MSI 6970 Lightning-Bouncing GPU Core clock in GPU-Z under load

Hi,
When doing some stress testing with furmark, I noticed the GPU Core Clock would bounce around between 600mhz-940mhz under 99% GPU Load. Is this normal?? I figured it would hold steady at 940mhz under load,not really sure why it's bouncing around.
Thanks!

Figured it out.. had to change the Power Control settings in CCC to +20%... maintains 940MHZ now

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No the card runs @ 940mhz core clock, the issue I was having was when I set the card profile to performance from silent the display wouldn't work. They sent me the updated bios to fix this issue but the directions are in japanese and when I translated them via google I didn't understand what they were saying to do.
***EDIT After some google research I think I have the basic idea... please let me know if i'm correct.
Step 1: Create a bootable MS-DOS Drive(Either CD or USB)
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Yesterday I received my MSI 6970 Lightning and today I installed a few games to try and see how it performs.
Everything works as expected until you start stressing it with some of the newer, heavier games and/or benchmarks.
I took some pictures to show what I mean that you can view at:
http://dev.nixit.nl/artifacts/
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Other information that may be relevant:
motherboard: evga x58 sli
PSU: 1000w cooler master
ram: 12gb ocz ddr3 1600
hdds: 2x74gb raptors (heh, oldies I know), 2x750
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You should read this thread and specifically regarding the switches on the back of the card. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=150708.0
These are the switches that should ONLY be operated by professional overclockers under controlled circumstances.
Mainly because these switches remove precautionary measures from graphics cards to allow them to deliver the highest levels of performance.
These switches can be found on the back and the side of the card and have several functions:
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BIOS Switch, run with the normal Lightning BIOS or a special sub-zero version
Please check this switch, i.e. the position its in. Ensure that it is in the "Normal position".
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Xtreme Cool :
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Msi 6970 Lighting poor Gpu frecv...

i just bought one piece Msi 6970 Lighting .But my card dont run with gpu frecvency at 940 mhz like other.my card run at 880 mhz like reference card .Someone can help ?

Quote from: ilicidbr on 29-July-11, 00:49:05
Dennis Msi thanks for reply.
U said i bouht one non Oc card,but on the sellers sites and MSi site there is no information about non Oc card at 880 mhz.I see nowhere one MSi lighting clocked at 880.If i clocked my card at 940 mhz, and put voltage at 1750 ,in every video aplication that card falling.Maybe i need wait for one bios update or what ?
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Kombustor at 84c with 87% auto fan, gpu temp#3 is at 115c! Unbearably loud and it's getting plenty of airflow
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AMD PII X6 1090t @4.0 with H50 push/pull 19c idle 35c load
Gigabyte 890FX UD5 ver 2.0 bios
8GB, 2GBX1 G.Skill DDR3 1600@ 1800 9.9.9.12
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Cooler master Haf X, with 4 220mm fans, vista ultimate 6
Corsair HX750 watt PSU
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MSI DKA790GXM Platinum
4gb ddr2 kingston hyper x 800@960
Asus dvd burner
X-fi titanium PCI-e
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Pc power n cooling 650 watt PSU
Silverstone gaming case
Windows 7 64bit

I also use cpuid hwmonitor to check temps n volts 12 vlt rail is at 12.05 during load. The gpu load temps on the lightning nvr exceed 72c at stock and 76c with the oc. Should I get a new mobo? Compatibility issue? I was looking at a asrock 990fx extreme 3 as this would allow me to upgrade my CPU later if I choose. I am on my current main pc bc bulldozer didn't grab me. Some benches r less than the x6s, my two 6970s perform btr than a single 7970 for my needs and the only increase I would see is if I got two 7970s that's way to much coin n would be bottlenecked by my current CPU I'm sure. Any ideas? I'm at a loss

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