MSI 6712 (KT4V) : list of ATI AGP HD4* cards compatible (no VIA chipset problems

I still have an MSI-6712 MB with an AGP ATI 9600XT but need to get a more powerfull card (no money for new MB and all that comes with this). I had started looking at some AGP ATI HD4* cards but the first one I saw mentioned possible problems with VIA chipsets (dont recall which card). So this made me wonder. I already have a problem where I cannot go higher the ATI Drivers 8.4 (problems with VIA chipsets) but maybe with a new card, I could pass over that problem.
There is no point in looking for AGP Nvidia cards as the strongest I could find was about the same as my ATI 9600XT. SO I am stuck with going for ATI. Also, having Linux partitions, the ATI drivers no longer support less then an HD* card (so does XP).
I want to know which AGP ATI HD* cards have NO problems AT ALL with an MSI-6712 and all its VIA chipsets.
I am just tring to get better graphics with my games (some stopped working) at the lowest cost possible until I have a better salary (probably next year).

X1950 is a powerful AGP card. Still stands ground well. A little power hungry though, and mind you get one with a quiet fan - they can be a bit noisy. Don't know quite, but around 20 Amps on the PSU:s 12 volt line might do, perhaps a little more. Please have a look at the side of your PSU, especially if you are on a budget. - I'm always on a budget, but I'm a clerk sort of.
Haven't heard about the VIA comp. problems. Usually there are ways around every obstacle, or climb it for fun.

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1. burn a cd with ami flash or other flash program and your bios file
2. boot the system with your ( in my case windows 98 se ) cd
3. choose to boot with cd-rom
4. run amiflash from your burned cd
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Msi-6712 kt4v

Hi there everyone
Please bear with me as I am a pretty new to this whole upgrade stuff.
Ok I decided to upgrade a spare system from a 450mhz p3 to an amd based system on a MSI6712-kt4v amd2600, sounds OK so far.
Installation went OK, everything aligned OK, all cables seated OK have triple-checked, but guess what...no power to anything at all whatsoever.
Have installed a new PSU Jeantech 400w, nothing at all.
I also took off all the unneccessary PCI cards, Modem, Network, leaving on an AGP based graphics card
Yes I realise I have probably done something very dumb somewhere and possibly fried the lot, but could someone give a couple of pointers.
Many thanks and hanging my head in shame
Pilmart.

Hi pilmart,
WARNING
YOU MUST DO THIS ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
This is the order when checking a faulty board
Conditions
1) Mobo on bench protected underneath by cardboard [ not conductive foam ]
2) Install Processor and fan and install memory
3) Connect PSU
4) Identify "Power On" pins on the front board connections to Mobo
[ This will be situtated near the front along with HDD LED, Reset Speaker etc ]
5) Apply power to PSU and momentarily short out the "Power On" pins with a small insulated screw driver [ This is similar to pressing the start button on the front of your PC ]
CARE MUST BE TAKEN AS SHORTING OUT THE WRONG PINS WILL PROBABLY DAMAGE THE MOBO
If all is well, then the fan on the PSU will work and so should the fan on the processor. This will indicate at the very least that the Mobo, Proc and memory maybe OK but not proven.
If you still have no result [ i.e no power to the fans ]
Then check
BEWARE OF STATIC ELECTRICIY - DISCHARGE YOURSELF FIRST
1) Check the position of the Clear CMOS pins on the Mobo, these pins by default should be open, but temporaily shorting out these pins will clear the CMOS. If you leave them shorted permanently then the PC will not start.
2) Check the memory by subsitutuion
3) Check the processor by subsitution
4) Check the PSU by subsituition
5) Check CMOS IC is firmly seated [ Not so common today due to SMD ]
Apart from the fact that some one has already suggested the 4 pin 12volt supply to the AMD CPU [ I don't think that you PC has one ] and all the other items have proved to be working by subsitution then it looks like the Mobo is at fault.
If the fans do start, then...
Switch off, and install the graphics card and connect a monitor
Switch on and restart the Mobo as before and check what is happening on the screen.
1) No picture - check graphics card on PC
Please Note: If you Mobo has "On Board" graphics place the header on first and try. If still no picture you can alway fit a PCI graphic card just tp prove the point.
If you have fans running but no picture on the monitor then it is advisable to fit the speaker to the Mobo.
Borrow the speaker from your PC case.
With the conditions as below
BEWARE OF STATIC ELECTRICIY - DISCHARGE YOURSELF FIRST
1) PSU
2) Processor & fan
3) Memory
4) Graphics card and monitor or "On board" graphics
5) Speaker connected
Power up and listen if you are lucky you may hear a series of beeps.
These beeps indcate that the BIOS is in the process of performing the POST
If an error occurs during the POST the beeps will give a clue as to where the problem lies
The number of beeps will determine the area of the fault.
No beeps - No picture - but everything else proven to be OK then the Mobo is probably at fault.
Physical check:
When I buy a new board I always check it on the bench first.
If you have installed it before trying it then there is the possibilty that you may cause damage to the print.
The areas to check for damage are underneath the support lugs used to secure the Mobo to the Mobo tray [ inside the PC case ]
Print around the the fan securing clip. I known people damaging the fine print around the fan clip by being rough with a screwdriver when trying to secure the clip.
If you have a picture....
If the picture i.e Boot Screen appears then you can start adding things like mouse keyboard HDD etc until you have a complete PC but laid out on the bench.
WARNING:
Unless you are confident when working with a PSU Mobo etc outside the case, then I do not encourage you to do so.
You must be careful and tidy.
You must have the power switch close at hand
You must take care to discharge yourself from static electricity before handling processors and memory and mobo
You must proceed each step and note the result.
WARNING
YOU MUST DO THIS ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE RESULTING EITHER PERSONAL OR TO EQUIPMENT BY YOUR EFFORTS TO FOLLOW THIS ADVICE
You can if you wish do this inside the case, and leave the power on pins connected to the front switch if you feel better by doing so
Hope this helps
Kind Regards

