Msi 670 pe/oc and afterburner core voltage questions..

So recently I've been attempting to push my card further. From what I'm hearing these cards are locked with voltage. Max are anywhere from 1.175 - 1.215. I don't remember flashing my bios. So I tried pushing my card to 1202 which is the max I can get without adjusting msi voltage. Also I use heaven to test stability. I limit my frames to 63 since that is what I play bf3 at and it's my most demanding game. With 1202 clock even up to 1228 I can complete one run without crashing and stock voltage.
So I said what the hell I'll increase powerlimit to 114% and increase core voltage to +30( I don't even know how much this adds because there isn't a way to monitor... If anyone has an idea I'm all ears). What do you know to my surprise I was able to complete one benchmark run in heaven at 1254 without crashing. I tried 1254 without adjusting voltage and it crashed and I had to restart. Added +30 and it didn't crash. Also aux voltage was +30 maxed and still crashed without adding core voltage. So are these voltages really locked like Nvidia wanted? Or is there a problem with heaven benchmark.
Also my setting are 4xaa( I use 2x in bf3 with low post processing) !680x1050( native) resolution, tessellation is normal, af x 16. I've also heard about flashing with unlocked bios but as of now I don't want to try that.
My current gpu bios is 80.04.31.00.46(P2004-0005). Anyone know the values for this bios or where I can look it up? I'm also on the beta 310.71 drivers since the whql 310.71 drivers for some reason limited my oc.
Thanks for anyone who can help answer these questions.

A locked card will always max out at 1.175v no matter what is set. Using Afterbuner 2.2.4 possibly also later (2.2.5 and 2.3.0 are said to be not locked but I doubt that) will also max out at 1.175v no matter the vbios. Since the 670PE does not allow to monitor voltage with software it is hard to tell if overvoltage past 1.175v works or not. Could be progress is caused due to increasing aux voltage while gpu stays at 1.175v max. An unlocked card would do 1.2125v max.
It would require an unlocked mod bios for the unlocked overvoltage. There is a thread on overclock.net about unlocked GTX6xx vbios versions. There you could get an unlocked bios for GTX670 PE: http://www.overclock.net/t/1289489/gtx-680-670-unlocked-voltage-bios/510#post_17888629
So far nobody in the forum has tested that and using would be at your very own risk (as always when using mod bios).

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MOVED: msi 670 pe/oc and afterburner core voltage questions..

This topic has been moved to Overclocking, Undervolting.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=164643.0

A locked card will always max out at 1.175v no matter what is set. Using Afterbuner 2.2.4 possibly also later (2.2.5 and 2.3.0 are said to be not locked but I doubt that) will also max out at 1.175v no matter the vbios. Since the 670PE does not allow to monitor voltage with software it is hard to tell if overvoltage past 1.175v works or not. Could be progress is caused due to increasing aux voltage while gpu stays at 1.175v max. An unlocked card would do 1.2125v max.
It would require an unlocked mod bios for the unlocked overvoltage. There is a thread on overclock.net about unlocked GTX6xx vbios versions. There you could get an unlocked bios for GTX670 PE: http://www.overclock.net/t/1289489/gtx-680-670-unlocked-voltage-bios/510#post_17888629
So far nobody in the forum has tested that and using would be at your very own risk (as always when using mod bios).

MSI Afterburner Core Voltage = huh?

So I just installed my GTX 580 Lightning and LOVE IT. Afterburner is also very nice.
What I can't figure out is the core voltage is measured like +1, +10, +100 etc but that really doesn't help me seeing what is safe for my card and where I should even start increasing it. I am used to 0.9 or 1.2v measurements.
Help!

Quote from: Henry on 27-September-11, 06:34:22
The only reasons you would need to increase the voltage would be: 1 - if you are going to OC more than what it came with and it would need higher voltage for it to run stable. 2 - if you are experiencing problems that would require a higher voltage for it to run stable. If all is OK as is then leave it alone.
Hey Henry,
Sorry I didn't specify. I came from overclocking ASUS GTX 570 and increasing the voltage quite a bit. But I was using ASUS SmartDoctor that showed the actual voltage.
Since MSI Afterburner only has a +1 through plus +200 on the core voltage modifier, I didn't quite understand what that was.
I was just wondering what the average GTX 580 Lightning overclocker was using for their voltage settings on a high OC. I wanted to see how far I could push mine
I got my GTX 570 to 930 core and 4500 memory which was insane....

