MS-7125 K8N Neo4 Platinum NB fan speed

This is the information I was given by MSI tech support. Even though MSI describes Core Cell's Buzzfree technology as controlling the NB fan speed it only works on certain models and the 7125 is not one of those.

I wish it was buzz free. My 7125 NB fan buzzes like crazy, I need to find a solution to this annoyance.

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LAN issues with the MS-7125 (K8N Neo4 Platinum)

UPDARED BIOS:
MS-7125 (K8N Neo4 Platinum, K8N Neo4-F, K8N Neo4-FI)
One place it said: Online Ver. 3.77.000 One place it said: Online Ver. 1.D0
The system now displaces a new Bios boot screen and the boot up number is now 5.2.16.
XP all up to date and LAN drivers up to date.
I am seeing a saw tooth ping to my WestTel DSL modem. On all of the other PCs here on my LAN the first hop is always 0ms. After updating the mother board bios and turning on the LAN memory I still get 0ms to 7 or 10 ms.
You can see more detals at http://webviper.com/LanIssues.htm
Any Ideas please email me at [email protected]

Sorry the system did not email me.....
I did update the BIOS and I used the liveupdate. I also updated the NVIDA drivers with a link that MSI sent me. This did help things out a lot but the issue is still there. I have updated the web page with more info and pics. I have disabled the Xp firewall and have hooked the pc up to the westtell dsl modem.
After a reboot things run fine for about three hours... Then it starts and get worse as time goes on. It is not a heat issue as my new case has 10 fans and the read out of the CPU is good! 34C
Thanks for the help.... Here is some more data... Do look at http://webviper.com/LanIssues.htm
Regards,
WebViper [email protected]
UPDARED BIOS:
MS-7125 (K8N Neo4 Platinum, K8N Neo4-F, K8N Neo4-FI)
One place it said: Online Ver. 3.77.000 One place it said: Online Ver. 1.D0
The system now displaces a new Bios boot screen and the boot up number is now 5.2.16.
MSI support sent me a link for updated NVIDA drivers and that helped the issue some. I do not have the link to the drivers as my link to the MSI support is not working now. Not sure if they have deleted it or if their system is down.
Lan Cards and drivers:
NVIDA nForce Networking Controller
Driver:4.8.2.0 Date:4/6/2005
Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
Driver: 8.14.1.3 Date: 9/19/2005
I feel that this is a Driver/XP issue. When i loaded the new NVIDA drivers that MSI sent the first hop went from 0-47 to 0-17.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_nf4_winxp32_amd_6.70.html
If only i could get the driver to make it 0 all the time like the other 4 computers that are on the same router.

K8N Neo4 Plat NB fan Speed problems

Hey,
I recently bought this system (see signature), and just today the NB fan started going haywire… I’ve done some searching on these forums and it appears im not the only one that is having problems with the K8N Neo4 Platinum chipset cooler.
CnQ reports RPM numbers in the upper 7000 (usually around 7500 RPM), and the noise it generates is intolerable.
I’ve tried to manually set the NB fan speeds via the recommended SpeedFan application, but to no prevail.
Can it really be that there are no solutions to this problem other than replacing the chipset fan?
If that is so MSI should really consider selling future revisions of the motherboard with a different fan, or, enable control of the NB fan voltage.
I really hope someone can help with this, all the other topics didn’t provide any other solution than to replace the fan… but the last entry to these discussions was back in May, so I hope additional solutions may have surfaced.
Thanks

Quote from: Flow on 31-October-06, 01:42:08
It wont go any faster then present though.
In my case the fanmate with setting wide open produces a little less rpm on the northbridge then without this device.
the fan will spin faster if the voltage applied to the fan is higher, and slower if the voltage is lower. so if you supply the same voltage (basicaly use the same connector on the mobo) and keep the fan mate to full, the fan will spin a little bit slower since the fan mate already acts like a resistor, even if set at full speed.

