Ms-k8t Neo 2 Fir

I have problem with new MS-K8T NEO 2 FIR. I am using Athlon 64 3000+ and Kingston KVR400X64C3AK2/512 set of two 256 MB PC3200 CL3 DIMMs. If I put 1 DIMM in slot 2 and second DIMM to slot 4 (as recommended from MSI for dual channel) systems hangs after turning on with one greed diode (1) on D-bracket (early chipset inicialization). If I remove DIMM from slot 4 system boots up normally (to memtest86 from CD). If I put only one 512 MB Kingston PC3200 module to slot 2 system boots up but reporting only 256 MB of RAM. DIMMs are tested in other machine (Intel P4 3GHz) without any problem. What should I do ? What is wrong - board ar processor ? Please help !!!

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Hi
I think thats one up for the flashers vs the don't flash unless you have to lot.
Sad to say I am a flasher
Jocko
:-))ermmm You don't say, you don't say. is it true about the underneath of a kilt then.
Then you ask Tiresmoke. Quote "Does Clara know about this tendancy"
Might have known it would be you Hondo.
Kilts, as Daniel O'Donnell always says when he does a little jig in his , ' 2 pairs, to be sure, to be sure', but he would, He's Irish, just like that other immigrant boy in Pennsylvania, who's really a Scot, the one that Clara keeps trying to get a proper kilt on.
cheers
jocko
:lol_anim:Sorry jocko couldn't resist the temptation above and now also below that doesn't sound good, does it.
Let the wind blow high, let the wind blow low,
Through the streets in my kilt I'll go,
All the lassies say "Hello hondo
Donald, where's your troosers?"

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K8T Neo Fir won't post after live update to 2.0 bios

After running the Live Update which updated the bios to 2.0, I can't boot into XP (SP 1). I can boot in safe mode. Not sure how to get this running again. I've tried everything I can think of, any ideas on what I might try?
Setup was running fine prior to bios update.
XP SP 1
K8T Neo Fir
1 GB
Promise Sata Raid 1 - 2 80GB Sata drives
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I tried executing "fixboot" from the recovery console but this may have made things worse. After running this successfully, the console reported that it had written a new boot vloc on teh C partition in FAT32. The SATA drives are not formatted in FAT32! Now I don't get the Windows initial screen at all, it just goes back to the bios and restarts. I can still startup in safe mode though.
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MOVED: K8t neo fir front panel sound out?

This topic has been moved to AMD64 ATI/SiS/VIA based board.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=117772.0
Was in the wrong board.

Yes they need to be on if front panel is not connected as mentioned in the manual or you will not have have output at the rear connection. If front panel is connected you should have rear panel output if nothing is plugged in on the front panel output.
The jack acts as a switch, nothing plugged in, output to rear which will be the same as if jumpers were on.

[Athlon64] Electromagnetic Interference on my MSI K8T Neo 2 FIR MBO

I have a system built around a MSI K8T Neo 2 FIR Athlon64 3000+
Recently I've put a poratable TV near the PC (1.5 meters or so) and noticed quite strong interference on VHF TV channels.
First I thought that it came from the case itself, but I discovered that the interference practically dissapeared when I unplugged the PS2 keyboard.
So I thought that it was the keyboard and bought another basic PS2 Logitech one. No difference at all.
Then I bought a USB cheapo keyboard, only to find out that the interference doubled, at least.
I tested the interference with my TV, using the room "antenna", actually a coaxial cable plugged in the antenna socket of the TV with the other emd free, and the central vire just physically clamped with a metallic "crocodile" clamp. A loop on that side and this is the best room antenna money can buy!
I approached the end loop to the keyboard and its cord. I showed an extraordinary amount od unterference. the TV image turned to snow and the sound started hissing.
My guess is that the Keyboard acts like an antenna for the MBO and transmists interference to the outside, probably trought the voltage line.
Or I could have flawed keyboards, but tree... and PS2 AND USB!?
My power supply is not in question. I tried two, high quality ones of different producers - no difference at all.
Anybody had similar interference experience with this or other MSI boards?
Did you succeed to solve it?
I often read that LCD monitors are better for your health because they radiate less, but I tested my old CRT monitor, and it produces much less EM interference than my keyboards!!!
Any Ideas? Bad MBO?

What does that option "spread spectrum" do?
I have Bios 3.3 (I think), I will check if I have this option at all at reboot. I can't remember seeing it?
The interference is not affecting the monitor,which is LCD, but a small TV set, 1.5 meters away from the PC.
IT is not coming from the case (which has no transparent side) but from the keyboard(s) and keyboard wires (both USB and PS2 keyboards produce inteference).
I tested it precisely with a coaxial cable acting like an antenna with a looop at the end and a simple crocodile clamp fixed on the central wire (this produces a very ensitive antenna witch can precisely pinpoint the source of interference. When I approach the loop of he coaxial cable to the keyboard it produces strong "snow" on the TV image and a hissing sound (The TV is set to a local VHF TV station).
So I guess that the keyboard is acting like an antenna , leading interference from the Mainboard out.
I did a little search on the internet and it s amazing how many people with various computers have interference problems from keyboards.
Information comes mainly from radio amateurs who use computers to control sophisticated radio equippment and suffer interference in their reception.
I bet that many people have it and not being radio amateurs or not having a TV near their PC they are not aware of it. Many of you reading this probably have electomagnetic emissions emanating from your keyboards.
But what worries me in this story is that these electromagnetic radiations are not exactly healthy.
I bought a new LCD monitor precisely because I read in many magazines that LCDs radiate less than CRTs. But since it appears that my keaboard is radiating much more than my old CRT, it kind of defeats the purpose...
These things shouldn't happen because computer components, MBOs included, should comply with FCC standards (class B) and a keyboard should not act as an emitting antenna for electromagnetic interference from the mainboard. But it seems that many manufacturers are not really complying with EMI/RFI standards.
This seams to be a very weak point for many computer components, from what I saw on the internet after some Googling.
Some guy even tested all the computer equipment in his company and found out that 90% were not FCC standards compliant, even if they claimed they were !!!
Needless to say that I am not happy, and should it appear that MSI is to blame for my problem, they will hear from me.
I will try some other keyboards, some top of the line this time, made in Germany not in Taiwan. If they produce the same interference, then I will be sure that this is MSI's fault and that the interference is not produced in the keyboard itself but just transmitted to it from the mainboard.

