MSI 6600GT Freezing

Alright, so I came accross this site and decided to check out if there was anyone else having the same problems as me. Much to my suprise, or maybe not, there were a lot of people with this problem or a similar one which I am about to explain.
I built this computer a month ago:
WindowsXP Pro Service pack2
AMD64 3000+
k8n-neo4 motherboard
audigy 2 soundcard
MSI6600GT pcie
580 watt psu
80gb hd
and 2 drives
11 fans total..
Ok, so I hook up my computer and install bf1942 to test it out. right when I start it up, BAM it freezes. I restart, installing ut2k4 and testing that out, BAM, it freezes right on the menue screen like bf1942. I go install all the necissary updates for my computer and install the newest patches for both games. Yet, once again, my computer freezes at both menu screens. I install XIII, I am able to play it for a few hours but then it freezes. I install Prince of Persia and am also able to play it for a few hours but it too began to freeze soon after. I have tried reinstalling windows, getting different gpu driver versions and even types (like omega and things like that, not just Nvidia drivers.) But to no avail.
I'm currently running the card under the 78.01 drivers by Nvidia (I know they're new and probably crap, but I just got them because nothing else worked...and ofcourse those didn't work either.) . The gpu runs about 50c at idle, which is pretty hot, and then gets up to 56 or so in games. Hot, but not enough to freeze...especially at menue screens.
One interesting thing to note is that any demos I play will work. Right now I play the bf2 demo and don't have any problems what so ever. I also played a bunch of demos that came with the card including black hawk down and some other crappy game. The point is, it seems the 3 demos I've played run fine...but all full version games crash.
Any help would be much appreciated and sorry if this has been a topic I have only repeated once more upon a stack of the same.
-Gannon

Quote from: crull on 06-September-05, 11:38:50
Those temperatures are well within reason and actually are pretty good...so I doubt it's heat related. Have you checked out your IRQ usage?
One thing about BF1942 also...it will crash if your refresh rate is not 60Hz. The only way around that is to edit a text file in the game. I'm not sure if you know about that though.
Have you tried running any of the 3DMARK tests like 2001, 2003...2005?
It sounds like it could be a hardware conflict or IRQ conflict of somekind or even chipset drivers....something along those lines. I would suggest trying a a full run of 3Dmark first to see how the card handles it.
Did you ever consider that maybe it's not the video card at all? To play those games you need memory and the CPU also...maybe the memory timings are set too tight or the CPU is overheating.
crull, thanks for getting back to me.
First off I am running my monitor at 60hrz so that should be no problem in b1942. no, I have not run the 3d marks on this machine yet...but I will. Also, I have used both ram and cpu stress testers and pass both...my cpu does not overheat and niether my RAM. I'll get back to you when I run those tests...

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Help Please MSI 6600GT Freezing In Games

hi i have a pentium 1.8 1g ddram 120 gig HDD and iv recently bought this card yesterday and its been freezing alot mainly in games iv updated to latest drivers but it still freezes and i get a error blue screen file nav_display or something like that error and i had to reboot by pressing button and windows gave me these links
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/response.aspx?SGD=1ff62710-32d7-456b-9cea-c54fc9e2706e&SID=11
can anyone help please ? fustrating buying a brand new card and it crashing like this ..

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What card was in it before.
PSU specs and more details on your system please.