MSI GTX 760 HAWK low overclocking/core voltage lock

Hello, I bought the gtx 760 hawk and i tried to overclock it, but it's overclocking potential is very low. Furthermore if I change core voltage +12mV in afterburner nothing changes. Voltage is still stuck at 1.200. There's absolutely no difference. I use ver. 3.0.0 beta 14 of afterburner. Please help.

GTX 760 NVidia specs
Base Clock 980
Boost Clock 1033
MSI N760 Hawk
Base Clock 1111
Boost Clock 1176
That is what the card is guaranteed to prvide you with.
Additionally, MSI provides voltage and clock adjustments to allow users to potentially OC it even more (no guarantee). Each individual sample will yield different results. We have users that had to RMA cards because they were unstable even at the guaranteed OC'ed speeds.
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I see in some reviews that they reach the power limit at the level of 185%
Review sites receive cherry picked samples that have been pre-tested and the results are indicative of what the best of the range may do. All the manufacturers try and have their best samples reviewed for obvious reasons.
The MSI Afterburner releases will be updated when Unwinder and the rest of the development team get around to it. Read the dedicated threads in guru3d

Auto reducing freq when above 4.5 and some OC voltages question.

Hi guys. My machine is:
Intel 2500K @ 4.5 1.3v
MSI Z68A GD80 B3
Exceleram 2000 7-10-10 @2133 7-10-10, 2x2gb.
Palit nvidia GTX460 768mb
SSD Mushkin Callisto deluxe 60gb + Hitachi 500gb 16mb sata II
WIndows 7 64bit SP1
Corsair HX520 - 520w
1.
Latest BIOS:
it works stable with 4.5ghz 1.3v, no problems (except double boot posts, but i dont care about that)
the real problem is: when i put it to 4.6 or more (higher voltage ofcourse), everytime i load my CPU it just drop freq to 4ghz, when it is in IDLE it get back to 4.6, WHY?
quite irtating, when idle it is on 4.6, but when i start a game it drops down to 4.0 or less. That was'n problem with old BIOS.
The old BIOS problem was non-turning on, for example, it's LINX stable several hours, and suddenly wont boot after restar, pritty odd.
2.
there are a lot of voltages in BIOS, should i change it or leave it to AUTO
for excample what shoud i do with:
CPU I/O voltage, is that some kind of backup voltage or something?
Internal PLL voltage??
CPU PLL voltage??
Should i change it on manual and what voltage to use?
ALL power saving features are DISABLED.
Thanks

Did you do a full CMOS clear after the BIOS flash ? >>Clear CMOS Guide<< Do a battery removal during the process.
After the CMOS clear, do not touch the "Adjust CPU ratio". It will show 33, leave it alone.
Go right to the bottom of the OC Settings page and select the CPU specifications. This will open a sub-page.
Adjust the core ratios here so all of them are 45 or 46.
Leave all voltages on Auto for now. Most 2500K CPUs should do X44 or X45 on Auto. As soon as you manually adjust the core voltage, it will stay there, even in idle.
In that sub page also disable OverSpeed protection.
Retest.

[Other 865 Series] MSI 865PE Neo2-V and Dual Channel Mode Question

Hello, I have a quick question regarding dual channel mode with my current motherboard. I have an MSI 865PE Neo2-V and am wondering if it is possible to enable dual channel mode while having three RAM modules inserted in the motherboard.
For example, I currently have one 512MB PC3200 module in my computer. If I purchase another 512MB module and run them in dual channel mode, will it be possible to buy a 1GB module or another size module, and still have all three slots run in dual channel mode? Or is dual channel only operational on this motherboard if only two of the three slots are occupied?
Thanks.

Dual channel requires an even number of sticks.

MSI 975x PowerUp Edition and Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 overclocking

As subject says, BIOS ver. 7.40, board rev.2.1, CPU works on other boards up to high 3GHz+ and on this one not even a megahertz over standard 200...
Memory is not a subject, A-DATA Extreme, known to work up to 1GHz, cooling by TT Big Typhoon an PSU by Antec, case CM Wave Master...
No matter what I do, I can't OC the CPU!
Any clues?
Wait for BIOS release?
Or grab the hammer and smash the thing apart...