My Unofficial K8t Neo Guide

Disclaimer: You try any and all troubleshooting at YOUR OWN RISK!!
Here is my unofficial guide to the K8t Neo fisr2 If you Like It give it a thumbs up so it will stick out. I will warn you it is long and I will edit off and on.
to add as needed.
first I'll start off with components,
CASE..you will need an atx case with good cooling a few extra fans like a blowhole at the top can help cooling, also bundle cables and power leads
so that they don't interfere with airflow.
MOTHERBOARD,...This is based on the K8TNEO series, when you attach it to your case make sure that is is mounted to risers to keep it from contacting case, they are usually small brass pins, also make sure that all the mounting screw are secure and in place, this will prevent the PCB from flexing and cracking as you install components, there should be around 9 or so screws, that usually go into the riser pins or raised case mounting points,don't forget to use those fiber or plastic insulated washers. These should be the only case contact point to the mobo other then the back plate with all the usb, net jacks etc..
Also use all of the mount points you can..if not you can crack mobo putting in cards etc...
CPU...Athlon64 processor2800+, 3000+, 3200+, or a 3400+, all 754 pin chips...k8neo CAN NOT USE FX chips or Opterons. 3200,&3000 are basically the same chip, same clockspeed of 2.0 ghz but the l2 cache is different 3200 1mb...3000 512k, you may not notice the difference in many applications but will see 2~10% diff in benchmark testing, the 3000 is usually about $75 cheaper
the 2800 is a newer model an a good way to get into 64bit without high cost.
PSU.... one of the most overlooked and most important component,
that old 300 watter you have from your old duron 800 don't even try.PSU's have caused a lot of trouble with a64 systems, they use a lot of power Get a good name brand psu if you can, and make sure it is at least 400 watts and has at the minimum of 20a on 12v, also look at combined total wattage
the psu must have a 20 pin connector and a 4 Pin( Square) Connector, and there is Only 1, Called the+12V 4 Pin Processor Connector.
some of the recommended brands are enermax,and antec.
Here is the reason most problems are the psu
amd64 uses 12v power, Intel chips used a lot of 5v power.
so until now most big psu's pushed 5 v not 12v
almost everything in your computer uses 12v except ram (3.3V)
AMD 64 and motherboard =12a @12V
so your already at 12A with no fan,s no hd, no CD,no DVD ,no mobo chip-set , no mem, no sound..etc
so what happens is your mem gets starved for power and then gives out errors,in your data, which = corrupt sata,or it fails to post. .
MEMMORY...Another big trouble spot,not just with the MSI board but with Via chip-set, and or the A64 memory controller.
DDR non ecc- single channel 400 is baseline although slower chips also work, The CPU's memory unit only supports 4 banks total so in order to use three sockets at least two of the memory sticks have to be 1 bank,.one bank or two bank chips look similar so check specs, dual bank chips usually have chips on the back as well. mem should match type and speed. if you run into problems try going into bios and limiting ram to 333.mem should match type and speed.
(edited out till i find more info [STRIKEOUT] if using two mem sticks it is best to use slots 1 and 3,[/STRIKEOUT])
edit :ok tiresmoke just replied so have a look. "One thing that often does not get addressed. I had a couple Blue Screens early on. Here is how I fixed it. I run my RAM in sockets 1 and 3. 1 and 2 gave a little instability.Yes I decided to keep mine in slot 1/3 but I did test in 1/2 since I changed Bios. Typically slot 1/3 can slow you down but it did not with mine so best to say that difference RAM will give different symptoms. Try combinations to find what works best for you."
LOL Keep in mind that Jocko uses 3 sticks of dual bank RAM and according to AMD they only support 4 banks total. Jocko has 6 so you do the math.
you can check msi's website for compatible ram, but be careful it can be confusing,
they list by part numbers,
but some known configurations that work are:
I would stay away from corsair xms mem right now many people have problems.
corsair and kingston owners may want to look here
AMD 3000+ systems...
BIOS 1.2
2 x 512 - Corsair CMX DDR400 @2-3-2-5
2 x 512 - Corsair Twin Pro DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
2 x 512 - Corsair Value Select DDR400 @ defaults
1 x 512 - Geil Golden Dragon DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6 (2.7V)
2 x 512 - Hynix DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Kingmax DDR433 @ 2.5-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Kingston DDR400 @ 3-3-3-8
1 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ (defaults?)
1 x 512 - Kingston ValueRam (KVR400X64C3A) DDR400? @ (Defaults?)
2 x 512 - Muskin Level 1 DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
2 x 512 - Muskin Level 2 DDR433 @ (defaults?)
2 x 256 + 1 x 512 - Muskin Basic DDR400 @ 2.5-3-3-8
1 x 1024 - OCZ EL DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
BIOS 1.3b2
2 x 512 OCZ EL DDR433 @ 2-3-3-7
AMD 3200+ systems...
BIOS 1.1
2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 1 Black DDR433 @ 2.5-3-3-6
BIOS 1.2
2 x 512 - Apacer DDR400 @ 3-4-4-8 (2.5v)
2 x 512 - Corsair Twin X DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
1 x 1024 - Corsair TwinX DDR400 @ 2-3-2-6
2 x 512 - Crucial DDR400 @ defaults
2 x 512 - Elixer OEM DDR400 @ defaults
1 x 1024 - GeIL GoldenDragon DDR400? @ defaults
2 x 512 - Geil Value Series 512MB DDR 2.5-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Hynix DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX KX DDR433 @ 2-3-3-8
2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ (defaults?)
2 x 512 - Kingston HyperX DDR400 @ 2.5-3-3-8
2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 2 DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5 (2.75V)
2 x 256 - Mushkin Level 2 DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5
2 x 256 + 1 x 512 - Muskin Basic DDR400 @ (defaults?)
2 x 512 - Twinx CLPRO DDR400 @ (defaults?)
2x512- Pny Verto DDR433 @defualts
AMD 3400+ systems...
BIOS 1.2
2 x 512 - Kingmax (MPXC22D-38KT3R) DDR400 @ defaults
2 x 512 - Mushkin Level 2 Black DDR433 @ 2-3-2-5
you may have to email you mem manufacturer and manually set timings and voltages to get your memory working.
HARD DRIVES......Here you have alot of choices, basically two categories, SATA and PATA(IDE). There are many brands and speeds, IDE drives come in different speeds, such as ata33, ata66, ata 100, ata 133 for hard drives, the 33,100,133, being theoretical maximum transfer rating MB/sec.
newer ata(IDE)hard drives are ata100 which is ultra 5, and ata133 ,ultra6 is ,
PIO mode is the standard data transfer mode without the ultra enhancements, the fastest being 16.66 mb/sec. ultra 2 is 33 mb/sec . So when i say my CD,DVD, and DVD are ultra 2 it means they transfer at a maximum of 33 mb/sec, and my Maxtor hardrives are ultra 6 and have a maximum transfer of133 mb/sec. my old zip100 transfers at a max of 16 mb/sec since its in pio mode. Note these are maximum speeds, my hardrive transfers more like 65 mb/sec sustained according to SIS Sandra.
