MSI 785GTM-E45 Bios Startup Random Freezes Help?

Hi all,
I hope I am posting this in the right forum, because it is a bios startup problem. I have been searching the forums from here and other places extensively for the past few days as well as trying pinpoint the problem on my own computer. My problem is every now and then when I boot up, it takes a really long time to get past or freezes at "initializing usb controllers" or it just freezes on "hypertransport flood sync." Some people say its the cpu, motherboard, ram, etc... So I have just been testing to see which component is causing the problem.
I recently purchased parts to build a new computer from frys. The parts are:
1. MSI 785GTM-E45
2. AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE
3. Patriot Extreme Performance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC24G6400ELK
4. Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W power supply
5. PNY Geforce 240 GT
6. 80 gb pata WD harddrive and NEC pata dvd-rw.
At first I thought it might've been that I was unlocking the cores and they were unstable, turns out the 4th core is unstable. However, I still get the weird freezes at initializing usb controllers and hypertransport flood sync even when I am running the stock 2 cores. Plus I purchased another AMD 555 to test it out, and its the same. Then I turned my attention to the ram, I ran memtest86+ on it and the ram appears to be good. And I don't think it is the power supply either, I can't really test it cuz I only have one. It can't be the video card because I was having this problem before I even installed the video card (I was using onboard waiting for something to go on sale). I am beginning to suspect that it's just a bad motherboard. I have even tried updating the bios to 8.5, I can now support X6, but it still doing the weird random freezes.
Was wondering if others had any ideas or suggestions. Thanks.

For your current system as is that PSU will be OK. If you think you will be upgrading video to something beyond a 250GTS & x4 CPU then I would recommend the TX650W instead. newegg usually has the best prices for the Corsairs and only online store I buy from in the past couple of years.
If you look at the specs at newegg you will see where it says how many rails it has. Also n'egg usually has picture of the PSU label and you can see there, it will show for example 2 rail: +12V1@18, +12V2@18, note the number after +12V. A single rail will have 1, for example the Corsair in your link +12V@30A

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