MSI 6712 (KT4V) Problem AMD Ath Barton 2500+

Hi guys , im wondering if u can help me
ive got a AMD Barton 2500+ running @ 1498 instead of 18XX , ive tried the following,
Setting Vcore standard to 1.65
FSB 166 , System does not boot
FSB 133 , System thinks its a AMD 1900+
FSB 150 , System does not boot
FSB 100 , System thinks its AMD 1100
so now im running 1498mhz instead of 18XX mhz
every time i have to reset the bios to make it boot again ,
My memory = Whitelike 333 DDR 2x 256mb Pc 2700 (single sided)
My GFX = Chaintech Gf4 64mb AGP 4X
Running XP sp1a Professional
Any ideas setting it to 18XX ??
ive tried all the ratios 11 , 10 , 4 , 12.5 , 11.5 , 13.0 14 , 15 nothing seems to work
even setted the memory to 200mhz , that didn't work ...
Any ideas?

Well Mate - If the temperature in safe mode at the lower CPU Speed is that high then it means at the proper speed the temperature would be high enough to prevent the system from booting.
And according to what you wrote about the white paste I suspect that your installation of the heatsink is the cause of the problem - which brings us back to the point - have you tried re-installing the heatsink with a thermal pad - not the silicon paste as per AMD instructions?
Anf if after following AMD's installation instructions to the letter you still have the problem you may have a faulty CPU - but unfortunately you will find that you have voided your warranty if you have used any paste instead / as well as the original Thermal pad.

AGP Graphics card covers pci slot 2 & Problems with sound card

I have already posted this on another part of the forum.
Hi i have an M Audio Delta192 Audiophile soundcard which is not working fully
i have been on the phone to the M Audio technical support about this
my problem is apparently i need to put the pci Soundcard card into the first slot after my graphics card which would be slot no 2
my graphics card has a fan on top which covers pci slot no 2 so the next available slot is slot 3 which is where i have my soundcard now
a lot of the functions available are greyed out in the M Audio Delta control panel this is the software used to control the parameters of the soundcard
is this right do i have to install my Soundcard in slot no 2 for it to work correctly
if so is there any way around this
my graphics card is a ATI Radeon 9800 XT
if there is no way around this are there any agp cards that i can get that dont have a great big fan on top that covers pci slot 2 that are good quality & can run 2 monitors
i cant seem to find any

Hi J D Knight
I'm Pretty sure it is this is what it has under my system profiler
ATI Radeon 9800 XT:
Chipset Model: ATY,R360
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x4e48
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-A14404-123
this was the graphics card installed when i bought the powermac
i understand the reasons for the fan as i am led to believe it is a powerfull card
but my main use is for audio is it true about the pci slots do i need to have my soundcard in slot 2 as M-Audio have told me if so then i do need to change my graphics card so i can get my soundcard working as it should
the only thing i need is my dual screens