That is why SATA 150 is such a big deal, vs say a Western digital ata100
SATA is a different interface all together and can transfers closer to its maximum
theoretical speed. BUT the pci bus itself is limited to 133 mb/sec so an add-on card
should never be able to reach over 133, regardless, of SCSI,IDE, or SATA
so on the k8t neo you have some choices. With the IDE you can use, IDE1,2, or 3
IDE1&2 are ata100. ) to attach use a 80pin round or flat cable, the first slot goes into the mobo, the middle connector is for a slave or should be left empty, use the end for master, or single drive. you must also setup jumpers for hd or cds.
The master is primary unit and the slave is secondary unit, for each channel.
Or use the Cable Select jumper and USUALLY the BIOS will select the drive for you.
IDE1 & 2 is ata100, or 133 depending on board if using for only 2 drives put them on different channels
...ie master on IDE 1, and master on IDE 2 . that way they will have maximum bandwidth. especially for disk to disk copies or burning
IDE3 RAID is ata133, or can be raid 0 or 1 by the promise chip. 0 being striped for performance,1 being mirrored for safety, mirror only protects hd from failure,not viruses,or corruption for that you need a backup or as i prefer a drive image program such as accronis trueimage..linux compatible.and Norton ghost.you will first have to enable the promise chip in the bios, then you have to load drivers by hitting F6 during windows installation, and insert floppy drive, yes you will need a floppy, at least for initial setup. If you want to set up raid you will have to do that first before loading windows,by hitting ctrl+F (read quick user's guide Serial ata raid, serial ata) only hd's can use ide3.If you don't have enough IDE slots you can add on pci card with one or two more headers for up to 4 more drives, I added a Maxtor ultra ata133, since i have 5 idehd's and 3 DVD/cds.
SATA, here you have two choices, use the Promise chip set or the Via. Either one or both can be set to raid0 or 1, see users guide to setup, You will also have to enable them first in bios, and F6 and load floppy drivers to use in windows install, or load drivers in windows if using an existing install. either chip-set can be set for raid, in the manual, opinions are that the Via is faster, but you wont have a HD LED activity indicator light, The promise will have a HD light, but is slightly slower.
Also note that SATAs don't OC as well as IDE hard drives, they can even crash and loose data.
always make a backup of your computer, and remember raid 1 does nothing for virus, or contaminated installs.
SOUND....Here you have a few choices, On board or Card, unfortunately not both, yet.(UPDATE Bios Version 1.5 and above will fix this)... If using a card there have been some issues with Audigy 1 cards, but there may be a cure in this threadhttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=46849&sid=( Moved to stickies) audigy2 and 2zs cards work fine as do turtle beach.
on-board sound is not as high definition and uses some CPU cycles, so a card might be advantageous to gamers.
REALTEK GIGABIT...Is the on-board Ethernet, you will need to load drivers once in windows, it has caused some problems booting, as it can be set to a boot device as well. you will get a message "failed to boot press any key."..then "ntdlr error"...to fix this you may need to hit the key combination during boot to set it up, it will bring you to a menu, you need to set boot order, i recommend setting it to bios, and you can adjust or disable message and time length it is displayed.
VIDEO CARDS- You should install an agp 8x directx9 video card for best performance. Ati has better directx support so is better for gaming, but Nvida has better OpenGL so if you want to do 3d in Linux, you have better luck with Nvida.
When you set up windows, install via 4-1 drivers first, then the video drivers, check video manufacturer's website for updated drivers. make sure any extra power leads are plugged in. In bios Agp should be fast write enabled, and
if you are using 1024 of ram aperture size to 256, but check 3dmark to see which setting is faster.
BIOS- NO BIOS INSTALLED This is a message that you see during boot up from the promise on-board raid saying that it found no drives attached to its SATA or IDE channels so it's not installed the BIOS.This IS NOT a problem or anything to worry about!
jumping Bios reset jumper, be careful, make sure power is off. jump it and return it to the original position. If you power on with jumper in reset position you can erase your bios...requiring a Return to Manufacturer Authorization(RMA)
I have had no problems using windows updating to the latest bios ,It cured some issues, such as firewire ports, sound blaster audigy1 troubles,tweaked temps displayed,and so on. but be sure to have a backup of original bios disk. I have heard new 1.8 beta bios cures Newcastle temp problems.
some good settings are.. SMART enabled this will warn you of hard disk failure,System bios cacheble and shadow ram are more for older computers and should be set to disable.boot to os2- disable...memory setting vary by card and some even need to be set manually so check with manufacturer or get familiar with cmos reset jumper.(just be sure to have power off)...plug and play os to disable(more of a win 98 thing) disable serials and parallel ports if you don't need them, as with on-board sound firewire etc. this is just a few pointers the rest is a more personal thing, but i have heard turbo setting causes problems and is best left to fast, and dynamic oc'ing is similar use at your own risk
USB keyboard don't forget to enable USB in the BIOS. This caused some problems when installing XP. Without USB enabled in BIOS when you come to the "Hit any key to proceed" the install will fail with the ntldr error
POWER SAVINGS...Having trouble getting fans or case lights to shut off on standby set to S3, then disable apm, and be sure to set a wakeup event..such as wake from usb, or keyboard command. I have agp boot disable, but depends on card.
Want to know more about bios, and what those settings are? click this link
http://www.rojakpot.com/(eb1mg5zatgcf5r55lv5no155)/default.aspx?location=9
CORE CENTER....Another personal choice, I like it and use it a lot, to increase and decrease fsb without going through bios. the NB fan sensor should read 0 unless you plug a fan onto it, personally i have an 80mm antec and it doesn't read it, but i tried a old CPU fan and it worked fine.
COOL AND QUIET Another personal choice, I don't use it because some people have had there CPUs power down in the middle of games, and such
(it goes down to 800 MHz) others had small bugs in there system that went away when they disabled it. But some like it and use it a lot. Good for energy savings.
want to get your boot time down
