MSI 6600GT Temp sensor install "how to" ?

Got all my new Thermaltake fans in today. I now have a ton of unused temp sensor probes. Was wondering if there's a "How To" out there somewhere on how to properly install one of these things on my Vid card.The fan controller I got handles 4 fans and will monitor 4 different temps.

Quote from: Trailryder on 17-February-05, 01:44:04
I've also read that the temp shown by the card bios is way off and probably why nvidia didn't enable it.
It is MSI that did not enable it not nvidia.
Because there are a lot of other 6600GT's that have it enabled by default. MSI left it disabled.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_6600_gt_agp_roundup/page19.asp
The 6600GT GPU is the same on all the cards, so I think it is accurate. For some strange reason MSI decided not to enable it, maybe they thought no one would care.
If you could do the flash with no risk I say go for it. There is a risk though. You can pretty much minimize that risk as long as you have a cheap PCI video card to start the computer with if something goes wrong, and you have your bios set to start PCI VGA first. I couldn't save my video card for two reasons. I don't have a cheap PCI graphic card, and my bios was set to start from AGP first. I never expected my computer to not start from the bad flash. I thought it would start, and I could at least get to the floppy drive to restore a backup which it wouldn't do.
Now that I have the probe attached to mine, I see no reason to flash the bios. It gives me real time temperature, and I don't have to start any software to see what the temperature is on the card.
If you already have a probe, and you don't have to buy anything then I would use the probe. It has to be a very thin probe to fit between the heatsink and on the side of the GPU. It can't be any higher then the GPU. You should also use some nail clippers and clip as close as possible all aorund the tip. You also want to put a small drop of themal compound on the tip that touches the side of the GPU. I use double sided tape to stick mine to the board and to the area around the GPU so it doesn't move.

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MOVED: How to set AGP so my MSI 6600GT (AGP) is stable?

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How to set AGP so my MSI 6600GT (AGP) is stable?

Quote from: jlpicard1412 on 27-February-05, 07:08:30
OK, that's the question .... how do I make my system stable if I overclock the CPU and want the graphics card stable too ... boils down to the AGP clock ... what do I need to do ... motherboard is K8T800 Neo 2 .... what about Cell Menu settings?
Tried using 3dmark2001 and 03 ... neither worked.
I thought standard AGP was 66MHz .....
JLP
Yes standard is 66MHz.
I did a little bit of research on your motherboard as far as I know it has AGP spped lock. Which means no matter how you set the speed of your CPU, the AGP should always stay at 66Mhz. There might be a manual override in the bios to raise it higher then 66, but you don't really gain anything raising it higher then 66Mhz.
I also read your motherboard might have problems keeping it locked at 66Mhz. So you might want to check to see if they have released any bios updates.
Most nVidia cards will work fine with higher then 66 so your problems might be something else. I'm not saying to set it higher I'm just saying they usually don't have problems running on a faster AGP bus.

How to verify which temp sensor is reading which component

I am currently using speedfan with my K8N Neo Platinum and I cannot tell which temp reading goes with which sensor. How can I determine which sensor is reading which so I can label each of them?

my temp readings with speedfan 4.21 and bios 1.5. all temps are full load.
temp1 33c
temp2 44c
temp3 54c
temp1 for me is the nb for sure. temp2 is the cpu and temp3 is i have no clue. it varies between 53 and 54c not dependent on load. nb temp is confirmed with a case temp sensor at the base of the zalman passive heatsink and verified by touching teh heatsink. temp2 is for sure cpu cause it goes down to 31c at idle. as for temp3 i've felt around my mobo for hotspots and i can't really find anything hot cept for the little regulator below the 20 pin connector. thouhg it's certainly not at 54c it very well could be 45 based on finger touching. oddly enough with bios at 1.5 the 54c was much lower as i don't remember the flames. i flashed to a couple of different beta bioses only to find them unstable so i went back to 1.5 and the flames remained from the beta bioses. but as i said they weren't there before i tried the betas.
oh and harddrive is reading 38c not that it's relevant.

