Msi 648 max motherboard

I am looking for wiring connection info. in particular on JR1, JFP1, JPW1, JBT1.
are the wires to JR1 single or multi connections?
on JFP1 there are 3, 2 pin connectors. grn/blk= power sw
wh/blk reset sw and red/blk HDD LED
There are no directions in the manual of in which direction these connections go. pin no's are not marked on the wire connectors.
I am not able to locate the wires for JBT1
I also have a set of (2)+5v-D+-D-and gnd and I don't know where they go. They are not listed in the manual.
on the top left of the MB there is a square connector for a 12v connection that runs the CPU. I am not able to find the wires for that either.
This is the first computer I* have rebuilt in 6 years and I am a bit rusty.
If anyone can help that would be great
Thanks

Thanks, appreciate your help.
hanne333 :]
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Originally posted by Hanne333
on JFP1 there are 3, 2 pin connectors. grn/blk= power sw
wh/blk reset sw and red/blk HDD LED
It doesn't matter for the Power Switch and Reset Switch connectors. Most cases have a 3-pin connector for the power LED; hook that to the 3-pin header on JFP2 if you have it, and the green wire usually goes on the side towards JFP1. I don't remember which way the HD LED connector goes, but you won't hurt it by hooking it up backwards; if it doesn't work, just reverse it.
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on the top left of the MB there is a square connector for a 12v connection that runs the CPU. I am not able to find the wires for that either.
The board should run fine without it. It doesn't say so specifically in the manual, but it has been an optional connection on every board I've seen so far.
--Barry

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