start by selecting OS drive as first in boot sequence, you can always change bios when you want to boot from floppy or CD(which isn't often).disable floppy drive seek
then clean out your startup folder under rt click explore start button.
try and get services set to auto down to about 25. defrag your hdrive routinely,
. ditch wall paper, and get rid of windows startup screen.(msconfig,boot.ini.and check noguiboot). keep your drivers updated
if you can find it you can use then try bootvis, but microsoft doesn't support it anymore.Programs ..some useful free utilities are listed below, check goggle, until i make links for them.
SiS Sandrahttp://www.sisoftware.net/, a good all around benchmark,burn in and, info display
3DMARK.http://www.futuremark.com/download/.Mostly a Video tester, good for checking OC though.
Microsoft Memory testerms memtester
+86memtest.http://www.memtest86.com/..and Prime95http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htmvery good mem testers, and tests for stability
spybot search and destroy, http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=homeand
Lavasoft's ad-aware http://www.lavasoftusa.comgot to have for house cleaning.
atitool, http://atitool.ocfaq.com/oc ap for ati cards,click find max core let it go for 15min or so,then set back to default, and click find max mem...for 15min or so, and now you have the max you can set your video card too.(but set safety limits before manually setting)
[STRIKEOUT]mbm5 mbm5 link good alternative temp readings to corecenter.[/STRIKEOUT]
good program but discontinued.
OTHER USEFUL PROGRAMS
Norton utilities, good all around disk and OS utility
Norton Internet secuirity, or similar firewall and virus protector
Norton ghost, or other drive image software fantastic for backups
BF1942...lol just fun
HOME NETWORKING I will add this part because of additional posing of errors
dealing with USB Broadband routers...try using on board realtek or other Ethernet connection it will save your sanity.
well i have a real poor mans router setup for you
2 Ethernet slots, one for for broadband router and one to share.
if you only want one other computer, use a crossover cable, otherwise, use a hub or switch(better) and let Internet connection wizard and home networking on your machines work their magic,want a firewall download some software there are even, fairly decent free ones.the speed of the card isn't important because broadband still isn't over 10mb/sec yet, so blow the dust off that card in the closet and put it to work.or if your really brave or really cheap you can try to use the usb input from broadband, and on board ether, or firewire port, to link computers
Trouble shooting
for total no boot/post failure
I know you may know how to build a computer, and i know this is basic, so bear with me here, but at this point you have to do a methodical by the book check list.
revision
A: when you first install your motherboard make sure it does not contact case,
use all nine mounting points, make sure that your case either has built in risers, or use the small brass standoffs, and don't forget the fiber washers.
when you installed your CPU you:
1 ___you properly handle equipment so no static damage can occur, (properly grounded)
2____.you fully lift the CPU ziff socket arm up, orient the gold triangle marking arrow,pins and it easily dropped into socket, with no bent pins ,
3 ___ backer plate mounted carefully no missing pieces of the board flying off, ( i have seen people launch capacitors, and the like )
4 ____obviously you removed the plastic thermal pad cover, and heatsink was evenly locked down, and fully seated, and correctly plugged into mobo cpufan1.
and you fully removed old thermal pad/grease and applied new artic silver, or new heatsink with plastic on pad,you didn't reuse old paste or pad.
memory
5 _____memory stick(not sticks, at this point you just want to get it working, not full blast with a gig of ram etc)is fully seated and properly oriented in slot, and is 184 pin ddr non-registered , non ecc ram , and you have tried different non corsair, non twinmoss, brands that have been known to work. and/ or
tried to set manually mem speed/voltage for some models of corsair, twinmoss, and kingston)
6.____ plug in only power switch pins 6,8and power led to jfp1, pins 2,4 and they are turned correctly,
7. ____your new psu has the 20 pin and square 4 pin power connector plugged in to jpw1 turned right and fully seated. and has a bare min of 18a on 12v+ rail.
8 ____your video card is fully seated an locked down,also securely screwed in.
9 ____your floppy drive cable iss facing right way (pin1 is matched with red stripe)
10. ____you have ata cables for hd and CD set to master/slave or cs. with hard drive set as master, end of cable.
11 _____the power plugs are all fully seated, including psu rear plug,floppy ,hd, and CD.
12. _____keyboard(ps2) and mouse plugged in, monitor plugged into video card,
13 ______every thing is fully secured in case, side cover is off.
14 ______CMOS jumper is set 1,2 keep data, all usb stuff is unplugged, except for dbracket.
power it up, one beep, fans spin, in psu and CPU, and video card,
you get no bios found error,(promise adapter not finding satas..no worries)
or hit Del to go into bios, set boot order, and .......
.........your now at the end of the road, and it should by all means work,
now what i am after,
there are no bent pins, on CPU, you reapplied artic silver paste.
no loose wires,
properly applied heat sink with fan cooling,
you have tried different brands of known ,to work in an MSI k8tneo
ddr ram 1 stick at a tme.
you have tried different video cards, and in case of higher end card, the external molex power supply as plugged in,
you have tried different ata hard drives
you then have tried have set up your SATA drive correctly .
everything is securely plugged in ..fully seated and oriented the right way?
what are d-bracket error light, and any beep codes?
you have tried a different wall outlet, you have changed surge protectors,
you never hot plugged video cards, hd cables or power etc.
i know this redundant , and basic , it is not meant to be insulting , it is meant to be a checklist and rule out all basic errors and potential problems
if your mem bandwidth is slower then 3000..like 2400 this may help
Received from a user - Slow memory 1T Command fix
OK, here's what to do. Download the following ftp://ftp.vector.co.jp/pack/win95/hardware/other/wpcrs120.exe extract it, and run InstDD.exe. It'll ask to reboot, you don't need to do it right away, at least I didn't have to. Fire up WPCRSET.exe and do the following. Under startup, click on start, and under device, click enable. Now click add. The bus device and function will be 0,24, and 2. The register and data values will be the 93,08. There we have it! Enjoy everyone. I know I'm much happier now.
Here's a graphic to make it easier:
I will add more by edit, or post as needed but i should post now so it can be put to use.
I would like to Thank BAS,wonkaboy, Jocko, ethereal, Tiresmoke, Reilly, and the many others whose valued input helps solve problems.

