MSI 6712 - Front Audio/Mirophone

Hello Alll
Well got my new case and mods yesterday and it's looking great.
All running fine except with the follwoing problem
I have connected the front audio and speakers/earphones are fine. However I cannot get the front MIC sockets to work.
I have a 6712 (KT4V) Mobo and I have the following connections on the cae, MIC DATA & MIC VCC.
I have currently connected as follows on the JAUD1
MIC DATA --------------- Pin 1 AUD MIC
MIC VCC ----------------- Pin 4 AUD VCC
Any suggestions to resolve would be great.
Thanks
B

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Originally posted by Bagmaster
How many pins does the board have on the JAUD1 and how many pin holes does the front connecter have?
Is the mic connecter separate from the front headset connecter?
If you bought a new case, it should have something on paper that shows the front conecter pinouts for the front audio connecters.
Hello again.
On the JAUD there are 9 pins (but only 8 of which are active).
There are 7 connectors for the front (4 speakers, 1 ground and then the 2 MIC)).
And whilst this case is new, my only complaint is that there is no wiring instructions.
I hope that helps.
Thanks
Branny

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