K8N Neo4 Platinum NorthBridge Fan

I've had a K8N platinum motherboard for about a year and a half now and have had lots of problems with the northbridge fan. The first one they included started rattling and went out within about 6 months. I replaced it with another socket fan, which has recently started making the same noises. I decided to give up on these fans since they did not last and attached a heatsink. I booted up my computer however, and discovered that the heatsink is hot to the touch. I reinstalled windows on my machine and no longer have the diagnostic software which tells me the temperature for my northbridge chipset. I have heard different accounts for how hot a north bridge chip should be.
Does anyone have any advice? How hot can the north bridge get without getting fried? Should I leave on the heatsink or replace it with a better ball bearing fan? Any suggestions for good fans?

marcus65,
That was one of the issues I had with finding a cooling solution for my motherboard. I attached an ATI graphics card (x700 i believe) and it does cover the northbridge partially. I bought a zalman heatsink which was about an inch and a half high and did not fit between the northbridge and the video card. I had to find a shorter heatsink. Thanks to everyone that posted suggestions. I think I will order a ball bearing fan/heatsink for my northbridge.
Pahn

MSI MS-7100 K8N Diamond/Platinum SLI & MS-7125 K8N Neo4 Platinum Bios and Tools

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/111
for those without a diamond club membership

Hello !!
The Bios configuration depends on many factors.....but we do not know anything about your configuration. ( CPU, RAM, Powersupply.....)
If you need HDD Speed, RAID 0 will be a good Option and you should consider it.
Both Controllers, Silicon Image & nvidia, have the same speed. But i think you can not attach Optical drives to the Silicon Image Controller. ( if someone has other experiance please post )
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK

K8N Neo4 Platinum - fan replacement

I have a 2 month old K8N Ne04 Platinum edition (not SLI) motherboard. At first the system was dead quiet, however the NForce4 Ultra's stock fan has become increasingly loud over the last week, to the point where I can no longer hear myself think.
Can a new fan be ordered and attached to the existing heatsink, or does the whole unit need to be replaced? I have no idea what 3rd party part would be compatible, any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Quote from: Iceman81 on 07-July-05, 07:30:38
Hello there, I too had the same problem after 1 month of having the K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard. All was well and silent then all of a sudden the NORTHBRIDGE fan started clattering and getting very loud to which was very disturbing.
The only way around this is completely taking out the "MSI" provided NORTHRBIDGE fan by removing the motherboard from the case and pressing on the clips on back of the board that hold the fan and then popping in a new NORTHBRIDGE fan/cooler. I found a great replacement for the cheapie MSI provided fan in the "VANTEC CCB-A1C Ball VGA COOLER" which is all copper based and purchased from www.newegg.com for under 15 US dollars shipped.
Below is the picture of what the fan I recommend looks like...
I have since been using the "VANTEC ICEBERG COPPER COOLER" and the NForce4 chipset has been running very-very cool and was a perfect fit!
Take care, Ice!
Sorry to revive an old thread but looking at my problem and how often it was that question asked here, I want you to help clear things up...
Is this Cooler you are referring to, this one? The same model and everything?
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-23998289-cooler-chipset-o-video-vantec-iceberq-modding-_JM
Because if it is, I can buy it here knowing I will have that cooler replaced...
Another thing, Which is better? Titanium or copper? cos the titanium one is cheaper...
Thanxs a lot for helping me out pals...
EDIT: Sorry, pal... Didn't mean to offend anyone

K8N NEO4 Platinum (MS-7125) PINOUTS

I really do apologize to everyone if im sounding a little tiring on this matter, but im near the end of this journey and im just checking the last and final details before final assembly....
I was just going thru the K8N NEO4 Platinum manual and i started wondering what exactly do they mean when they label a pin "RES" or "Reserved" what does this mean? whats the difference between "RES: RESERVED" and "NC: NOT CONNECTED"?
the ATX1 main connector for the board sports the "NC" label on pin 12 while on my PSU that pin has a +3.3V line, and pin 20 has the "Res" label and again in my PSU that pin carries the -5V line, the manual has no notes on that,
so is it safe to assume that nothing will happen if i connect my PSU to the board?
I have a KMEPC PH Series 500W dual fan PSU, ATX 1.3 compliant and has both the 12V 4pin connector and the 20+4 main ATX power connector, it was the best bang for the buck down here and has 25 amps in the 12V rail which should be more than enough for my system.

