MSATA or SATA III Drive

Hello,
I currently own a T420-4177CTO with a 160GB SSD drive and am running out of space. Without taking any covers off I believe this is installed in the main bay underneath the unit. After some research I believe I have a couple of options. One would be to simply upgrade the existing SSD to a larger SATA III 512GB SSD in the same slot, which as I understand it is SATA III capable -about $500.00. Second option would be to add an mSATA drive to the available slot on the side of the unit ( not the ultra bay) and move mostly storage files to that new drive - about $260.00. The read / write speeds look to be similar but the power consumption for the mSATA is higher and it might be a bit slower. My guess is that it will be faster than the current factory installed drive so that should not be a concern. Are those assumptions correct ? If so should I take the opposite approach and move the operating files to the newer drive ?
Thanks.

Your current SSD is a Intel 520 if i am correct, since Lenovo offered intel ssd in the 160 gigs capacity. If it is the Intel one, then your mSATA will be slightly slower in terms of boot up (by 1 or 2 secs at most), and other data bandwidth intensive apps.
For normal use mSATA and 2.5 inch SATA is about the same.
I am currently on a mSATA 128 gigs and 500 gigs hdd in the main bay, and the performance difference compared to a pure Intel 520 that i had before is minimal.
Regards,
Jin Li
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Last edited by Gnarl (2012-05-22 14:43:20)

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