MSI-6712 BIOS update issues

I have a PC, running XP Pro SP3, which was built for me nigh on 9 years ago.
Motherboard: MSI-6712 (KT4V-L) Version 1.0 (North Bridge KT400A Rev 80, South Bridge VT8235 Rev 00)
CPU: AMD XP2800+ CPU (Socket A 462, 3000 MHz)
Memory: 1.0GB DDR
GPU: nVidia GeForce FX-5200 (128 MB)
About 4 years back I considered updating the BIOS, but the MS LiveUpdate utility (v 3.5 I think it was) no longer worked (wrong URL). Tried updating it, but the update (can’t remember the version) shut down my system whenever I tried to use it. So I rolled back and left it.
Recently, a program I was evaluating (running on .Net 4 Client Profile) caused my PC to freeze up and after uninstalling I discovered all manner of problems with USB peripherals (recognition and auto-play issues).
Tried to restore a backup (Retrospect Express HD) from a Maxtor One Touch III external drive but it wasn’t having it, presumably because of the drive recognition issues, and a straight System Restore wouldn’t complete (because XP would freeze at log off).
I feared there had been hardware damage, but decided to try a clean re-install of XP Pro. The person who built the PC had left a folder of system set up files (VIA chipset 4in1, LAN, RealTek AC97, nVidia drivers, utilities etc) on the hard drive (which I backed up) but when it came to installing XP, I couldn’t figure out which chipset drivers to install, as there were multiple versions (presumably for his purposes). So I let XP install the default windows drivers and then replaced them with the latest VIA 4in1 set for the KT4V-L from the MSI download page (can’t post link) – driver version 5.11a, release 20.4.2007
Seemed to go well, but it was suggested to me that it might be a good time to update the BIOS. So I installed MSI Live Update 5 and ran a scan. Strange thing is that an automatic scan (which pulls up just the nVidia driver and utilities) reports that none are installed and a manual scan reports that the BIOS, Drivers and Utilities are the latest version and no there is need to update. How can that be? I’ve never updated the BIOS and the only other utility I re-installed is PC Alert 5.
Yet when I run a SIW (System Information for Windows) scan and it reports the following:
BIOS Properties
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
Serial Number 00000000
BIOS Version Version 07.00T
Firmware Version 101.114
BIOS Date 04/02/01
BIOS Size 256 KB
BIOS Starting Segment F000h
DMI Version 2.3
Characteristics
supports ISA Yes
supports MCA No
supports EISA No
supports PCI Yes
supports PC Card (PCMCIA) No
supports Plug-and-Play Yes
supports APM Yes
upgradeable (Flash) BIOS Yes
allows BIOS shadowing Yes
supports VL-VESA No
ESCD support is available Yes
supports booting from CD-ROM Yes
supports selectable boot Yes
BIOS ROM is socketed Yes
supports booting from PC Card (PCMCIA) No
supports Enhanced Disk Drive specification Yes
supports INT 13 for Japanese NEC 9800 1.2M floppy (3.5-inch, 1024-byte sectors, 360rpm) No
supports INT 13 for Japanese Toshiba 1.2M floppy (3.5-inch, 360rpm) No
supports INT 13 5.25-inch/360K floppy services Yes
supports INT 13 5.25-inch/1.2M floppy services Yes
supports INT 13 3.5-inch/720K floppy services Yes
supports INT 13 3.5-inch/2.88M floppy services Yes
supports INT 05 print-screen Yes
supports INT 09 and 8042 keyboard services Yes
supports INT 14 serial services No
supports INT 17 printer servicesYes
supports INT 10 CGA/Mono video services Yes
NEC PC-98 No
supports ACPI Yes
supports legacy USB Yes
supports AGP Yes
supports booting from I2O device No
supports booting from LS-120 Yes
supports booting from ATAPI ZIP drive Yes
supports booting from IEEE 1394 deviceNo
Smart Battery supported No
BIOS Boot Specification supported Yes
Function key-initiated Network Service boot supported No
Enable Targeted Content Distribution No
How is it that Live Update 5 doesn’t pick this up?
So, apologies for the convoluted post (thought it best to explain the events leading to this), but what to do?
1.   Do I need to update the BIOS, given that it has never been done and I now have the latest VIA 4in1 drivers installed?
2.   Why is Live Update 5 not reporting the status correctly and is there anything I can do to correct this.
3.   Otherwise, if a BIOS update, is warranted, should I go ahead and download directly from the Global MSI webpage and then which version? (can’t post link). I note from the version descriptions that it was v1.7 (26/12/2002) that added support for AMD XP 2800. Strange then that the guy who put together my PC, would not have updated the BIOS from v1.0 to 1.7 at that time!!
4.   Should I also update the nVidia driver, and if so, when? Before or after a BIOS update or is that irrelevant?
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 (Microsoft Corporation)
Code Name NV34
Video Processor GeForce FX 5200
Technology 0.15 0m
Adapter DAC Type Integrated RAMDAC
PCI ID 0x10DE / 0x0322 (nVidia Corporation / GeForce FX 5200 [NV34.3])
PCI sub ID 0x1462 / 0x9360 (Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. / MS-8936 (FX5200-T128))
Memory128 MBytes
BIOS String Version 4.34.20.22.00
BIOS Date 08/01/03
PnP Device Id PCI\VEN_10DEDEV_0322SUBSYS_93601462REV_A1\41FEB96E400008
Video Mode Description 1440 x 900 x 4294967296 colors
Driver Version 6.14.10.5673
Driver Date 2004-08-03 22:29:56
DirectX DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Driver Name nv4_disp.dll
Driver Description NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 (Microsoft Corporation)
Edit: Actually, looking at the original SIW scan report I see that there are some errors relating to DirectX. Not sure if I need to update DirectX (surely MS Update does that automatically) and/or the nVidia driver.
5.   One other thing that concerns me is that the SIW scan reports that the BIOS is reporting wrong values for the DDR memory. What’s that about?
Memory Summary Reported by BIOS
Warning! Wrong values reported by BIOS
Maximum Capacity 3072 MBytes
Maximum Memory Module Size 1024 MBytes
Memory Slots [unknown]
Error Correction
Memory Timings 3-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Device Locator Slot 1
Manufacturer Silicon Technology
Capacity 512 MBytes
Memory Type DDR (PC3200)
Speed 200 MHz
Supported Frequencies 166.7 MHz, 200.0 MHz
Memory Timings 2-3-3-7-0 at 166.7 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Memory Timings 2-3-3-8-0 at 200.0 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Data Width 64 bits
EPP SPD Support No
XMP SPD Support No
Device Locator Slot 2
Manufacturer Silicon Technology
Capacity 512 MBytes
Memory Type DDR (PC3200)
Speed 200 MHz
Supported Frequencies 166.7 MHz, 200.0 MHz
Memory Timings 2-3-3-7-0 at 166.7 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Memory Timings 2-3-3-8-0 at 200.0 MHz, at 2.5 volts (CL-RCD-RP-RAS-RC)
Data Width 64 bits
EPP SPD Support No
XMP SPD Support No
Hope someone can advise me on this.
Cheers.