I modded my MSI 6600GT AGP

I took my MSI 6600GT AGP all apart to mod it. I thought I would share what I found out in case anything wants to mod theirs also.
I didn't want to flash the bios for the temperature, so I attached this probe to the GPU.
http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SEN-CNU-001
The bridge chip uses a thin foil thermal pad, which I replaced with Artic Silver Ceramique. The GPU heatsink uses what I think is a thick thermal compound, it didin't come off like a pad. It might also have some silver content because of it's grayish color. There are four approx. 1/16" white thermal pads for the memory.
I don't think both of the heatsinks are copper. Because when I removed the heatsink I could see in the threads of where the support arms get screwed into and it wasn't the same color as copper. I think they are copper colored anodized aluminum or maybe even copper covered aluminum if that is even possible. My best guess is they are not copper. The color is slightly wrong to be true copper.
To take the main heatsink off.
You need to press down slightly on one side of the back support bar and swing if off of the post. If you look at the support bar both ends are different. One side has little metal nubs that need to clear the post to swing it off. The other end is shaped like a C and just rides on the groove in the other post.
After you take off that bar, there is another flat bar that has a pad in the middle to protect the components. That bar just lifts straight up and off the posts. Remember which way you took it off, it is very important. The components make litte dents in the pad. So putting it back on the exact same way fits the components in the same dents they made when the bar was first installed.
Once you have both support bars removed, you need a flat screwdriver to unscrew both posts from the heatsink. At this point I don't believe the heatink is attached anymore to the board even with the posts still attached. Once you take off the posts flip the card over holding the heatsink as you do so. I gently twisted the heatsink and it came right off. You need to unplug the fan at this point.
I took four copper slugs around the size of a penny, and thinned them down to get the right height of the pads. The pads were removed to be replaced by the copper slugs. It took a very long time to do this. I would take one and rest it on the memory. Then I would use a small straight edge ruler to test the height with the GPU. The copper slugs have to be at the same exact height or slightly lower then the GPU or the heatsink will not make proper contact with the GPU.
What I found by doing this is, without having the support bar on the video card the GPU is not on a flat plane to the memory chips. So thinning the slugs down the right height was hard to do because of this.
Once I got the slugs down to the right height I used Arctic Silver thermal epoxy to glue each one to the memory. After that I used the Artic Silver Ceramique on the GPU and on the copper slugs. Then I attached the thermal probe with a little dab of Artic Silver Ceramique on the tip to contact the side of the GPU. I used double sided thermal tape to stick the probe to the board and to the area on the side of the GPU.
I then re-attached the heatsink in the reverse order I removed it. I checked under the heatsink with a light and everything looked like it was making good contact.
My idle temp with the probe is around 34C, stressing the card with benchmarks the highest I have seen it is around 55C.
The copper slugs didn't really gain me all that much overclocking the memory, but that could just be the memory has reached its limits. The copper slugs will probably help the memory last a little longer then the pads. I wouldn't suggest using the slugs to anyone. It is just too much work, a lot of risk and doesn't really gain you anything.

Quote from: akeer on 16-February-05, 18:17:49
fw off, agp set to 4x.... many times tried this with various drivers (also setting the 2d and 3d speed to the same and many other trix...)
also tried to unplug devices... no help.... as I said if I help the cooling with really biiiiiiig fan underneath the card, it will not freeze... but 12cm fan at full speed generates looooooots of noise ))
it seems that aftermarket cooling (e.g. Zalman vf700cu) is the only solution
thanx and have a nice day
Here is something I just thought of. There are a lot of components on the board. There might a possibility one of them is not working very well when it heats up.
The GPU could also be overheating, but you have to understand something here.
The 6600GT has automatic core slowdown if it gets too hot so how could you have damaaged it? If you didn't put on enough thermal compound or the heatsink wasn't tight enough the core would slowdown to protect itself from heat damage.
If it was damaged by heat going by everything I know so far, it would probably only be damaged in the first few seconds right after you turn the computer on, but even then that would probably only happen if there was no heatsink attached at all.
Another thing to consider. I have an idle temperature of around 34C using the probe, the internal temperature would be slightly higher so lets say it's around 40C. The highest load temperature I have seen has been around 55C with the probe, so lets say inside its around 60C inside.
Those temperatures using the stock heatsink are very good. So what I am saying is even if you get a new heatsink, it might lower the temperature a bit on the card...but I doubt it will help with any heat related problems your describing.
If that stock "heatsink is on correctly" it should be more then enough to keep the card cool.
Maybe you should take the chance and flash the bios so you can see the actual internal temperature of the card. At this point it really doesn't matter because you can't return it anyway, but there is always a slight risk flashing a bios.
There is a forum here that will explain flashing the bios if you decide to do it.
http://www.mvktech.net

Issue with MSI 6600GT

I recently bought an MSI 6600GT for my system. My system is a AMD Athlon 64 3000, MSI RS480M2 motherboard, 2x 512MB RAM, Enermax 365 PS, UATA 133 HD, and Hauppage MCE150 PVR. I had previously been using the builtin video (now disabled) with no issues. Ever since adding the MSI 6600GT I've have an issue where after playing a 3D game awhile (30-60 minutes generally) I'll get a total freeze or a BSOD complaining about nv4_disp.dll. I'm using the latest drivers from nVidia. Typically when playing the gpu temp is around 80-90C as reported by both speedfan and the display properties (which shows it as either green or barely yellow). It seems to be heat related; however, it doesn't appear over spec so I'm thinking the gpu is deffective in that it's way over sensitive to heat. I can't think of any other reason for this.