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amd 64=12a @12V
ati 9800=7.5~10.5a @12V (assuming 90~125 watts) a max load,
a 9600 ir nvida 5200 used far less power
so your already at 18a with no fan,s no hd, no cd,no dvd ,no mobo chipset , no mem, no sound..etc
If you exclude the motherboard, memory, etc like you did there, the amd 64 draws 7.2A @ 12V.
90~125W for an ATI 9800?! [irony]Are you working for a PSU manufacturer or what?[/irony] That's just absurd.
Go read this post to get a feel for the actual power consumption: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?postid=297061&sid=#post297061

Please help, k8t neo2 FIR problem when flashed

Hi, I had the system running fine untill I tried to flash it to 9.2. I wanted flashed it because I wanted to run my dual channel ram into it.(512 x 2)
When it deleted the old Bios I HAD A POWER CUT and the new bios wasnt installed.
Now every time I turn on my PC there nothing on the screen, no post.
I have tried using just one ram DIMM now, still the same.
Unpluged the HD, dvd drive and case fans still no sign of working.
Tried pressing insert key.
Tried without any ram, the motherboard doesnt even beep!
The 4 LED light on the D-bracket shows red.
My system is;
3200 xp venice
msi k8t neo 2 FIR
512 x 2 dual channel GEIL ram @ 400mhz
160 IDE Maxtor HD
leadtak FX5900
Sony dvdrw
Thanks in advance

Danny,
A power cut during a BIOS flash is truly a dreadful event (kiss of death). You have already tried numerous corrective actions with no success. You did not mentioned in your post if you attempted resetting your BIOS by using the jumper on your motherboard. If you have not give it a try before going to what I think you will be faced with.
If above does not work and you live in Europe ot the UK goto this URL and investigate having them force flash your BIOS ROM or by a new one as suggested: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=86809.msg621517#msg621517
If you live elsewhere it is likely more economical to buy a new motherboard as well as consider acquiring an APC if power is a problem at yourr location.
Good luck,

K8T Neo: Problem at power-on...

Hello!
Somehow I experience a strange startup-problem ... and I could really need some advice to resolve this issue as I'm out of ideas.
Last weekend I completely disassembled my rig for the annual "spring-time maintenance". I cleaned out dust, I cleaned the inside and outside of the case and I replaced my DVD-ROM and CD-RW drive with a LG DVD+/-R(W)/RAM drive. After everything was put together again I powered up my system - and it started to act strange.
Symptom: At power-on the system hangs at "Early Chipset Init" (D-Bracket 1-4: GRRR) and keeps on self-resetting. Several seconds (10-30) later the system starts to POST as expected and runs smoothly until ... power down.
During the night the system is completely disconnected from the power as it drains a lot of juice in stand-by (~12W for the rig + ~18W for several other external components like scanner, audio, ...).
What I've done so far to track down the error:
- Reseated power connectors. Nope - problem persists.
- Pulled all unnecessary components (just MoBo, CPU, RAM, GFX-card, Keyb). Nope - same prob.
- Pulled all memory sticks, left only one in the slot (and tried every other one). Nope - same prob.
- Cleared CMOS - Nope - same prob.
- Ran memtest86+. Showed no errors after 10+ passes.
Now I'm out of ideas ... except for the power-on problem the system runs just fine as before. No crashes, no malfunctions, no nothing.
Technical Data:
MSI K8T Neo FSR (BIOS 2.0)
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Clawhammer Core)
Zalman CNPS7000B CPU-Cooler
3x 512MB Kingston CL2.5 PC400 DDR-RAM (@DDR333 - 3 sticks = DDR333 only!)
NVIDIA GeForce 6600GT AGP (Power Connector is plugged in)
Highpoint HPT370A IDE Controller (PCI 3)
Hauppauge WinTV PCI FM (PCI 5)
Seagate 80GB SATA - Operating system
Hitachi 160GB - OnBoard Pri IDE, Master
LG 4167B - OnBoard Pri IDE, Slave
Maxtor 200GB - HPT370A Pri IDE, Master
Seagate 400GB - HPT370A Pri IDE, Slave
Maxtor 80GB - HPT370A, Sec IDE, Master
Tagan TG480-U01 480W PSU (3.3V@28A, 5V@48A, 12V@28A)
As I have a Wattmeter at my avail: After power-on and boot-up the system "sucks" ~315W (rig + monitor). If I put load on the system (CPU at full clock, GeForce displaying 3D) it drains ~390W.
As mentioned above I never had any issues with the system.
Does anyone have a suggestion how to resolve the rather annoying power-on problem ?!?
Thanks,
Jochen

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 06-April-06, 20:09:53
Did you checl and replace the CMos Battery? You may need to do a complete Bios Clear and start fresh there as well.
Also as the Optical drives changed did you try removing them one at a time and see if the system acts noirmally then?
Hello, Tiresmoke!
. I unplugged the PSU from the wall socket and removed the battery while clearing the CMOS. The CMOS Battery is OK - ~3.34V (reading from a Voltmeter - matches with the display at PC Health Status).
. I already took out the LG DVD-RAM drive and put the old optical drives back in. Even in its old "original" configuration the aforementioned problem persists.
. I already reseated the CPU and renewed the thermal compound.
However, I even get the "Early chipset" startup when the system is bareboned ... CPU + 1 memstick (doesn't matter which one out of the three I plug in) + Keyb + GFX. D-Bracket shows "Early Chipset Init", the boards goes through several reset-loops and fires up fine.
BTW: Maybe this will give some clue ...
. When I do a warm reset (reboot triggered by OS) the board restarts fine - Reset, POST, Boot.
. When I shutdown and disconnect power from the PSU, lets say for about 5 minutes, then reconnect it and power-on the "Early chipset init" shows up.
Are there any chances that the PSU is actually causing the problem although this particular problem never showed up before the "spring-cleaning"?
Thanks,
Jochen

MSI K8T-NEO won't post from a cold boot

Alrighty here is my strange problem. I have my system connected to a surge protector powerstip. When I power my machine down I also shut off the powerstrip which cuts wall power off from the machine. When I turn the power back on the and then fire up the computer every single time it will not POST on the first try. The drive lights cd-roms come on but the HD's never start. So I hold the power button in for 6 seconds, then hit it a second time, and it boots every time. Shutting down and restarting is no problem, so long as the power is never disconnected from the system.
Here is my configuration
MSI K8T NEO Bios version 1.2
Athlon 64 3200+ not overclocked
1 512meg stick of Geil Ultra PC3200 slot 1
1 512meg stick of Coarsair XMS3200 slot 2
memory is running at 333mhz 2-3-3-7 all setting are set to auto
Radeon 9500 in the AGP slot
Sound Blaster Audigy
Promise 100 TX4 Raid controller
2 WD 80 gig SE HD's connected to promise controller
1 Pioneer PD-115 16X DVD drive
1 Liteon 411-s I believe 4x DVD Writer
1 Zip Drive
Using AMD boxed CPU fan
Powered by an Antec true 430 +3.3V 28A +5V 36A +12V 20A
According to core center +3.3 is at 3.31V, +5V is at 5.03V, +12V is at 11.76V
So anyway its prime stable etc. But when ever the system has been powered off, and unplugged the first time I power on it always fails to post with the d-link indicator lights indicating a CPU failure. Hold down the power button and it reboots. Power the machine off, but don't disconnect wall power powers back on just fine.
This is strange, since I use the surge protector to turn off speakers, etc! Its also annoying, I used to have a MSI K7D-L Master 2xXP CPU's with the same hardware witht eh exception of the Geil RAM, and of course cpu, and mobo and never had any problems with a cold boot. any suggestions?