Sorry for cross-posting to another forum, but this has got me in a twizzle
http://www.windowsbbs.com/pc-hardware/89688-need-ram-recommendations-msi-kt4v-l-2.html#post493343
According to the poster (Post #30), the KT4V-L can support 3gB DDR400.
I looked at the MB in my PC and it is in fact stamped MS-6712 KT4AV v10A (assumed 1.0A ). Both CPU-Z and SIW report it as a MS-6712 v1.0 (BIOS 07.00T 04/02/01, Firmware 101.114)
According to the MSI product webpage, the only difference between the KT4AV and KT4AV_L is that the latter includes an (optional) on-board 10/100 LAN.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/KT4AV.html#/?div=Detail
The ethernet port on my PC is (as described in Device Manager) is a Via Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter, whereas in the listed MSI specifications, the optional 10/100 LAN is stated to be a VIA VT6103 LAN controller. So possibly then I was mistaken in assuming that my MB is a KT4AV-L.
Even so, if the statement about the KT4AV-L supporting 3gB DDR400 is true, surely this also applies to the KT4AV ?
Looking at the available BIOS updates on the MSI page, I can see no mention of an upgrade in DDR400 capacity:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/KT4AV.html#/?div=BIOS
Edit: Ah, the guy in the post specifically refers to a KT4V-L v1.1 not KT4AV-L and I see that it is different product:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/KT4V---KT4V-L--v1-0-.html#/?div=Detail
What's confusing is that they all designated as MS-6712. So if anyone, like me, does a look up under MS-6712 they could pull up either version, and since the KT4AV/L and KT4V/L have different BIOS update series, I can see how someone could easily flash the wrong BIOS.
That aside, the memory specifications for the KT4V/L are essentially the same as those in the User Guide that came with my KT4AV:
Supports up to 3GB PC1600/2100/2700/3200* DDR SDRAMs
*See Glossary for recommended DDR400 modules - with the largest listed module capacity being 2 x 512MB
So where does this "up to 3GB DDR400 capacity" notion come from. I'd really want to believe it. And if the guy in the PC shop is to be believed, I'd settle for just 2GB.
Edit 2: Oh, boy, so there is a separate product listing for the KT4V-L v1.1:
http://us.msi.com/product/mb/KT4V-L--v1-1-.html#/?div=Detail
Yet, the memory specifications appear to be the same as those for the other MS-6712 versions and BIOS updates are the same as those for the KT4AV-L (very confusing). In fact the downloadable User Guide is the same - 'KT4AV MS-6712 (v1.X) ATX Motherboard'.
Am I missing something here?