RES/ RESERVED means that the pins are not in use and reserved for future needs.
NC/ NOT CONNECTED means that the pins have no connection, can be used in the future as needed.
The -5 volt line is a relic of the old ISA days, most newer MB and many P/S no longer use this.
The P/S connector has a few more 3.3v pins, with newer MB the 3.3v is not so much needed as the 12v rail is being used for more work, in the old days (really not all that long ago) like the KT133 era the 3.3v was used Extensively.
You are safe to connect your P/S up to your MB, Happy computing

K8N Neo4 Platinum (MS-7125) Mic Jack question

I have a microphone i would like to use with my K8N Neo4 Platinum (MS-7125) and I was just wondering if the mic jack was powered or not because the microphone will not work.

hey, i tired that before did'nt work but now it did. But there still is a problem with the mic, the recorded volume is way too low, even with mic boost on.

Windows Vista CTP 5308 on K8N NEO4 Platinum (MS-7125)

I have a system based on the K8N Neo4 Platinum board and i was just wondering wether or not Windows Vista will run well on it, are there any issues to take into consideration in installing the February CTP of Windows Vista in a system based on this board?
any feedback would be much appreciated?

While not exactly the same motherboard they are very similar i have the MSI K8N SLI Platinum and windows vista beta 2 was pretty happy with it.Hope this helps.

K8N NEO4 Platinum (MS-7125) DIMM Memory Setup

im planning to install two Kingston value ram KVR400X64C3A/512 on my K8N NEO4 Platinum board, this two modules although identical feature double side chip arrangement, i an also well aware from reading the board manual that dual channel installation of these modules will actually slow down the performance of the memory,
what would be the best setup for these to modules?
im planning on installing one module in DIMM1 and the other in DIMM2, is that the best recommendable arrangement for this type of DIMMS?
also this DIMMS use 2.6v, and the board default setup is 2.5v, should i leave the default settings or do i need to make any changes in the bios configuration for these to work properly?

I would go with a dualchannel config.
Confirm dualchannel mode on boot screen or with cpu-z software
http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php
To compare differant memory configs, you can get a rough performance idea by running sisoft sandra mem.benchmark.
http://download.guru3d.com/sandra/
Never go below RAM voltage recommendation.
I rather upper the voltage to 2.7 for best stability.

Single Channel Dual Channel Question, K8N Neo4 Platinum

Just putting together a machine for the Daughter. Using MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum board 7125-010, MSI NX6600GT PCIE 128 Video card with AMD64 3700 CPU SD and a 1 GB stick of Crucial dual sided memory, CT12864Z40B, DDR 400 3200. The rest of my parts arrived and just got it all together and booted into the Bios. The boot screen tells me the memory is DDR Single Cannel, 64 bit running at 3-3-8-3 and 2T timings. I have been into the Bios setup, but had let the memory boot at Auto settings. Is what I am seeing on this screen OK because there is only one stick of memory installed? Or am I just confused as normal? I was thinking it should read Dual Channel, but I am hoping that is just my backwards thinking at times. I wish all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Thanks in advance for the guidance.
Pop's

JayBee; Thank you very much for the quick response. The Daughter decided to go with the 1GB stick to begin with so as to possibly add another 1GB stick later. I don't think she will need it myself, judging by her computer use. She does no gaming or multi-tasking, so there probably will be no need to add more memory in the future. I was just wondering if there is any noticable performance hit by using a single stick vs a pair of matched 512's?? I used the same MB as in my sig, but noticed the new one has an upgraded BIOS. I hope it is an improvement, because I have yet had no problems with my machine which has the V1.6 BIOS. This new one which is about 2 months newer than mine has a BIOS V1.A in the bios screen. At bootup it is identified as ( 6A61FM49C-OO ) what ever that means. I read the forum daily and have noticed you are very active and consice in helping folks out. I very much appreciate your time and effort that you give freely. Hope you have a very safe and happy holiday season and SANTA is very good to you. I think we as a group need to get SANTA up to speed on gift giving in the computer upgrade department.
Regards; Pop's

K8N Neo4 Platinum as HTPC mobo questions

I've been looking at building a Home Theater PC (HTPC) for a little while now and have been investigating various parts, including possible motherboards. The MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum is a key canidate and I was wondering if I could get some advice from people who actually use the board as to whether it would be suitable. Here is the basic run down of what I need:
1) I have read that there are potential issues with the AMD 90nm cores. It seems a lot of people in the forum are running them though. Has the problem been cleared up with the latest BIOS? (I am looking at using at least a 3500+ Venice core, but might try to go a little higher).
2) The board has a cooling fan on it, How loud is it? (The goal is to try and make the system as silent as possible without going over budget)
3) Front side Firewire connector - it seems like its located between two PCI slots. Has this posed a problem?
4) The PCI slot "reserved" as a comm slot - is it usable for other PCI devices? (One reason this board is on the short list is that it has 4 PCI slots. I plan on putting in at least 3 tuner cards, possibly 4 or using the 4th for a sound card or some other device. Thus, having this slot available as a general purpose PCI is important. Some retailers claim it is 'reserved' others don't.)
Any other recommendations would also be appreciated. Especially as concerns silencing and processor choice.
-Watson