Yeah I tried having only one stick of ram in the machine, and it hangs on a cold boot when its been unplugged/or powersupply switched off. Reboot again and no problems. I tried just having the geil installed, and the corsair stick installed same problem. I have ordered a second Geil Ultra PC3200 stick so I'll have matched sticks and will be able to run at 400mhz FSB. The lack of a manual memory speed setting overide in the bios is frustrating. Yes I know the speed is more or less set by the CPU but there must be some override mechinism if you can slow it down....
I have also tried with just a video card installed, and one stick of ram to see if the problem would go away. No GO. One thing to mention is I had a Radeon 9700pro that I got from new egg refurbed that I had to send back becasue the card would not power on when the system was booted, unless you disconnected the power lead got the warning message, and then powered off and reconnected the power lead. Possibly this card may have damaged something else? OR the mobo was bad and damaged the card? The mobo was new, the ram (geil), CPU, and 9700pro were all refurbs. Everything else was from a previous dual processor system and was working fine.
Both of the Western digitals are set as masters and each are on their own seperate ide channels. The Promise FastTrack100 TX4, has 4 IDE channels and the HD's are connect to channel 1 and channel 2 on the FastTrack controller.
Specifically what happens is if the power has been off, I turn the power on, hit the power button. Lights come on, the cd-rom drives lights start blinking, fans come on, and I hear this kinda of poping sound out of the speakers like the kind of sound you get when you first power on the machine but it happens a second time about 2 seconds after powering on the machine, and it just sits in this kind of hung up state, hitting the reset button does nothing. Then I power off power back on and it POSTS, and back to normal. So long as the system is never disconnected from the power source while it is off, it will power back on the first time. This is really strange I've never had a system do this before. I'm beginning to wonder if I just have a bad/faulty board and ought to RMA it?

K8T Neo-FIS2R - won't post.

Hello friends,
specs:
K8T Neo-FIS2R
Athlon64 3200 (retail with fan)
two 512mb stick Corsair
1 36 gig SATA Raptor WD hdd
1 80 gig SATA WD hdd
Antec 430 w "TruePower" PSU
ATI 9600 pro
Sony optical drives.
Mitsumi 3.5"
buncha Antec fans.
So I got my new baby all put together and took a deep breath and started it up.
All the fans came on, hdds making hdd type noises, CPU fan a-spinning.
Nothing happens. Doesn't post. No video at all. The MSI usb/diagnostics dongle has all 4 LEDs shining, and supposedly that means the CPU is damged or not seated right.
Poop.
So I take it down, pull of the heatsink and look at the CPU. Looks good. Just to be sure I take it out, look for dust or damage or any abnormalities. Nothing. No physical defects on the CPU pins or the socket. Alright. I carefully put the CPU back, put the heatsink back on (Am I the only one who loves how the heatsink attaches? Bravo AMD!) and.....the same thing happens. I sigh loudly and commence with the near hysterical swearing. Girlfriend announces she HATES it when I build a new PC.
Tried all sorts of other premutations, one stick of ram, unplugging all periphs in different combos, pressing the power button while petting a monkey and eating fire. You name it, I've done it. Does anyone else abuse couch pillows?
You gotta let it out man.
I've probably inserted a few hundred CPUs into ZIF sockets over the years, so I'm 100% certain I didn't muss it up.
So before I RMA these little sweethearts (both the mb and cpu, because how can one tell if it's the socket or cpu?) has anyone else been down this road and want to give me the magic cure? Or maybe just a hug?
Much Thanks to you. Have a good weekend.

Hello Friends,
The Hynix dimms in several arrangements, no go.
I also, uh, borrowed some infineon from work. Tried in several configs, no go.
Samsung no go.
Enter: Despair.
As I sat and stared at the machine in sort of a "I just spent a lot of money and what do I have?" sort of way, mine eyes did fall upon the gleaming brand new Antec "TruePower" psu.
Mind you, I had a perfectly acceptable 450 watt. No problems at all with it. It was generic and cost 30 dollars. But in the quest for stability, nay, in the quest for the very computer bliss we all aspire to, I laid out my coinage for the Antec fancy schmancy model. I thought, "Time to go with a real name, a real psu." .
And here's where the story ends. I swapped out the psu, thinking at this point I was sort grasping at straws, and wham bam thank you ma'am, here I am sitting by my gleaming tiny god, my humming MSI K8T, all is forgiven.
Thanks for the help all. The corsairs all seem to to do their job. Antec apparently does not test their rather expensive "TruePower" psu.
Ironically, the brand of the no namish psu appears to be "Works", emblazoned proudly on it's side.
So if you think ram is ruining your life, stick a piece of crap psu in that rig and see.
There's only one thing left to say.
w00t!

K8T Neo won't POST, nor will it upgrade

Hey guys. I have a K8T Neo - Athlon64 3000+ - 1GB Crucial RAM (2 sticks) - Nvidia XFX 6600GT - 80GB WD Raptor (boot) - 250GB WD Caviar SATA - 2 DVD/RW - WinXP fully patched
Been running like a clock for about 2 years, till I decided to upgrade a little. I bought a 1GB stick of RAM to add to the existing 1GB, and to fill up all 3 slots. I also got another WD caviar SATA HD.
I was running 2 older IDE drives in a RAID config on the Promise 20378 (lower) chipset. I removed these and changed the BIOS setting to SATA instead of RAID for the Promise chipset, and plugged in the new WD Caviar. It was recognized in the boot sequence, but neither Windows, the WD disk tools, nor Partition Magic would recognize the drive.
Detaching and setting that aside, I installed the new RAM (in the correct configuration according to the manual.)
No more POST. The D-Bracket shows the "Early Chipset Initialization" and that is all. I moved the RAM sticks around, no results.
I now have the machine sitting in its original configuration, without the new RAM or HD. It won't POST. It either hangs in the "Early Chipset Initialization" stage, or it fires up for 2 seconds and then shuts right back off. Neither way will it get anything up on the screen.
Please help? Suggestions??? I have run through the troubleshooting guides, both on the MSI website & in the FAQs here on the forum.
Thank you.

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 17-November-06, 03:24:35
Will it fire if you remove the new stuff? You could have gone over what your PSU has power for.
Everything is out... I have a 420W power supply, and right now I am working on it with all of the new stuff out, as well as some of the old accessories (like a TV card) out. Just 2 HDs, 1 stick of RAM, and 2 CD/DVDs. I even pulled fresh power to it, using a large thick cord, from a different outlet from the rest of my PC stuff.