ATI TV Tunner not working on an MSI KT4 V ( MSI 6712)

I've bought 2 weeks ago a MSI card( MSI K3 V Ultra) (MSI 6712) . I have an AMD Athlon 2200+ , 512 DDR PC 2700
Well i have problems with an ATI TV Tunner (ATI TV WONDER) that doesn't work.
I instaled the ATI sofware ,drivers corectlly and the ATI software doesnt recognize my CPU at all , it sais i have no system ram ...etc and the tunner is not working.
I've installed everything corectlly : drivers , software..etc
From ATI support team i received an email saying to update my bios...so i did(to the latest version) ...but it isn't working at all :( :O
HELP!!! ?( ?( ?(

try playing swap the pci slot with it
avoid slot 1 as will normally share with vga

KT4V (MSI-6712) USB Slowness

Hi,
As u can already see from the subject i have the MSI-6712. Im running Windows XP Pro with Service Pack 1. I recently purchased the Archos Multimedia Hard Disk which has USB2.0 and firewire. I knew i didnt install the patch, so i did install the patch (VIAEHCX1.INF) and the 4in1 patch. I restarted my PC and it detected the hardware fine as the "JUKEBOX" but it took 4 minutes to transfer a 180MB file, i know this is wrong because i have transfered 500MB in 4 minutes on another PC using USB2.0. In the Device Manager, the USB bit does have 'VIA USB 2.0 Enhanced Host COntroller' but it doesnt seem to be running USB2.0. Can anyone help me,
PM5K

I've had no error message about the device being used in a USB2.0 port but i have been able to open the Hard Disk destination, just has a slow transfer rate. Im thinking that it could be the setup in the Device Manager, Do they seem right to you?
---- Universal Serial Bus Controllers
------ USB Root Hub
------ USB root Hub
------ USB Root Hub
------ USB root Hub
------ VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
------ VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
------ VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
------ VIA USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
PM5K

MSI-6712 Processor and stability

I just upgraded my processor from a AMD Athlon 1.2ghz to a Sempron 2800+ I also Bought a new power supply it is 430w.
My system isnt clocking right still says im running at 1.2ghz I attempted to change the bios to 166mhz as other posts suggest but my computer wont start up when i do so. the processor is straight out of the package. computer runs fine till i attempt to change the bios settings or try and play games. it will just shut off.
Specs are MSI-6712 Motherboard (Bios Version 1.10),Amd Sempron 2800+, ATI 9200 128mb agp.

Quote from: Grayone on 30-March-05, 23:58:59
Did you check and make certain that nothing was covering the thermal pad before you instadded the cpu? Some have plastic covering over the pad to protect it that has to be removed before installation? It need to be cooler before you can reach 166.
Ok Figured out the problem. thanks alot id have never thought it was the heat causing my issues. apreciate the help im up and running good now. Had to make some Heatsink adjustments. it didnt come out of the box exactly like it was suoposed to be installed.
Much apreciated.