I modded my MSI 6600GT AGP

I took my MSI 6600GT AGP all apart to mod it. I thought I would share what I found out in case anything wants to mod theirs also.
I didn't want to flash the bios for the temperature, so I attached this probe to the GPU.
http://www.bestbyteinc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SEN-CNU-001
The bridge chip uses a thin foil thermal pad, which I replaced with Artic Silver Ceramique. The GPU heatsink uses what I think is a thick thermal compound, it didin't come off like a pad. It might also have some silver content because of it's grayish color. There are four approx. 1/16" white thermal pads for the memory.
I don't think both of the heatsinks are copper. Because when I removed the heatsink I could see in the threads of where the support arms get screwed into and it wasn't the same color as copper. I think they are copper colored anodized aluminum or maybe even copper covered aluminum if that is even possible. My best guess is they are not copper. The color is slightly wrong to be true copper.
To take the main heatsink off.
You need to press down slightly on one side of the back support bar and swing if off of the post. If you look at the support bar both ends are different. One side has little metal nubs that need to clear the post to swing it off. The other end is shaped like a C and just rides on the groove in the other post.
After you take off that bar, there is another flat bar that has a pad in the middle to protect the components. That bar just lifts straight up and off the posts. Remember which way you took it off, it is very important. The components make litte dents in the pad. So putting it back on the exact same way fits the components in the same dents they made when the bar was first installed.
Once you have both support bars removed, you need a flat screwdriver to unscrew both posts from the heatsink. At this point I don't believe the heatink is attached anymore to the board even with the posts still attached. Once you take off the posts flip the card over holding the heatsink as you do so. I gently twisted the heatsink and it came right off. You need to unplug the fan at this point.
I took four copper slugs around the size of a penny, and thinned them down to get the right height of the pads. The pads were removed to be replaced by the copper slugs. It took a very long time to do this. I would take one and rest it on the memory. Then I would use a small straight edge ruler to test the height with the GPU. The copper slugs have to be at the same exact height or slightly lower then the GPU or the heatsink will not make proper contact with the GPU.
What I found by doing this is, without having the support bar on the video card the GPU is not on a flat plane to the memory chips. So thinning the slugs down the right height was hard to do because of this.
Once I got the slugs down to the right height I used Arctic Silver thermal epoxy to glue each one to the memory. After that I used the Artic Silver Ceramique on the GPU and on the copper slugs. Then I attached the thermal probe with a little dab of Artic Silver Ceramique on the tip to contact the side of the GPU. I used double sided thermal tape to stick the probe to the board and to the area on the side of the GPU.
I then re-attached the heatsink in the reverse order I removed it. I checked under the heatsink with a light and everything looked like it was making good contact.
My idle temp with the probe is around 34C, stressing the card with benchmarks the highest I have seen it is around 55C.
The copper slugs didn't really gain me all that much overclocking the memory, but that could just be the memory has reached its limits. The copper slugs will probably help the memory last a little longer then the pads. I wouldn't suggest using the slugs to anyone. It is just too much work, a lot of risk and doesn't really gain you anything.

Quote from: akeer on 16-February-05, 18:17:49
fw off, agp set to 4x.... many times tried this with various drivers (also setting the 2d and 3d speed to the same and many other trix...)
also tried to unplug devices... no help.... as I said if I help the cooling with really biiiiiiig fan underneath the card, it will not freeze... but 12cm fan at full speed generates looooooots of noise ))
it seems that aftermarket cooling (e.g. Zalman vf700cu) is the only solution
thanx and have a nice day
Here is something I just thought of. There are a lot of components on the board. There might a possibility one of them is not working very well when it heats up.
The GPU could also be overheating, but you have to understand something here.
The 6600GT has automatic core slowdown if it gets too hot so how could you have damaaged it? If you didn't put on enough thermal compound or the heatsink wasn't tight enough the core would slowdown to protect itself from heat damage.
If it was damaged by heat going by everything I know so far, it would probably only be damaged in the first few seconds right after you turn the computer on, but even then that would probably only happen if there was no heatsink attached at all.
Another thing to consider. I have an idle temperature of around 34C using the probe, the internal temperature would be slightly higher so lets say it's around 40C. The highest load temperature I have seen has been around 55C with the probe, so lets say inside its around 60C inside.
Those temperatures using the stock heatsink are very good. So what I am saying is even if you get a new heatsink, it might lower the temperature a bit on the card...but I doubt it will help with any heat related problems your describing.
If that stock "heatsink is on correctly" it should be more then enough to keep the card cool.
Maybe you should take the chance and flash the bios so you can see the actual internal temperature of the card. At this point it really doesn't matter because you can't return it anyway, but there is always a slight risk flashing a bios.
There is a forum here that will explain flashing the bios if you decide to do it.
http://www.mvktech.net