Guys, thanks a lot for your effort...
Now, where I am now!
7.1B6 works for me only a day, then suddenly rebooting machine caused full stop...no move, no sign of being alive! Hard reset few times kicks in, but not as for the first few hours.
Flashed v7.4B3 which recognized my CPU, thank god and locks me back in the 200MHz FSB range... so all this for nothing!
I did manage somehow to raise to 225MHz, but that's it!
That device is still there unrecognized and still poking my eye out. No Realtek (1.61 by the way) solved UAA HD device, not this one. That is some mystery! I played with BIOS, turning on and off, that's where I come across reboot problem, but no avail!
As I am IT pro, I know you are amazed where all this comes from me, and also need to run WinXP X64, I did believe however that I will go across mapping issues, hope you got some experience. At the moment I am still on W32 partition and still fighting my fight with that nasty board!
I did used AMD systems in the past and I know that timings are all about that platform, but also Intel required decent timings otherwise you experience that wool effect on your desktop alone!
Using Ryan VM prepared copy of WinXP, which worked flawlessly anywhere, using all my knowledge I am close to give up. Nice looking board but that's where everything stops!
When I mentioned that magic speed of 333MHz, I am talking about my b/f machine where only difference seems to be motherboard, and he opted for Gigabyte 965P DS3P, and as you know, this one doesn't come with another 8X PCIE which I will need. Also there's no active cooling on anything, and there same, very same CPU I got worked at 400*9, with very same RAM without a hiccup!!!! For about a month and a half! No reboot prob, no prob recognizing CPU, no unknown devices and so...
I know solution would be to get rid of this board ASAP, but then I should turn to new set of problems however and probably new set of friends across the globe! All the drivers are reinstalled gazillion times, and being a new driver freak, yes I do used all the latest!
What a tough nut! I believe if MSI read this sooner or latter they will point out that even Intel on their own motherboard support overclocking as this is part of their global plan widespreading their technology. You must know that only OC helped AMD raise, and now very same story work for Intel as well!
Guys, help me!

MOVED: MSI Z97 Gaming 5 and Intel Core i7 4790K

This topic has been moved to GAMING Motherboards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=181378.0

Quote from: AranelSurion on 03-July-14, 22:02:56
Speancer, what was the BIOS version yours shipped with?
I got a GAMING 5, according to MSI Support it's V1.0, since I don't have a spare LGA1150 chip I'm really curious if 4790K is going to work as it is. My build is from entirely new parts, so if somehow it fails to POST, I can't know for sure if it's because of the outdated BIOS or something else, It would be great to know if it's actually going to work or not on 1.0 .
Anybody tried 4790K with 1.0 BIOS? Does it work?
It was 1.0 Like I said, it works perfectly ouf of the box on MSI Z97 Gaming 5 with i7 4790K CPU. After installing system and most of my softwares like it was before format, I noticed that I could not enter BIOS, but system was working normally. Then I flashed BIOS from 1.0 to 1.3 in Windows and it worked again and has been working ever since.
Good luck with your new rig

Power supply and system operating voltage question

This is my system
MSI Neo2 Plat 939 Soc
AMD 64 3500
OCZ 1 Gig
40 G Western Digital (OS)
160 Seagate (everthing else)
PSU 550W Aspire Chameleon
+3.3 = 32 A
5+ = 34 A
12+ = 36 A
-5 = 0.3 A
-12 = 0.8 A
+5 VSB = 2.0 A
NO overclocking
The voltages my system is running are
CPU Core = 1.09 V
+3.3 = 3.31
+5 = 5.01
+12 = 12.65
Do these look OK?

Is your cpu core only 1.09 due to cool and quiet because that is what mine is now running at when i enabled c 'n quiet. Also i have a 520 watt aspire psu, but my voltages are very close to the mark 12= 11.96-12.01, 5=4.98-5.01, and the 3.3 = 3.3 but my cpu core is around 1.41 with no cool and quiet and around 1.09 with it on. I am also using the neo4 plat/sli, maybe better voltage regulators, im not to sure but i would think if you arent having any reboots that your board should be fine just dont know in the long run. If you could maybe try a friends PSU and see what you get and if it is around the same your PSU should be fine.
Andrew

K8NGM2-FID CPU core voltage Fluctuations and instabilities-- Bad caps!!?