KT4AV MSI-6712 Dead after BIOS Flash to support XP3000 CPU (Photos)

Hello, I'm a 15-year veteran system administrator and hardware hacker and this is the first time I have ever had what appears to be a truly DEAD mobo killed after a BIOS flash!
Of course I read all the stickies and spent 2 hours research & homework first, before posting here. I tried everything to revive this mobo.
Here's what happened:
MSI-6712 KT4AV system with onboard Audio and Ethernet, Athlon 2800+ CPU, 1GB (2 x 512MB PC2700 DDR) RAM. 300W PSU. It's been running great for years with never an issue. I just got a Athlon 3000+ CPU I wanted to upgrade, but before I did I decided I had better upgrade the BIOS to support this newer CPU, since the BIOS Version History says the later revisions handle the 3000 CPU.
I upgraded the BIOS from DOS Boot via a Bootable USB and it Verified successfully. Then I rebooted and it said something like Invalid CMOS settings, so I entered BIOS Setup to view my new BIOS. I noticed new features like Network Boot ability, so the new BIOS seemed to be a success. (Note this was a soft-reboot, not a hard power-off reboot). I set my normal settings and saved to reboot and the system was DEAD from that point on! No beeps, monitor stays black. CPU fan does run but that's it.
Here is what I have:
(This image is larger if you view it directly)
Things I have tried:
Removing all RAM and vacuuming dust, reseating 1 stick nearest the CPU. (This shouldnt be necessary since I have not removed the ram or disturbed it, but I tried anyway since D-Bracket LED indicates a Memory error.)
Trying a different brand PC2700 DDR RAM stick.
Removing CMOS battery for 10 minutes.
Jumpering Clear CMOS a dozen times. Leaving Clear CMOS jumper overnight (desperate!).
Disconnected all devices from mobo, all HDs, even the AGP video card.
Unfortunately, since the mobo fails so early, it never beeps or initializes the keyboard, so safe-mode INS or CTRL-HOME don't work... so I can't reload my old BIOS backup I carefully saved before I flashed the new one.
As you can see the BIOS chip is soldered directly to the mobo.... so am I 100% dead here? Is there anything I can do?
I am 100% positive I did this BIOS update correctly and there is no reason it should have killed the mobo!

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UPDATE: Oh boy, it looks like I may have flashed the WRONG BIOS???!?!
Too possible, that's why i ask
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I'm not sure what my old bios version was, I couldn't find any way to tell? The BIOS flash utility did not display my old version anywhere either.
Well you told that you have created BIOS backup before update the BIOS, ==> "so I can't reload my old BIOS backup I carefully saved before I flashed the new one."
Can you upload it somewhere to check it?
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I now see that I should have instead flashed BIOS v5.4 for KT4AV: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=552
I am shocked at this mistake... Can such a small discrepency (KT4V-L vs KT4AV) really kill my motherboard? I saw the KT4V-L and thought it was right because my mobo has Onboard LAN...
I'm doomed!
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Can such a small discrepency (KT4V-L vs KT4AV) really kill my motherboard?
Sure yes, will be no wonder

ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB 8x Dual (DVI/DVI) (AGP) Video Card for PC/Mac

We want to be able to use our 30" cinema display from the G4 and was advised in a previous discussion to buy the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB 8x Dual (DVI/DVI) (AGP) Video Card for PC/Mac. It doesn't seem to be available anywhere. Does anybody know of an alternate video card that's currently available that will get us there? (We had the display running from a G5 that quit / logic board failure).
Many thanks,
Philip

The Nvidia 7800GS is a flashed card, runs a 30" with ease.
BruinMacs on Ebay is a great place to get one, you support the guy who wrote the original ROM for these.
He doesn't seem to have any for sale right now, but if you email him, maybe he will list one.
There are also flashed X800s that work on your MDD and can run a 30". They are pricey but will offer dual DVI while the 7800GS is single DVI with VGA for second display.
There are also flashed 6600GT AGP cards which will work, but harder to find.
Any of the above 3 will run circles around a 9600.

MS-6712 KT4V-L - 9 pin USB PIN OUT!!!

hi, as many of you know the MSI MS-6712 KT4V-L Motherboard has a 9 pin USB PINOUT port for the front usb, but with my new case my front usb card has a 10 pin USB PINOUT port and the usb ports/audio ports aren;t working, do any of you have any ideas on this or any surgestions about an adapter etc, [email protected][/EMAIL] e-mail me or add me to msn if you can help

lol i helped him fixing it on msn :P i think it did work all along only had to plug something in to make windoze see it ^^ XD

Hmmm.... Original 16 Meg ATI AGP Rage 128 Pro or 32 Meg ATI PCI Mac 7000 ?