Where to place external temp sensor?

I have a MSI 845 Ultra (6398) MB with a PIV 2Ghz processor and I have just changed case to a ThermalTake XaserII 6000. The case came with an external temp sensor that "can be placed anywhere". The reason I changed case was that my temp readings was very high (CPU Idle 50C, stressed 72C, MB 40C idle, 46C stressed, HD0 62C, HD1 48C).
The XaserII 6000 comes with 5 fans and I now have the following readings: CPU 45-50C idle, 58-62C stressed, MB 31C idle, 35C stressed, HD0 35C and HD1 28C.
I managed to get the temps down substantially with the new board but I still think that the reading for the CPU is a bit high and since I understand that there are issues with MSI temp readings I thought that I would use the external temp sensor with the CPU and see what happens. The questions is where to I put the sensor (under the processor, between the processor and the heatsink (bad idea?), attached to the heatsink) to get the most accurate/true reading?
The XaserII lets me control the CPU speed (high, medium, low) and the question is shall I do this manually or shall I leave the CPU speed control to the board or to a program like SpeedFan?
Any input is higly appreciated.
Hans

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MSI 6600GT making small fuzzy squares

I have an MSI 6600GT 128 mb (NX6600GT-VTD128E) video card which I purchased about 1.5 years ago. Last week while playing Far Cry my screen got alot of little fuzzy squares (see picture links)
http://www.dallssite.org/pic1.JPG
http://www.dallssite.org/pic3.JPG
http://www.dallssite.org/pic2.JPG
I exited the game and my desktop was normal as well as many non-graphic intense programs where also normal (Word, Excel, internet, ect.) I opened Microsoft Flight Simulator and got the same result only where there are involved or moving graphics.
I uninstalled far Cry and have the same result, I installed the newest driver from Nvidia and also the same. Has this happened to anyone before, is there a way to solve it or should I just by a new card ( I am not opposed to that). Any help would be appreciated.
I should also let you know that I have not OC'd the card and this happened even if I start the game after the PC has been on for 2 minutes or 2 hours, so I don't think that heat is now an issue.
Regards,
dreinert

Quote from: dreinert on 11-September-06, 12:03:20
Well I uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers and I still have the same problem. I think I am going to buy the MSI 7600GT, what is the warranty on that card does anyone know?
I installed rivatuner and see that my Temp is at 64 C is that a high temp to have while just having that internet open?
Thanks for all of your help.
dreinert
folow Task514 advice. probably VGA overheating due failure VGA FAN failure. they usually break down due 3-4 moutnhs totaly stop. and need to be replaced. consider replace GPU FAN, or better entire VGA Cooling.(with new heatstick).
"Temp is at 64 C is that a high temp to have while just having that internet open?"
well that is idle temp, when GPU enter in full load its gain much higher. and active cooling is sensitive at high load. for NV43 Chip due his 0.11 manifacturer process is little hotter(use more Vcore). you need temp logger to determinate it (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=100831.0) or observing temp in real time in full GPU load.(this can be done with Ati Tool http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4109 , start program, run scan for artefact and leave it for 30minutes and observe real temperature at high load same time)

Where are the K7N2 Delta temps sensors located?

