MSI 6712 (KT4V) Problem AMD Ath Barton 2500+

Hi guys , im wondering if u can help me
ive got a AMD Barton 2500+ running @ 1498 instead of 18XX , ive tried the following,
Setting Vcore standard to 1.65
FSB 166 , System does not boot
FSB 133 , System thinks its a AMD 1900+
FSB 150 , System does not boot
FSB 100 , System thinks its AMD 1100
so now im running 1498mhz instead of 18XX mhz  
every time i have to reset the bios to make it boot again ,
My memory = Whitelike 333 DDR 2x 256mb Pc 2700 (single sided)
My GFX = Chaintech Gf4 64mb AGP 4X
Running XP sp1a Professional
Any ideas setting it to 18XX ??
ive tried all the ratios 11 , 10 , 4 , 12.5 , 11.5 , 13.0 14 , 15 nothing seems to work
even setted the memory to 200mhz , that didn't work ...
Any ideas?

Well Mate - If the temperature in safe mode at the lower CPU Speed is that high then it means at the proper speed the temperature would be high enough to prevent the system from booting.
And according to what you wrote about the white paste I suspect that your installation of the heatsink is the cause of the problem - which brings us back to the point - have you tried re-installing the heatsink with a thermal pad - not the silicon paste as per AMD instructions?
Anf if after following AMD's installation instructions to the letter you still have the problem you may have a faulty CPU - but unfortunately you will find that you have voided your warranty if you have used any paste instead / as well as the original Thermal pad.

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    THKS

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  • Trouble with MS-6712 (KT4V)

    Sorry to waste the forums time with my stupid question but I need help.
    I've been having a problem with this board, it reboots it self spontainiously.
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