K8T Neo-FIS2R Disable Overclocking Completely!

ok so this is really startin to pee me off
ive got the latest BIOS for my K8T Neo-FIS2R (2.22 i think it is) and it seems to have no way to turn off the Dynamic Overclocking Technology (DOT) crap.
I have disabled cool n quiet, spread specturm and dynamic overclocking yet when my computer loads i have core centre loaded at startup, when i fire off a heavy app (something java'ish usually does the trick) the processor speed whacks itself up to anywhere from 3000-8000mhz and then drops back down to the lovely 2200mhz which it should be running at (its and Athlon64 3400+ chip) problem being i dont want it to do this - i want a stable system and this is causing me major headaches as there are short periods where it seems to almost freeze as the processor is changing from one speed to another
anyone any ideas on how to totally disable DOT before i ditch it and go back to a P4
thanks
ste

Check your BIOS revision with live update or watch the screen on boot up. Are you really using 2.22 or 2.18? If you are, try a BIOS version that isn't beta. Beta versions all end with a digit in the hundredths place, you should go for 2.0 as the jury is still out on 2.1 and 2.2. Get it here I'm currently stable at 1.9. Also, I'm still using Corecenter v1.6.0.0. I found that all of the newer ones (as of 6 months ago) caused a hiccup on speed changes and actually caused a little performance hit. If you want the old version of Corecenter I have, PM me and I'll email it to you if you can't find it elsewhere.

K8t neo2-FIR lock ups

hey i'm posting for my friend who recently got a new setup for his computer
antec 400W power supply
3200+
k8t neo2-FIR
sapphire radeon 9600XT
512 meg major brand ram
2 80 gig harddrives
onboard sound/lan
i'm not too sure of the psu specs
the computer (with latest driver updates) has a tendency of locking up where the screen will just go black at random periods
no matter the situation and we will have to restart it (we tried in optimizeed bios settings and default)
the computer when i was there ran fine in video games except for the locking up part
i'm not sure what the problem is nor does my friend any help is appreciated

Run Memtest86 and find out which RAM models he uses. Likely as not it is going to be part of the issue. See if you can read the lable on that PSU as well and find out how many amps are on the 12v rail.

K8T Neo F1S2R No Longer Boots - Help Diagnosing

Hello,
I've had good service from my K8T Neo Athlon 64 mobo for 2 years. Today when I turned on the PC, all the fans cranked up and nothing more. The four test LEDs stayed red. No beeps, no display to the monitor. The light on one CD drive (I have 2) and the HD light come on solid at power up. According to the manual, four red LEDs at power up indicates a bad processor or processor connection and nothing more.
I removed my Audigy sound card since I know it has been known to cause boot-up problems on these boards. Still no boot.
What I need to know is if this is most likely a bad processor as stated in the manual, or something else like a bad mobo or power supply (Enermax). I don't have a spare processor, 64 bit PC, nor power supply to swap and check, so I need to know what is the best step process to resolving the problem. I'd just hate to go out and buy a new processor to find out the problem isn't the processor.
Thanks!
Buddy

UPDATE: Kudos to MSI support! I RMAed my original failed, over 2 year old K8T NEO via the MSI online support system. Shipped the K8T back to MSI on 4/11 and received a replacement on 4/26. It took only 11 business days, east coast to west coast and back.
I was having stability issues with the new K8MM-V motherboard described here https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=95656.0
in that I was unable to run my Radeon 9800 Pro at "full" hardware acceleration without crashes. I could only get stability using the onboard graphics or setting the Radeon 9800 to "low" hardware acceleration (the setting next to "none").
Pulled out the K8MM-V and installed the warranty replacement K8T NEO. The replacement K8T booted flawless, only requiring reinstallation of the Radeon 9800 Pro's Omega drivers on the first boot. I've had flawless performance with hardware graphics acceleration set at "full" with no reboots or blackouts since.
It was easy as pie to execute warranty service with MSI.
A big thank you to MSI for their fine support and for providing this forum....and a just as big thank you to all the fine folks here for offerering their expertise and help to us novices.
Buddy

How to install a fresh copy of windows xp with sp2 on a msi k8t neo

My specifications:
CPU: AMD ATHLON 64 - 3000MHZ
MOTHERBOARD: MSI K8T NEO
RAM: CRUCIAL MICRON 1024MB DDR
HDD: WD 120GB ( C: 60GB, D: 60GB )
HDD: SEAGATE 4GB ( E: 4GB )
DVD: NEC 3520
CD: SONY
The system is on drive C:
primary master HDD 4GB ( on drive E: )
primary slave NONE
secondary master CDR DVD-RW
secondary slave CDR SONY
and last HDD 120GB on primary raid ( on drive C: and D: )
NONE on secondary
I have 2 floppy disks: on the first one it says G72-PRSA060, Promise 376/378 Driver, Disk 1 of 1
on the second one it says G72-VASA040, VIA SATA RAID Driver, For VT6420/VT8237, Disk 1 of 1
Can please someone tell me how to install a fresh copy of windows xp on my computer from scratch? All I know that I have to press F6 at some time and insert one of the disks but I don't know which one. And I don't know when to insert a second disk.
Thanks for helping me

Yeah. I remember when I had that board. I found the best SATA ports were the Promise ones, but...
What do you think, Tiresmoke? You had the same board too if I'm not mistaken.