I have both of these cards installed in my 466 (soon to be 733) MHz DA tower.
Which one should I be using for best all-around performance ???
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Jeff sez:
The Radeon GPU is better/faster than the older Rage 128 Pro. In addition to having more memory, the Radeon cards have DDR SDRAM, as opposed to the SDRAM found on the Rage card. The performance difference between the two cards is noticeable, so I'd go with the Radeon.
I sez:
To check out the difference between PCI vs AGP video performance I used a 22 inch LaCie set at millions of colours on my AGP Graphics Digital Audio G4 tower, I installed two contemporary video cards in it and then ran only the video component of XBench on the computer twice, once with the monitor connected to each card and nothing connected to the other. The results were more or less what I expected, but they were interesting. The two cards I used for the test were both ATI cards. One of them was the 16-meg Rage128 Pro AGP card that came stock in my 466 MHz DA G4 tower and the other was a theoretically much better 32-meg DDR ATI Radeon PCI 7000 Mac Edition. The only other installed PCI card (besides the Radeon 7000) is a VIA Vectro VT6212L USB 2.0 card.
When the video testing was all finished the AGP card, with 16 Megs of VRAM, scored considerably higher than the 32-meg PCI card in every category of the test. The overall XBench score for the computer, with no other changes, was 32.08 with the PCI video card and 38.04 with the Rage 128 Pro AGP graphics card installed. Frames per second for spinning squares results were 55.58 with the PCI card, 65.77 with AGP. What was most notable was the Text results: only 2.13 thousand characters per second with the 32-meg DDR Radeon 7000 Mac Edition versus a whopping 5.12 thousand characters per second with the 16-meg AGP card.
I suspected the AGP was better than PCI but I did not expect a 16-meg AGP card to overwhelm a PCI card with 32MB of double data rate memory. Live & learn.

MSI GeForce 4 MX 440 with AGP 8X - No Dual Display?

Hello! I have just purchased the MSI MX440-VTD8X based on GeForce 4 MX 440 with AGP 8X. I have the latest drivers and everything but I’m unable to enable the clone option to have pictures on both my monitor and my TV. The option is grayed out. The TV connection is correctly connected. I can choose my TV as the primary display, it’s just that I cannot have dual display! Isn’t my card supposed to have this option? Here is a pic:

A previous poster (in a different thread) found that if the video card has both analog and digital monitor outputs, then for TV-out to function properly with the VIVO 4-port adapater, you need to connect your analog monitor to the digital output using the supplied digital-to-analog converter.
I have a new G4 MX440 VTD8X and had a similar issue to the one described here....the TV could not be detected by the video card when connected via RCA jacks (S-video worked, but could not CLONE the monitor). I moved my primary monitor from the analog to the digital port, and viola, the TV out functions perfectly now. :D

ATI AGP Voltage Problems

I use the ATI AGP card ! It is R9100(GPU) 64MB DDR Series !
who have experience in ATI cards ?
My AGP card is working at 1.5v ! Who know at which voltage it will be perfect performance?
r9100 GPU Core at 250Mhz ;DDR Also at 250Mhz ! support DirectX 8.1
How to overclock my ATI card?

Many people thought that AGP 1.5V ~ 1.7V is the one use to overvolt your AGP card. But in fact, that is little to do with AGP card. It has more to do with the AGP signals, and much much more to OVERVOLT and OVERHEAT your board chipsets - MCH and ICH (northbridge and southbridge)!!!
If you plan to overclock your whole system, you need to adjust this 1.5V higher, 1.6V which is OK. If your system crashed, it's not only to be your AGP card causing the crash, but also the onboard chipset!!! However, Intel chipset is very very robust by its own so it ends up to the motherboard design quality and also AGP card design quality.
Furthermore, now most high-end AGP cards have their own voltage supply by external power connectors. Some cards even have their own 1.5V regulator. So the AGP 1.5V does very little here to these AGP cards.
In answer to mofamous, stick with 1.5V, it's not necessary to overvolt it even you overclock your card. There is little performance margin you can gain from overclocking your card. And plain voltage pumping will not help much too.

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