Quote from: cpenney on 13-May-05, 10:34:59
I recently bought an MSI 6600GT for my system. My system is a AMD Athlon 64 3000, MSI RS480M2 motherboard, 2x 512MB RAM, Enermax 365 PS, UATA 133 HD, and Hauppage MCE150 PVR. I had previously been using the builtin video (now disabled) with no issues. Ever since adding the MSI 6600GT I've have an issue where after playing a 3D game awhile (30-60 minutes generally) I'll get a total freeze or a BSOD complaining about nv4_disp.dll. I'm using the latest drivers from nVidia. Typically when playing the gpu temp is around 80-90C as reported by both speedfan and the display properties (which shows it as either green or barely yellow). It seems to be heat related; however, it doesn't appear over spec so I'm thinking the gpu is deffective in that it's way over sensitive to heat. I can't think of any other reason for this.
You can always try to install a new fan search the forums for info, also what psu do you have?

New Build using MSI 6600GT 256 PCI-E no Display

Hi all,
Please offer some advice and help me out please.
Just finished a new build.
Intel l775 p4 3.4 ghz on an Asus P5AD2- E Premium board, using MSI 6600gt 256mb PCI-E video card. 2gig Ram
Done plenty of AMD builds using AGP cards so this is a little different for me!
Have finished putting it all together.
Upon power up for the first time im getting no output to monitor?
card has Svideo out and two DVI conectors, im using an anoloug monitor using the DVI to anoulge converter thingy that is supplied.
Monitor just displays no input detected, monitor is fine as works on old system..
Many thanks
Andy

davidfrisby,
This thread is two years old, and no one replied.
Open up your own topic and we can go from there.

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum or MSI 6600GT PCI-E ?

Dear Sirs,
I've just bought a MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E and
Motherboard MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum.
I Think that one of these is defective bacause WinXP
can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old
drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
I think that i've tried almost everything and this
card only works badly with VesaSave driver (Generic
Windows driver).
Could a defective video card works ?
Is it possible that the problem is the Motherboard ?
Any idea ?
Help me please,
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MSI 6600GT PCI-E or MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum ?
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MSI Kt6 and NEW Msi 6600GT AGP will not boot up!

My Girlfriend's computer.
I put this new video card in today MSI 6600GT AGP .For the 2nd time.
It frezzing up at startup on this screen....
"GO TO SET UP ...Press F11 , F10 ,Tab: LOGO Ckecking NVRAM..."
I rma the 1st one . Now 2nd 6600 Gt card samething.frezzing up too.
This time I put it in my PC, MSI K8T Neo, 3000 64 processor (Socket 754)
It worked Great!!!
6600GT power cord is hooked up.
So it must be the motherboard?
The 6600Gt card box
MIN.System Requirements ,On the MSI BOX
DOESNT SAY ,You might need to Flash your BIOS!!!!
Ive never flash a bios,To SCARY!!!
MSI KT6 Delta-FISR ....5.10 bios
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G

Hello!
Don't think you have to flash the BIOS. Nor do I think there is a problem with the mobo.
Two main reasons for boot problems are:
PSU with not enough grunt - please say something about it.
Memory timings are too tight - don't have any special or ultra settings.
The power cable has not been attached to the graphics card - don't know really if it is needed but I think so.
Please note that a weak PSU might not reveal itself til the power cable is connected.
About flashing BIOS, if you use the LiveUpdate program that came on the MSI install CD, it is no more trouble than upgrading any driver. But please make sure you get the right BIOS, and that it solves the issue you got.

MSI 6600GT making small fuzzy squares

I have an MSI 6600GT 128 mb (NX6600GT-VTD128E) video card which I purchased about 1.5 years ago. Last week while playing Far Cry my screen got alot of little fuzzy squares (see picture links)
http://www.dallssite.org/pic1.JPG
http://www.dallssite.org/pic3.JPG
http://www.dallssite.org/pic2.JPG
I exited the game and my desktop was normal as well as many non-graphic intense programs where also normal (Word, Excel, internet, ect.) I opened Microsoft Flight Simulator and got the same result only where there are involved or moving graphics.
I uninstalled far Cry and have the same result, I installed the newest driver from Nvidia and also the same. Has this happened to anyone before, is there a way to solve it or should I just by a new card ( I am not opposed to that). Any help would be appreciated.
I should also let you know that I have not OC'd the card and this happened even if I start the game after the PC has been on for 2 minutes or 2 hours, so I don't think that heat is now an issue.
Regards,
dreinert