I Have K8NGM2-FID bought 6 months ago and started having stability issues since last month.
Here is my configuration
K8NGM2-FID ver 2.0 Bios 3.73 now, used to be 3.5, experimented both, but did not help
Onboard video, Onboard Lan, firewire
Memory : 512 x 2 Corsair DDR400 in dual channel mode at 2.65v 64MB to Video
CPU: AMD64 X2 3800+
HDD WD 160GB SATA150
Winfast TV2000 Expert Tv Tuner
Drivers, tried many version ( currently using latest Nvidia Video, MB drivers)
Now, the description of the problem.
System suddenly hangs with or without load, intermittenly. Nothing to do what we are working on. Even when System is idle.
Hangs means, it could happend two ways,
1. simply it would not respond, screen simply freezes,
2. sometimes, you simply see horizantal lines on monitor( Typically happens when cpu core voltage drops below it can handle). I know this because
I am using RMClock on my Turion laptop, and when we try to find lowest stable voltage we see this behaviour.
Now, some other observation, from the day one CPU core voltage has been fluctuating a lot. Used to fluctuate anywhere between 1.37v to 1.304v( at default 1.35v). But still has been stable. Ran 24hour prime95, so no problems.
Recently I am seeing voltage fluctuations is more, as low as 1.28v to 1.39v at default 1.35v, so I tried RMCLock and raised the voltage to 1.4v, but it seems that did not help much.
Now, As per the MSI PCALert4 voltage is changing anywhere from 1.28v to 1.38v, but also I get core voltage field empty( that is right no CPU core voltage shown) and alarm sounds. It seems, CPU does not get voltage at all and gets very low voltage for a second or so.
Things I tried, Changed the powersupply, changed the Memory, but no use. I am lucky enough to have exact same configuration I built for a friend. So, I checked voltages on his PC and I do not see this behaviour.
Now, I ran out of options.... any idea anyone had similar problem, and if they solved?
Now, here are PCAlert 4 images
http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=128vatdef135sp5.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=novoltageif5.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=132vredbi3.jpg
Also, another weird behaviour with Bios, even when I change setting in bios, they did not take effect, even loading default does not help, so I have to press CMOS reset button.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks

Thanks for the quick reply.
First to clarify, these things has been developed a monrh ago only. It has been fine for more than 5 months.
1). Yes Memory is insalled in closest DIMM sockets to CPU,
2). I think you mean mem voltage. The memory I have is Corsair Value series and it even runs fine DDR400 at 2.55v, but I bumped it to 2.65v and also tried 2.75v ( 2.65v is typical I have been using with this MB).
3). Memory has been tested with Memtest for 24 hours and ran Dual Prime95 for 24 hours when system is assembled.
Also swapped from another PC I built for my friend with same components( same corsair value series memory) Also tested my memory on his PC, no probs. BTW I also tested my memory at 333, freezing even happens even at that speed.
4). PSU has nothing to do, because I have been monitoring all PSU rails with SPeedFan none of of the rail voltages moved at all. I even monitored with Digital Multimeter to ensure. Anyways I even tried 3 psus, one ANtec 350W smart power supply, ThemalTake 420W, Ultra 400 Watts. All have more than enough juice to power this setup. (onboard Graphics card).
5). Yes, freezing happens in simply desktop too. Nothing to do with CPU load or graphics load. It could happen even when just idling.
6). I use stock CPU cooler in Antec 1650B case with 120MM Fan running in the back( approx 50cfm) and CPU temp never exceeded 47c and MB temp typically around 28c and NB temp around 50-60c using a digital probe and 55-70c using Nvidia Monitor based on load vs no load.
7). As per Dual core patches, I applied AMD Dual Core optimizer quite a while ago. As per the MS Patch, No I have not applied( But I doubt it helps because it has been stable without that for all these months). I may try that.
Now, what I am trying, I disabled CNQ, and logging Core voltage fluctuation with speedfan( no monitoring).
as of yesterday night the core voltage was varying from 1.28v to 1.39v( I think that is insane 110mv fluctuation in CPU core voltage!!?) at default CPU voltage of 1.35v. BTW it has nothing to with CPU load, all these logs generated when it was idle. I remember fluctuation even when MB was new, but lowest I observed was 1.304v.
SOmehow, I suspect VRM is pretty bad on this MB.
Anyways, see the response and let me know if you think I am missing somethings. Appreciate your help.

