MSI 6315 and RAM above 512 Mb

Hi,
I recently had to have my old pc's motherboard replaced. The old one was an MSI 6199VA and I had 768 Mbyte RAM installed. The manufcturer told me it was impossilble to get a 6199 motherboard as it was too old, so he installed the MSI 6315 one in place. HE says the motherboards are so old they are not manufactured any more, so the 6315 was his best choice.
However, on booting the computer I have seen that it is only able to detect 524 Mbyte out of the 768 I had previously installed. I have read the motherboard manual and I think for the comments there that the 6315 model does not support more than 512 Mbyte. It is however not totally clear to me.
Is this correct ? Does the 6315 motherboard only support 512 Mbyte ? If so, is there any way I can configure it to go over the theoretical limit imposed ?
Thanks a lot in advance

Hi
According to the motherboard specs posted on the msi support page, your motherboard will only recognize 512 meg of memory. I know of no way to make the motherboard see more since it is a chipset issue. See link below for the spec page where you can get manual and cpu support information.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=14

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