Quote from: dreinert on 11-September-06, 12:03:20
Well I uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers and I still have the same problem. I think I am going to buy the MSI 7600GT, what is the warranty on that card does anyone know?
I installed rivatuner and see that my Temp is at 64 C is that a high temp to have while just having that internet open?
Thanks for all of your help.
dreinert
folow Task514 advice. probably VGA overheating due failure VGA FAN failure. they usually break down due 3-4 moutnhs totaly stop. and need to be replaced. consider replace GPU FAN, or better entire VGA Cooling.(with new heatstick).
"Temp is at 64 C is that a high temp to have while just having that internet open?"
well that is idle temp, when GPU enter in full load its gain much higher. and active cooling is sensitive at high load. for NV43 Chip due his 0.11 manifacturer process is little hotter(use more Vcore). you need temp logger to determinate it (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=100831.0) or observing temp in real time in full GPU load.(this can be done with Ati Tool http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4109 , start program, run scan for artefact and leave it for 30minutes and observe real temperature at high load same time)

MSI 6600GT AGP standard clock speeds?

Ok, I got coolbits installed. Opening the tab for the first time, The "no overclocking" button is selected, 2D is selected along with core clock set at 300 and memory clock at 900. I DO NOT have the "apply these settings at startup" selected yet.
I cannot find anywhere in the owners manual what the standard core and memory clock settings are supposed to be for thing. Can anyone tell me?

Quote from: Trailryder on 14-February-05, 01:32:15
Thanks Richard, I'll try those.
Ok, just a sec, the core is 500. The ram on it is DDR. When you say 1000 for the ram clock speed that means I actually set the clock speed to 500, right? Setting it to 1000, because of DDR, would actually make the speed 2000. Is this right? Or does the actual setting slider not take into account the DDR(2x)?
You set the number to 2 times the memory clock speed. If you bring down the menu to 3D, it should be 900Mhz which is the default for the MSI. If you were to overclock it you would set it to 1Ghz, which is 100Mhz higher. The MSI card should be able to handle that with no problems. The memory is rated for 1Ghz. Once your start going over 1Ghz your starting to really overclock the memory. Most of the MSI cards should be able to do at least 1.1Ghz.
I have had two MSI 6600GT cards. The first card could do 1.17 on the memory stable. The second card can do only around 1.14.

Msi 6600gt Agp + Win Xp

Hey guys,
Just brought an msi 6600gt agp and it is awsome...
Having a bit of trouble with the D.O.T software.
It seems that i have enabled it, i try to change the core and memory speeds and
save settings. I log out of xp and log back in to check if the setting have saved
and they have. But, everytime i restart the computer it just goes back to the
default settings. Is this normal?
The other thing is if i use o/c tools like coolbits, can i still enable d.o.t so that my
card is not clocked when i'm on my desktop surfing?
Thanks in advance,
Pooki3

oops..
sorry i didn't make my self clear. I also unticked the d.o.t feature and bumped the
core and memory.. saved it and restarted the computer again...
It just goes back to defaults again...
Anyone got the same issue?
Pookie

MSI 6600GT AGP running HOT!

Hi guys,
i did the "enable temp monitoring" BIOS mod on my MSI 6600GT AGP video card and it worked fine. But now i'm a little bit concerned about the high temp readings i get. Idle temps are around ~55°C and ~81°C while playing games. Look at the attached pic.
Is this to high? What are your MSI 6600GT AGP temps?
BTW: System is rockstable, no crashes and no visual artifacts. I've used "RivaTuner" to log the temps: http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/

Here`s my max temp for MSI NX6600GT agp.
Yours seems a little high. Maybe you need more ventilation. I removed my HSF and applied artic silver 5. Also removed the thermal pads off mem chips--they caused the HSF to not sit flat on GPU.

MSI 6600GT AGP - Measured fan voltage

I wanted to know exactly what was going on with the fan on my MSI 6600GT AGP so I measured the voltage. The fan runs at a constant 12 volts even under load. No matter what temperature the card is the fan runs at full rpm's.
I'm not sure if this a change from earlier revisions, because this is my second 6600GT. The fan on the first one seemed to vary the fan speed going by what I heard, but I never had a chance to actually measure it. So I could be mistaken and it also was running at full rpm's all the time.