MSI Afterburner - 2.2.0 Beta 3 Core Voltage 0+ (Question)

Sup guys,
I installed the MSI Afterburner - 2.2.0 Beta 3, i read the manual and some sites etc. one thing i do not understand and that is how this version's Core Voltage works. As i've seen on youtube and various forums that the Core Voltage is displayed as the volts are set to exp: 0.0950V, but mine is displayed as a "+0". It never displays the Volts at which you are currently at, like the Core Clock or Memory clock etc. Any ideas?

I was wondering what that switch was for
So i switched to "Performance Mode" and kind of almost freaked out when i booted back up, because my pc took a while to start up "longer than normal", when it entered Windows it changed to 800x600 Res and said my Hardware was not supported, but a min or 2 after that it said "New Device Installed and ready for use" and asked to restart, so i restarted and....... kapish
Seems we have a winner:
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Changing voltage msi 670 pe oc

I just reinstalled msi 2.2.3. I can change the voltage if I unlock in options. However I would like to know if this even works or was the voltage locked. If I increase aux, core and memory voltage would it actually change?
Also is it safe to increase core voltage to max for higher overclock? I'm kind of new to overclocking the card.

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I just reinstalled msi 2.2.3. I can change the voltage if I unlock in options. However I would like to know if this even works or was the voltage locked.
While aux and mem can be adjusted vgpu will not exceed over 1.175v which is the limit dictated by Nvidia and vbios is locked therefor.
It would require an unlocked mod bios. There is a thread on overclock.net about unlocked GTX6xx vbios versions. There you could get an unlocked bios for GTX670 PE: http://www.overclock.net/t/1289489/gtx-680-670-unlocked-voltage-bios/510#post_17888629
So far nobody in the forum has tested that and using would be at your own risk (as always when using mod bios). If it works 1.2125 should be available.
However due to technical restrictions the GTX670 PE unfortunately does not offer the possibility to readout voltage of the gpu with Afterburner so you can't monitor.
Without unlocking setting anything for vgpu in Afterburner will have no effect (so is not dangerous). The voltage to be applied with Afterburner with AUX is a safe setting. Memory voltage should only be increased if really needed and as much as needed. Memory dies quickly with too high voltages.
None the less all overvolting is at your own risk.

Afterburner, no set core voltage second card on crossfire.

Hello,
I do not have a setting available on the " core voltage " on my second graphics card in afterburner .
I just added a 280X R9 besides my HD7970 .
ON the first card everything is available but not on the second .
Do you have an idea of setting ?
Sorry i have a print screen but i can't post external link.....
AB 4.1.0
Sorry for my English I use google translator from France ^^

Please don't bump your issue: >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<. Bump post has been removed.
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MSI Gtx 980 core voltage LOCKED !

I just put my msi gtx 980 4g into my pc, was gonna take some benchmark testing and overclock, but i found out that in the msi afterburner, the core voltage is locked. now this is weird i think, im really new to overclocking, but iknow with all the money i spendt on the 980 that option should be UNLOCKED !
Any help to get ? Thank you.
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Quote from: shahabi-89 on 17-December-14, 00:14:30
@Nichrome Off-topic
But can you please help me with the new bios for gtx 970.
I did as Svet asked and created a new topic with bios attached and S/N. But he is offline now and hopefully you can help me.
Continue with your own topic then.
Quote from: shahabi-89 on 17-December-14, 00:14:30
@partynachim, sorry for loaning your thread..
Instead of hijacking

MSI KT3V low maximum core voltage

Hey guys
I'm very angry,because my kt3v have max. core voltage at 1,7V.Where i can find unofficial or beta bios for higer voltages? 1,7V is too low for good overclocking. I use at xp 1700+ (t-bred) and i have stable only 171 x 11.5.I heard that this cpu can run at higer speeds than 1974 mhz.
Where i can find any solution for this voltage?

I had the same problem. Not enough voltage to get my 1700+ past 1907 without stability issues. I used a defogger kit and closed all the L11 bridges on the processor which basically set the default voltage for the CPU at 1.85. Now when I go in to BIOS, the voltage is already set to 1.85, which I think is the max on most newer MSI boards. I never found a beta BIOS anywhere that got around that +/- .1 volt thing. There are also some guides out there about modifying the processor socket with small wires to jumper different pins together to alter the Vcore, but I didn't want to risk putting the wires in the wrong holes...heh. I only had to close 2 L11 bridges on my processor to get the default Vcore to 1.85 and they weren't that close together so it only took about 5 minutes to do it and it works like a champ. Good luck!

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