Quote from: watson on 08-March-06, 00:54:50
1) I have read that there are potential issues with the AMD 90nm cores. It seems a lot of people in the forum are running them though. Has the problem been cleared up with the latest BIOS? (I am looking at using at least a 3500+ Venice core, but might try to go a little higher).
There were, make sure u get a E4 revision or higher. 99,9% of CPU's shipped today will have that.
Quote from: watson on 08-March-06, 00:54:50
2) The board has a cooling fan on it, How loud is it? (The goal is to try and make the system as silent as possible without going over budget)
Very, I have the same fan. I run it at 5v, than it's OK, u can get an adapter in most PC shops. Getting a passive haetsink is also a possibility, but that will void your warrenty.
Quote from: watson on 08-March-06, 00:54:50
3) Front side Firewire connector - it seems like its located between two PCI slots. Has this posed a problem?
Dunno, Don't see why, make sure u get a HTPC with a front bracket with a FW port.
Quote from: watson on 08-March-06, 00:54:50
4) The PCI slot "reserved" as a comm slot - is it usable for other PCI devices? (One reason this board is on the short list is that it has 4 PCI slots. I plan on putting in at least 3 tuner cards, possibly 4 or using the 4th for a sound card or some other device. Thus, having this slot available as a general purpose PCI is important. Some retailers claim it is 'reserved' others don't.)
Hmm, my gues is that that would be a problem.
Quote from: watson on 08-March-06, 00:54:50
Any other recommendations would also be appreciated. Especially as concerns silencing and processor choice.
See if this will fit in ur HTPC (the 80mil one)
http://www.coolermaster-europe.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=RL-MUA-E8U1%20/%20EBU1&other_title=+RL-MUA-E8U1%20%2F%20EBU1+AQUAGATE%20Mini%20R80%20%2F%20R120
Underclocking and undervolting will also help keeping the CPU cool = less need for noisy fans.
Be weary of components causing heat. Samsung HDD's are the coolest, use as many as the onboard stuff as possible, etc..
Stick to 1 casefan and put it on the NB-FAN, so Corecenter or Speedfan can manage the fan speed. Recomended brands are Papst, Panaflo and Vantec Stealth.
4GB limit is due to having a 32bit OS. With 32bits u can only adress a max of 3GB. It might work using XP 64-bit, but I don't see why a anyone would need it.

K8N Neo4 Platinum rig build opinion

I am putting together a multi-media rig and want your opinions.
It willl be used for audio, video and photos for a hobbyist friend:
MSI "K8N Neo4 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra
AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 2.2 GHz, 512KB L2 Socket 939
eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6600 Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express, Model "256-P2-N369"
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD740GD
Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD2500JD
Corsair Value Select (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 512MBx2 DDR PC-3200
Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200, Model TWINX1024-3200C2P

I'd go with Crucial Ballistix instead of Corsair. I've read too many reports of Corsair memory being DOA lately and I like Micron chips anyhow. I verified my memory with MemTest86+.
Make sure whatever video card you get has a relatively quiet fan. The 6600 and 6600GT series cards with 60mm fans are much quieter than the ones with the dinky 40mm fans. I'm very happy with my Leadtek. I believe MSI's cards have 60mm fans? The 6600GT is MUCH better than the 6600 for games.
Try to get a Winchester-core (90nm) Athlon 64. Lower power consumption. More expensive though. Arctic Cooling's Freezer64 works very welll for me but I suspect their cheaper Athlon 64 CPU cooler would be good enough and do a better job of cooling motherboard components. Depends on how militant you want to be about quiet. Of course, you'll definitely want a tube of Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound.
Seagate's 7200.8 300GB and 400GB drives rock. Tough to find a good price on the SATA version though. I'm using mine for HDTV PVR storage so I wanted the BIG drive. Ditto everything said about the Raptor.