Quote from: Glenn on 27-February-05, 07:49:55
I had the exact same thing happen with my X800 but in reverse, the one I currently have seems to vary fan speed, I can tell at startup, the fan is pretty loud, at first I thought it was my burner but after investigation, I see that it is my card. My son has the other one and it runs constant, but it isn't much louder as I remember. He has case fans that are louder.
For me, it's a no care item. That may be a different story for you.
I'm glad it is running constant because if it wasn't I was ready to mod it. It's not loud at full voltage either so its better all around IMO.

MOVED: How to set AGP so my MSI 6600GT (AGP) is stable?

This topic has been moved to Overclocking and Modding Corner Forum.
How to set AGP so my MSI 6600GT (AGP) is stable?

Quote from: jlpicard1412 on 27-February-05, 07:08:30
OK, that's the question .... how do I make my system stable if I overclock the CPU and want the graphics card stable too ... boils down to the AGP clock ... what do I need to do ... motherboard is K8T800 Neo 2 .... what about Cell Menu settings?
Tried using 3dmark2001 and 03 ... neither worked.
I thought standard AGP was 66MHz .....
JLP
Yes standard is 66MHz.
I did a little bit of research on your motherboard as far as I know it has AGP spped lock. Which means no matter how you set the speed of your CPU, the AGP should always stay at 66Mhz. There might be a manual override in the bios to raise it higher then 66, but you don't really gain anything raising it higher then 66Mhz.
I also read your motherboard might have problems keeping it locked at 66Mhz. So you might want to check to see if they have released any bios updates.
Most nVidia cards will work fine with higher then 66 so your problems might be something else. I'm not saying to set it higher I'm just saying they usually don't have problems running on a faster AGP bus.

[GeForce 6] overheating msi 6600gt card

hi all,
ive had my msi 6600gt for about 4 months and for the past 3 days its been acting funny, lagging games so i cleaned out my pc and updated the drivers but its still the same. while i was cleaning the graph card i noticed the fan is quite hard to spin round, unlike my processor and case fan which spin easily. i thought i would check the temp in my nvidia display.
heres what i see
core slow down threshold 127c
gpu core temperature 84c
ambient 59c
thats with only this screen running, no other applications are running. the heat shoots up over 127 if i try and play guild wars or moh. i think i have an overheating prob can anyone confirm this and what should my temperatures be. thankyou
everything is at its default settings as i dont tweak anything, i get whatever it gives me. dont forget that its been doing this only for 3 days.
i,m a noobie technician with pcs but heres what i can find about my specs
intel pent 4 3.00ghz
msi gt6600 128 mb graph card
creative sound blaster live 5.1
2.gb 333mhz ram
80gig hd

ive had the fan on and both doors off and here are the readings while the room fan was running
while running guild wars gpu= 59
ambient = 43
while not running anything gpu= 46
ambient= 36
i have to point out that the earlier readings that u said were sky high were with the pc with the doors already off, i usually dont have the doors on. plus i have had only lagging effects for 3 days

Flickering in MSI 6600gt VTD128

Hi,
I have some problems with 6600gt AGP card i just bought.
1. I notice constant flickering (i don't know how to name it precisely) when playing games (any game). If i move the mouse slowly, i can notice flickering on the top of the screen, looks like the lines are drawing up too slow. Even if the fps is >80 in far cry or 40fps in Half life. It's killing me :(
2. Far cry has too much lightning in the game. I'll upload the screenshots if you need them.
2. There's no fog in Prince of Persia: Sands of Time. If "fog" is enabled in options, i don't see anything on the screen. If i disable it, everything is just fine.
Tested with the both cards i bought (MSI 6600gt VTD128)
Please, help me solve at least the first problem.

refresh overrides helped my eyes greatly. thanks most of the flickering has gone, at least my eye does not notice them. moreover, i can enjoy watching movies in lower resolutions.
but i still have problems with the light effects. could it be a problem with my memory? just tested it with memtest and got 2.4 GB/s in dual pc2700 mode with my celeron-d! that's really frustrating :( i think i need to upgrade my cpu and psu.
by the way, any hint to disable fast writes on Neo2-PLS? couldn't find the option in bios.
thanks again for the reg file.

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