MSI K8T Neo2 FIR, need help installing drivers

Hi there,
I need help with installing drivers. Here’s my setup:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Mainbord: MSI K8T Neo2 FIR (VIA K8T800Pro)
OS: Windows XP Professional, SP2 installed
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
I updated per MSI Live Monitor, but when I run ‘dxdiag’, I says I have to update the ‘VIA standard host bridge’. I don’t know what this is or where it can be found. It could be I saved the updated drivers in the wrong file (F:\ Program Files\...) where F is my primary harddisk and the drivers should be saved in F:\Windows\ System 32.
Also, my hardware setup tells me there are two videocards 'installed': a Radeon 9600 Pro and a radeon 9600 Pro (secundary). Do I need to de-install the secundary one?
Here’s a piece of my most recent dxdiag:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
System Information
Time of this report: 5/22/2005, 10:22:20
Machine name: UIWDC2ARUPUS49X
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch)
System Manufacturer: MSI
System Model: MS-6702E
BIOS: Version 07.00T
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 285MB used, 2687MB available
Windows Dir: F:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
DxDiag Notes
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were successful.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found. DirectPlay test results: The tests were cancelled before completing.
DirectX Debug Levels
Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
Display Devices
Card name: RADEON 9600 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI RADEON 9600 Series AGP (0x4150)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4150&SUBSYS_000217EE&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (16 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug en Play-monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6546 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/4/2005 04:28:54, 226816 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n.v.t.
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 5/4/2005 04:28:34, 1133056 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0210-11CF-CC6D-0820A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4150
SubSys ID: 0x000217EE
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.
Sound Devices
Description: Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10061102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: P17.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0314 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 6/4/2004 10:27:46, 840960 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative Technology Ltd.
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 96000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 63
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 63
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run
Sound Capture Devices
Description: Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: P17.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0314 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/4/2004 10:27:46, 840960 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF
DirectMusic
DLS Path: F:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI-mapper (emulatie), Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Creative SoundFont Synth (emulatie), Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth (emulatie), Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: All tests were successful.
DirectInput Devices
Device Name: Muis
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Toetsenbord
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK
USB Devices
+ USB-hoofdhub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1106, 0x3038
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Lower Filters: vulfntrs
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 9/7/2001 14:00:00, 4736 bytes
Gameport Devices
PS/2 Devices
+ Standaardtoetsenbord (101/102 toetsen) of Microsoft Natural PS/2-toetsenbord
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/4/2004 00:55:30, 53760 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 00:57:18, 25216 bytes
|
+ Toestenbordstuurprogramma voor Terminal Server
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:03:48, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 00:57:18, 25216 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant Wheel Mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC03D
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c03d
| Upper Filters: LMouFlt2
| Lower Filters: LHidFlt2
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 9/6/2001 19:04:40, 12288 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 00:53:38, 23552 bytes
| Driver: LHidFlt2.Sys, 12/17/2003 09:50:00, 25505 bytes
| Driver: LMouFlt2.Sys, 12/17/2003 09:50:00, 70801 bytes
| Driver: Logi_MwX.Exe, 12/17/2003 09:50:00, 19968 bytes
|
+ Stuurprogramma voor muis van Terminal Server
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:03:48, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 00:53:38, 23552 bytes
DirectPlay Service Providers
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: The tests were cancelled before completing.
Registry: OK
DirectPlay Adapters
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: LAN-verbinding 2 - IPv4 -
DirectPlay Voice Codecs
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s
DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
Drive: C:
Free Space: 65.4 GB
Total Space: 76.3 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST380011A
Drive: F:
Free Space: 56.7 GB
Total Space: 78.2 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Maxtor 6Y080L0
Drive: D:
Model: LITE-ON COMBO SOHC-5232K
Driver: f:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/3/2004 22:59:54, 49536 bytes
Drive: E:
Model: LG CD-ROM CRD-8521B
Driver: f:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/3/2004 22:59:54, 49536 bytes
System Devices
Name: VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_B188&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&08
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\VIAAGP1.SYS, 5.01.0000.3442 (English), 7/2/2003 04:42:00, 27904 bytes
Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_7282&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&07
Driver: n/a
Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_4282&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&04
Driver: n/a
Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3282&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&03
Driver: n/a
Name: VIA Standard PCI to ISA Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3227&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&88
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (Dutch), 9/6/2001 18:20:18, 36352 bytes
Name: VIA USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3104&SUBSYS_70201462&REV_86\3&61AAA01&0&84
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 26624 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/4/2004 01:03:24, 76288 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:03:12, 7168 bytes
Name: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_702D1462&REV_46\3&61AAA01&0&70
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:10:10, 61056 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:10:08, 53248 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:58:30, 61824 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:58:30, 60800 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 23:46:40, 6400 bytes
Name: VIA Rev 5 of later USB universele host-controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_70201462&REV_81\3&61AAA01&0&83
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/4/2004 01:03:24, 76288 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
Name: VIA Rev 5 of later USB universele host-controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_70201462&REV_81\3&61AAA01&0&82
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/4/2004 01:03:24, 76288 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
Name: VIA Rev 5 of later USB universele host-controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_70201462&REV_81\3&61AAA01&0&81
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/4/2004 01:03:24, 76288 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
Name: VIA Rev 5 of later USB universele host-controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_70201462&REV_81\3&61AAA01&0&80
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/4/2004 01:03:24, 76288 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_2282&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&02
Driver: n/a
Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_1282&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&01
Driver: n/a
Name: VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_70201462&REV_06\3&61AAA01&0&78
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\viaide.sys, 1.00.0001.0001 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:44, 5376 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/3/2004 22:59:42, 25088 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:44, 95360 bytes
Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0282&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&00
Driver: n/a
Name: Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10061102&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&30
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/4/2004 01:03:14, 4096 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/4/2004 01:03:38, 130048 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/3/2004 23:15:22, 140928 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:08:00, 60288 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 23:15:50, 145792 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (Dutch), 8/3/2004 23:08:04, 48640 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:03:40, 23552 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\CtDvInst.dll, 0.00.0000.0008 (English), 7/25/2003 11:35:48, 131072 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ctoss2k.sys, 5.12.0001.0172 (English), 9/22/2003 02:47:38, 178672 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ctsfm2k.sys, 5.12.0001.0172 (English), 9/22/2003 02:48:06, 130192 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\sfman32.dll, 5.12.0001.0130 (English), 8/17/2001 08:35:46, 36864 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\sfms32.dll, 5.12.0001.0172 (English), 9/22/2003 02:51:52, 172032 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\ct2mgm.sf2, 9/22/1999 09:18:00, 2167684 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\P17res.dll, 5.12.0001.0308 (English), 3/29/2004 04:02:48, 136704 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\P17.dll, 1.00.0001.0029 (English), 4/8/2004 04:37:40, 60928 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\P17.sys, 5.12.0001.0314 (English), 6/4/2004 10:27:46, 840960 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Pfmodnt.sys, 3.00.0000.0003 (English), 3/5/2003 12:19:28, 15840 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\A3d.dll, 80.00.0000.0003 (English), 4/11/2002 03:41:06, 65536 bytes
Driver: F:\WINDOWS\system32\P17CPI.dll, 1.00.0000.0002 (English), 10/2/2003 12:48:18, 53248 bytes
Name: Ethernet-controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8169&SUBSYS_702C1462&REV_10\3&61AAA01&0&58
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1103&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&C3
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1102&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&C2
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1101&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&C1
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1100&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&C0
Driver: n/a
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Help would be very much appriciated, thnx!

The two vis.cards issue is normal, it sees the primary output (VGA) as a device and the TV-out a separate device.
Go to device manager to see if there's any device on ur rig that doesn't have drivers.
Did u install the 4-in1 drivers, get the latest version from the MSI support site.
good luck.

Ms-k8t Neo 2 Fir

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