MSI 560Ti HAWK GPU Temperatures Diablo 3

Hello,
I have a 560Ti HAWK GPU running stable at MSI factory settings with -75 core voltage from MSI Afterburner. I am running Win 7x64 with all updates to date. The video driver installed is the WHQL 310.70 from geforce.com. I have a quad core [email protected] GHZ and 4GB DDR2@800MHZ. The motherboard is an Asus Maximus II Formula. The BIOS of the GPU is 70.24.21.00.00 (P1040-0050). I recently flashed the bios with one sent to me by an admin on the site because it had the high memory issue. Flashing the BIOS only affected the memory temperature issue, the GPU temperature remained the same as before flashing.
The GPU gets very hot while playing Diablo 3. Monitoring the temperatures with GPUZ and MSI Afterburner it shows about 89 Celsius with a max of 92. The case is very well ventilated and in other games it does not get over 75. I run Diablo at 1680x1050 with everything on high, AA on, Vsync on, Max Foreground FPS 60.
To test the temperature and the sensors i ran MSI Kombustor for 45 minutes, with OpenGL 3, PostFX on, 8xMSAA, 1680x1050 fullscreen, and the max temperature was 85 Celsius. The heat coming out of the card felt pretty much the same from when playing Diablo so I can conclude that the sensors are working as they should.
I tried performing a clean install of the drivers and also uninstalling the game. Also I changed the TIM on the GPU about a week ago, it now has Coolink Chilaramic, but the temperature in Diablo didn't improve. Even after changing the TIM the temperature remained the same for other games.
What else can I do to lower the temps in Diablo 3, is the game more GPU intensive than MSI Kombustor?
Thanks

Quote from: Svet on 24-December-12, 23:38:48
Yes its possible
what PC case you use? do you have enough space inside and proper airflow?
have you tried tried MSI VGA drivers for the card?
I have an Antec P182 with 2x120mm intake and 2x120mm exhaust fan with decent cable arrangement. I tried the latest MSI drivers for my GPU, 306.97 but the temps are the same in Diablo.

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First of all I want to say "Hi" because this is my first post here!
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AMD Phenom 2 X4 955BE
Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4
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You are welcome to contact MSI technical instead. >>How to contact MSI.<<
seeing that you decided to give up before having any responses.
You are still welcome to open a new topic if you so wish, with a less antagonistic approach.

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Quote from: rodez on 25-June-11, 16:22:00
No one can suggest if the card is problematic?
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Hey guys!
specs:
cpu: i5-2500k
ram: 16gb g-skill ddr3 ram
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powersupply: 750w (can't recall brand right now)
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Hey Svet, Sadly we don't have access to another computer to test on, I'm going to pop down to our local pc store tomorrow to ask if they can test it for us.
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after reseating and cleaning the case up a bit the card doesn't reach 80degrees while playing games or running furmark - it does still get to about 75-78. after some more testing and playing around (Forcing it to go above 80 by turning the fan down still causes the card to have issues.)
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Quote from: ajmads on 22-February-13, 10:19:04
I had an amd card so before i plugged in the 560 i removed the amd drivers.
So, i installed the drivers, rebooted, and the card was deactivated by windows. Device manager gave me this:
Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)
So, i tried installing the drivers, went into safe mode, and used driver sweeper on my drivers. Rebooted to the same white lines and tried reinstalling the drivers to the same problem.
In many cases, if you switch from AMD to Nvidia, you need to reinstall the OS.
(your OS might be messed up now).

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hello guyz...
i want help regarding my graphics card
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Quote from: Svet on 10-October-11, 21:01:50
Also see here as well if you want to reapplty the TIM, which can help with underload temp:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=152048.msg1129107#msg1129107

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OC core clock up to 1000MHz gives similar results.
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No! Nvidia controlpanel was set to max perfomans and windows power options to high perfomance.
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Afterburner 2.3.1 monitoring window says max core clock 1000
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Good Day ...
I have had my pc for around a month now and have noticed that while folding and gaming ... I am hitting between 75 and 87 degrees with the fan profile never going lower than 80% ...
My question is ...
Are these temps still in a safe range and if I change cooling will it void warranty ?? ... (looking at the Arctic Extreme 2)
Also ... What is that little switch and 3 pin connector on the top of the card ...
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i5 2500K @ 4.8Ghz on air ... (stable)
Thermalright Silver Arrow (CM Fusion400)
8gb Corsair Vengeance
GTX 560Ti Hawk
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All information would be greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards.

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Are these temps still in a safe range and if I change cooling will it void warranty ?? ... (looking at the Arctic Extreme 2)
Temps listed are in safe range, if you change the cooling yes this will void the warranty.
You can try to reapply GPU's thermal paste and to retest, also ensure that you have enough room inside PC case along with good and enough airflow.
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Also ... What is that little switch and 3 pin connector on the top of the card ...
It is switching between 2 different vBIOSes, one is performance one and other is silent one.
It's related to FAN behavior

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I see you are helping people with a custom vBIOS? What is the change that you are doing and is it basically cosmetic or does it have a deeper function. For instance, is the high memory temperature reported by MSI Afterburner correct? Can it cause the computer/vid card to bug out/shutdown? Does your update hopefully fix that?
Where can I find my serial number and why do you need it? I looked through the faqs and couldn't find this info.
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I'm also having problems with my memory temp reading abnormally high. 560ti Hawk.
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no that's official updates.
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Quote from: darkhawk on Today at 06:59:52
What were the temps when it was just sitting there? Or playing a game?
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Left 4 Dead 2: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/540654888597907475/3237F5F487BFC563F11CD7B8E6B39BCA703B0451/
Sanctum: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/540654888597587196/F624849A1BF8669F9C92660F91496C222F3620DF/
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You got me wrong, respectively I left out a step in my logic. I could find out what's wrong with it on my own and I would find the cause, fair enough, and I didn't rule out that I wouldn't do it. What I meant was that in case it turned out to that the clocks were too high in its out-of-the-box state, I would not be satisfied with the product, considering that I would have dished out the money for this card only to have it clocked down. That's what I meant with counterproductive. Yeah, probably the wrong word indeed but you get the message.

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