Multiplier ? K8N Neo4 Platinum

Got this rig to POST the other night, installed W2KPro SP4, all seemed well. Last night I installed Prime, Sandra CPUZ etc. Parts are all still on the bench. I should mention that I'm using a $10 PCI Video card for posting, troubleshooting etc. I can only display in 16 colors. I don't know if this would make a difference. I started foolin around Ocing this thing, upped the FSB speed from 200 to 220, upped the CPU voltage up slightly, didn't fool w/any RAM timings or change anything else. The machine will boot to Windows, and CPUZ shows the overclock(220 10X). Given my CPU stepping and this mobo, I fully expected Prime to fail, which it did, promptly. I've read here that I can drop the multiplier to say 9 for example to reach a more stable OC that way. I just don't know how. I'm also unclear on Ocing the RAM, but perhaps I'll post on that later.Thanks
Present build
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
Athlon 64 3200+ (Winchester) CBBID
Artic Cooling Freezer 64 w/AS5
2X 512 Kingston Value KVR400X64C3
EVGA 6800GT
2X Seagate Barracuda 80G SATA HDDs
Antec 480 Neo Power
ASUS® P4PE Mainboard, (Intel®82845PE Chipset)
2.4Ghz Pentium® 4 Northwood core, @ 2.52Ghz
512Mb Samsung® 3200 400DDR RAM
ASUS® V8420 128Mb DDR GeForce® 4 Video card (NVidia Ti 4200)
Creative Labs Audigy® 5:1 Sound Card (OEM) w/ Firewire.
Happauge® PVR250 video capture card
2X Maxtor® DiamondMax® 60G HDDs, (7200 RPM 2 MB cache)
Lite-On® 16X DVD, Lite-On® 48X CDRW
330W Antec® Tru-Power PSU
Antec® PlusView 880 AMG Full Tower case, (painted, candy apple metallic blue).
Stock Intel® HSF, 5- 80mm case fans. Stealthed optical drives, subtle light mod.
PowerMac® G4 1.25GHz
Toshiba Satellite® Notebook 1.2 Ghz Celeron

set ram ratio to 166, as for the multiplier look for something called CPU ratio, also you probably need to drop the HTT down to atleast 4

Another K8N Neo4 Platinum Happy Build

Just built another setup using the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, 7125-010. The build went very smoothly and I am very pleased with the results. Used the following components:
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum 7125-010 came with Bios V1.A
MSI NX6600GT TD128E
1GB module of Crucial DDR400 PC3200 CT12864Z40B running @ 3-3-3-8 1T
Rosewill R203A Case
Rosewill RV500S PSU ( +3.3v=30a, +5v=45a, +12v=26a )
AMD64 3700 SD @ 2.211
2- 92mm Silverstone case fans
1- WD 40GB Sata HD
1- Liteon DVD/RW SHM-160P6S
1- Sony 52X CD-Rom
1- Sony Floppy
System Temp @ idle = 30c, CPU Temp @ idle = 33c, GPU Temp @ idle = 43c
I did notice some slight changes in the Bios setup features that have been added since purchasing the same board 2 months ago. MSI has very good products and I am very happy with the results of all 3 machines built in the last 18 months. Just wanted to post something on the positive side today.
:smiley:
Regard's; Pop's

Quote from: workknot on 29-December-05, 00:40:46
Just built another setup using the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, 7125-010. The build went very smoothly and I am very pleased with the results. Used the following components:
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum 7125-010 came with Bios V1.A
MSI NX6600GT TD128E
1GB module of Crucial DDR400 PC3200 CT12864Z40B running @ 3-3-3-8 1T
Rosewill R203A Case
Rosewill RV500S PSU ( +3.3v=30a, +5v=45a, +12v=26a )
AMD64 3700 SD @ 2.211
2- 92mm Silverstone case fans
1- WD 40GB Sata HD
1- Liteon DVD/RW SHM-160P6S
1- Sony 52X CD-Rom
1- Sony Floppy
System Temp @ idle = 30c, CPU Temp @ idle = 33c, GPU Temp @ idle = 43c
I did notice some slight changes in the Bios setup features that have been added since purchasing the same board 2 months ago. MSI has very good products and I am very happy with the results of all 3 machines built in the last 18 months. Just wanted to post something on the positive side today.
:smiley:
Regard's; Pop's
Yep I do like Neo4 plat After seeing the way the board runs, I try use them more on builds

MS-7125 K8N Neo4 Platinum NB fan speed

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