280a4 c0003a0c 00000002 00000008
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x80000003 0000001f 00002a2a 8401c100
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000002 00100000 51b3a220 40000000
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x60000000 0002000a 0008bbbb 00000000
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0x00000003 0000444f 10031004
Dec 28 13:13:12 localhost kernel[0]: 0:0x000101ce
There was a lot more of this but i dont want to spam the thread
This is the interesting bit...
" Dec 28 13:03:05 localhost kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Dec 28 13:13:02 localhost kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x8401c100"
Any ideas ...please dont just say"Buy a new card" i would really like to get to the bottom of this...if it turns out that my card is fried then fair enough
Quick silver 2002 Mac OS X (10.4.8) processor upgrade to 2Ghz gigadesign 7A</

I'm getting exactlly the same error. This occures after several weeks of sudden & spontaneous shutdowns. And now I get this error whenever I try to launch W.o.W.
Feb 25 07:41:52 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Feb 25 07:41:53 drive-0 kernel[0]: ATIRadeon9700::waitfor_rbspace: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 2, need 5. RBBM_STATUS 0x80016100
Feb 25 07:42:04 drive-0 kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Now, my card is actually a 9800 Pro. I think it's something to do with OpenGL. I'm gonna try to launch other apps that access OpenGL directly and see what I get.

ATI Radeon 9600 Pro / 256MB + Leopard

Hello i have problem to install correct my ATI Radeon 9600 Pro / 256MB. I Installed ATI Radeon 9600 Pro / 64 MB on my mac, because i could not install Logic Pro 8, and I Installed succesful. Install programm said by ATI Radeon 9600 Pro / 256MB that Quartz extreme are not supported, and I have 0 MB VRAM. That's not right. I Tried install update for ATi, after no display. I install Grafic update for OSX and the same. I was found that in system / Library / Extensions/ are ATI Radeon 9700.kext . When I delete this file i can run my Cinema 30'' display, but I cannot run Quartz Extreme. But this card are supported for Quartz extreme. When I put my old card
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 64MB - is supported for Quartz Extreme but my display Cinema 30'' can only 1280 x 800. What can I do ?
Message was edited by: knoche

Das Problem ist gefunden. Der Mac wurde 2003 gekauft, und wie viele von dieser Serie waren Motherboard fehlerhaft. Ich habe 2 davon. Die Motherboards waren dann 2004 ausgetauscht zu unterschiedlichen Zeiten. Der 1. in April andere November. Dann war alles scheintbar O.K.
Erst jetzt haben wir gesehen durch den Austausch von Grafikkarten das etwas nicht stimmt.
ES WAR MOTHERBOARD DIE FEHLERHAFT IST. In 2. G5 von 2003 geht die Karte einfach wunderbar. Ich hofe das Ich damit helfe den Tausenden da draussen die gleiche Problem haben vor allem in Apple forum, und keiner hat Lösung.
Vielen Dank an die Firma Colormatch - die Jungs sind einfach Klasse Schlau.

Will the following ATI Radeon 9800 Pro work on a G4 MDD?

I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, 128MB DDR, and I'm wondering if anyone can verify if it will work on a G4 MDD. It was bought for a G5, but that G5 doesn't exist.
Embossed on the front of the card it says:
PN: 109-a14400-01
On the back there are 3 stickers:
1) J53480YRQ74B 603-4070
2) SN + PN: 102A1440103 000009
3) J53480YRQDMA 630-4908
On the metal back-plane it has etched: 805-5422-A
The card has 1 ADC connector with 25V/4A Max written beside it, and one DVI.
Google brings up some hits, but nothing definitive concerning G4 vs G5.
Thanks in advance!

If it looks exactly like this one, including the "teeth" along the bottom, it won't work in any G4.
This card has an "AGP Pro" connector, which gets all of its power through the slot (it has no molex connector).
Even if the card was cut to physically fit in a G4, the AGP slot in a G4 (any model) can not provide enough power for a 9800. It would fry the G4, the card, or both.

MS 645E MAX-U & ATI Radeon Pro 9700

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