Where are the K7N2 Delta temps sensors located?
Okay I know one reads from the diode... altough the reading still seems to be low compared to other diode readers (like the 8K3A+ which gives you readins in the 50's).
Where is the other one located?

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BusinessObjects.msi not found when installing BOE R3 FixPack 1

I'm building a new R3 environment on a windows box. I can successfully install the base R3 package without error. Everything works, deploys, etc. When I try to run the installation for FixPack1, I get prompted to browse to the BusinessObjects.msi file. I think the install tries to find the msi from the base install in a temp folder, but it is no longer there...cleaned up for some reason.
Has anyone come across this? Any ideas on how to perform the FP1 installation without the BusinessObjects.msi file being available? Is there a local security policy that might be controlling the purge of the temp folder after the base install is complete?
Any ideas would help.
Thanks!

Just curious can you extract the file with winrar and then install. I haven't run across your particular error but that has resolved other issues for me.
Regards,
Tim

Issue with MSI 6600GT

I recently bought an MSI 6600GT for my system. My system is a AMD Athlon 64 3000, MSI RS480M2 motherboard, 2x 512MB RAM, Enermax 365 PS, UATA 133 HD, and Hauppage MCE150 PVR. I had previously been using the builtin video (now disabled) with no issues. Ever since adding the MSI 6600GT I've have an issue where after playing a 3D game awhile (30-60 minutes generally) I'll get a total freeze or a BSOD complaining about nv4_disp.dll. I'm using the latest drivers from nVidia. Typically when playing the gpu temp is around 80-90C as reported by both speedfan and the display properties (which shows it as either green or barely yellow). It seems to be heat related; however, it doesn't appear over spec so I'm thinking the gpu is deffective in that it's way over sensitive to heat. I can't think of any other reason for this.

Quote from: cpenney on 13-May-05, 10:34:59
I recently bought an MSI 6600GT for my system. My system is a AMD Athlon 64 3000, MSI RS480M2 motherboard, 2x 512MB RAM, Enermax 365 PS, UATA 133 HD, and Hauppage MCE150 PVR. I had previously been using the builtin video (now disabled) with no issues. Ever since adding the MSI 6600GT I've have an issue where after playing a 3D game awhile (30-60 minutes generally) I'll get a total freeze or a BSOD complaining about nv4_disp.dll. I'm using the latest drivers from nVidia. Typically when playing the gpu temp is around 80-90C as reported by both speedfan and the display properties (which shows it as either green or barely yellow). It seems to be heat related; however, it doesn't appear over spec so I'm thinking the gpu is deffective in that it's way over sensitive to heat. I can't think of any other reason for this.
You can always try to install a new fan search the forums for info, also what psu do you have?

HD7950 temp sensor always zero + auto fan always 100%

After installing new card and latest CCC software and drivers as soon as windows starts, the card fan goes to 100% even at idle. In Performance section of CCC GPU temp reads 0c at all times even under load.
Tried uninstall CCC, remove card, re-install card and then CCC, no dice... same problem. I can manually adjust the fan speed in CCC but it's a PITA and shouldn't be necessary.
Do I have a faulty temp sensor perhaps?
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Quote from: flobelix on 26-November-12, 13:46:47
Obviously either driver isn't correctly installed or it's indeed a sensor misreading caused by a defect.
Remove current driver in safe mode using>>Driver Fusion<<. Reboot and install latest MSI driver:
Thanks for the suggestion. Gave it a whirl but still the same deal. Temp 0c - Power 0% - Activity 0% - Fan 100% from the moment Win7 starts no matter what the card's doing.
Only thing I didn't follow to a T from syour suggestion is that the free version of Driver Fusion said it required upgrading to Pro to remove all driver items even in Safe Mode.

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Can anyone tell me how to tell if my HDD temp sensor
is connected, or if it's connected correctly, or anything
would Help.
I've connected a new SSD and HDD in my late 2009 iMac 27,
everything seems to be working OK, I just want to make susure this HDD
temp sensor is hooked up right before I put the LCD. and glass back on.
I'm using an external monitor to test everything as I go.
I've installed iStat pro and it says the SSD is 0 degrees,and the
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The HDD has what looks like a .1 connector with a double row
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So I can swap this around 4 different ways. But I don't know how to
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I should also note that I have reset the PRAM and SMC to no avail. Also the system seems to have totally crashed and now if I try to boot from the SSD, I get the prohibited sign, but it will boot from the recovery partition. Running Disk Utility on the SSD from the recovery partition gives no errors.

MSI Kt6 and NEW Msi 6600GT AGP will not boot up!

My Girlfriend's computer.
I put this new video card in today MSI 6600GT AGP .For the 2nd time.
It frezzing up at startup on this screen....
"GO TO SET UP ...Press F11 , F10 ,Tab: LOGO Ckecking NVRAM..."
I rma the 1st one . Now 2nd 6600 Gt card samething.frezzing up too.
This time I put it in my PC, MSI K8T Neo, 3000 64 processor (Socket 754)
It worked Great!!!
6600GT power cord is hooked up.
So it must be the motherboard?
The 6600Gt card box
MIN.System Requirements ,On the MSI BOX
DOESNT SAY ,You might need to Flash your BIOS!!!!
Ive never flash a bios,To SCARY!!!
MSI KT6 Delta-FISR ....5.10 bios
AMD Barton 2500XP
512 2700 333
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CD burner
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I love MSI , Ive built 15 pcs, ALL with MSI motherboards!
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G

Hello!
Don't think you have to flash the BIOS. Nor do I think there is a problem with the mobo.
Two main reasons for boot problems are:
PSU with not enough grunt - please say something about it.
Memory timings are too tight - don't have any special or ultra settings.
The power cable has not been attached to the graphics card - don't know really if it is needed but I think so.
Please note that a weak PSU might not reveal itself til the power cable is connected.
About flashing BIOS, if you use the LiveUpdate program that came on the MSI install CD, it is no more trouble than upgrading any driver. But please make sure you get the right BIOS, and that it solves the issue you got.

MSI GE60 2OC-014NE - Install Windows 7 or 8 on new hard drive

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So I just bought the new MSI GE60. I installed my hybrid harddrive in it easily. Now I wanted to install a fresh windows 7 on it. Is it possible?
And if not, how do I install a fresh windows 8 on it, without spending extra money on the OS? Windows 8 came with the laptop, but without a disk.
And what is your opinion? Should I use windows 8 or 7 on it? (I really hate the looks and feel of windows 8.. It's way more complicated and non-user-friendly than 7..)
I hope you can help me out
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An Athlon XP could run in your board but it would only run at about 75% of it's clock speed due to the fact your board doesn't support 266MHz FSB.
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MSI 6600GT AGP standard clock speeds?

Ok, I got coolbits installed. Opening the tab for the first time, The "no overclocking" button is selected, 2D is selected along with core clock set at 300 and memory clock at 900. I DO NOT have the "apply these settings at startup" selected yet.
I cannot find anywhere in the owners manual what the standard core and memory clock settings are supposed to be for thing. Can anyone tell me?

Quote from: Trailryder on 14-February-05, 01:32:15
Thanks Richard, I'll try those.
Ok, just a sec, the core is 500. The ram on it is DDR. When you say 1000 for the ram clock speed that means I actually set the clock speed to 500, right? Setting it to 1000, because of DDR, would actually make the speed 2000. Is this right? Or does the actual setting slider not take into account the DDR(2x)?
You set the number to 2 times the memory clock speed. If you bring down the menu to 3D, it should be 900Mhz which is the default for the MSI. If you were to overclock it you would set it to 1Ghz, which is 100Mhz higher. The MSI card should be able to handle that with no problems. The memory is rated for 1Ghz. Once your start going over 1Ghz your starting to really overclock the memory. Most of the MSI cards should be able to do at least 1.1Ghz.
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MSI 6600GT Temp sensor install "how to" ?

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