MSI 785GTM-E45 wont post with 4 GB ram just about at witts end help please

I have a MSI 785GTM-E45 with a AMD Athlon 7750 Black Edition Dual Core 2.7 (all overclocking was restored to normal for install of new ram) that ive been putting together its just about done except vid card and memory.. K heres my problem I"ve been using a 1 X 1gb single channel ddr2 800 pc2 -5300 1.8v 240 pin to set stuff up untill i got my new ram. well i got my new ram today its 2 sticks 2 GB each PC2-8500 DDR2-1066Mhz ..CL 5-7-7-25 dimm when I install it on my board the machine wont post. seems like it boots theres no beeps or anything so i cleared the CMOS Flashed and upgraded the bios set bios to defaults still wont post. I tried one stick then other tried one slot then other nothing took it out put in my old ram fires right up. HELP what am i doing wrong. PC2-8500 DDR2-1066Mhz owners manual and everything i read online says this should work they are a new maching pair.

hey mark thanks i took it to a shop today guy said it was 100% compatible so i asked him to test it came back bout 5 min later said it was completely dead worthless so in sendin it back bout some from the guy at the store machine runs awsome now i just need a good inexpensinve graphics pci-e pretty sad when you spend good Money and a few days looking for excactly what you want / need and when you get it its trash im just glad it wasnt my main board

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Hello guys and girls,
Good day to you.
I am new here as I just happily purchase my new MSI motherboard last week. Yay~
However, I am now currently facing problem in POSTing the PC after it was working beautifully for a week. Hope someone can help me as I have exhausted my testing/diagnostics options.
Some other infos that might be informative :-
1.) APS LED does not light anymore.
2.) No longer have successful POST beep anymore. (CPU Cooler comes on though)
3.) Of course the black screen.
4.) The last boot time, I remember seeing CMOS related error in the POST screen. After that loaded into Windows XP 32bit and I restarted the PC. Then the No POST happened.
My PC hardware components :-
CPU: Athlon X2 5000 (2.2GHz)
Motherboard: MSI 785GTM-E45 (ver 1.4) (No idea on how to check the BIOS as I can't even POST now)
RAM: I have 4 units working memory that I have tested to be working in this motherboard before it is not POSTing.
a.) Kingston DDR2 667MHz (KVR667D2N5/2G) [1 Stick]
b.) Mushkin DDR2 800MHz [1 Stick]
c.) Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066MHz 2x1GB Kit [2 Sticks] (using this one as the main before it failed to POST)
Graphics: Using onboard
PSU: Seasonic S12D 750W
a.) +3.3V = 24A ; +5V = 30A. (150W)
b.) +12V Combine = 62A (744W)
c.) -12V = 0.8A (9.6W)
d.) +5Vsb = 3A (15W)
Diagnostics that I have done :-
1.) Checked whether the motherboard is touching the casing which will ground it. The motherboard is screwed on the standoffs with a 1.5cm away from the case. Checked the motherboard edges, not touching the casing either. Checked whether is there any screws that are short-circuiting the motherboard, nothing there as well.
2.) Unplug the HDD and ODD. No POST as well. Plugged the HDD and ODD to another computer, it works.
3.) Triple checked the power connections in the PC. No POST. After that plugged my Seasonic PSU to another computer to test. It was working.
4.) Plugged another working PSU (Xigmatek 550W) from a working PC. Quadruple check the power connections is correct. No POST still.
5.) Test the memory DIMMs with different slots (all 4 of them). Installed one at a time and each time is in different slot. No POST still. Tried the board with NO memory, it beeps non-stop (Good news it is still working?)
6.) Did the Clear CMOS method according to manual. No POST still.
7.) Checked the monitor by plugging into another computer and see whether is it faulty. Is working.
8.) Retest all the memory DIMMs in another PC. All 4 DIMMs is working in another PC.
9.) Carefully remove the CPU and reseat the processor. After that retest all the 4 memory DIMMS (No matter which slot). No POST still.
10.) Disassemble the motherboard from the casing and other components to checked whether the capacitors are bad. Didn't detect any.
11.) Plugged in a working graphic card to check whether the onboard graphic is faulty. No POST still.
So now, I think I am left with 2 possibilities. The processor or the motherboard, however, the motherboard was the one showing symptoms based on the LED thing. So I am siding towards the motherboard is faulty?
I am out of ideas now. Hope someone can help me.

Yes, the CPU power is connected. both the 4 pins and 24 pins.
Some updates, I went to buy a Sempron 140 processor to test just for the sake whether the mobo works.. I just burnt some money on it.. it won't work.. Brought the motherboard back to the shop, they tested it and it is faulty.. so warranty claim. Guess I wont have a mobo for sometime..
Consider solved and I just burnt some money buying a spare proc which I think I wont be using also. haha.
Thanks for everyone who attempted to help me.

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Thanks in advance for your time.

For those who are interested I received the following answer from MSI technical support. Personally I find this to be a flaw in this board's design. I chose this MB to replace a dead MB in a HP media center for a friend. If I was buying this board for myself I likely would be using it as a HTPC because of the mATX form factor, HDMI on board, and backward compatibility for CPUs. However, due to the added cost of purchasing a new heat sink and fan I would be RMAing if I had bought it for myself. Considering many of the top performing after market coolers still come with a 3 pin fan it was a poor decision for MSI to not include support for automatic speed control of a 3 pin voltage controlled fan.
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Dear Sir/Madam,
Thanks for contacting msi technical support team!
We are sorry that because of the circuit designs,we could not add cpu smart function for 3 pin's connector fan in the BIOS. The difference between 3pins and 4pins is that the second has a temperature controller but the first does not.We would suggest you utilize a 4-pin CPU Fan in order to control the CPU Fan speed.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused you!
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support Team

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Hi all,
I hope I am posting this in the right forum, because it is a bios startup problem. I have been searching the forums from here and other places extensively for the past few days as well as trying pinpoint the problem on my own computer. My problem is every now and then when I boot up, it takes a really long time to get past or freezes at "initializing usb controllers" or it just freezes on "hypertransport flood sync." Some people say its the cpu, motherboard, ram, etc... So I have just been testing to see which component is causing the problem.
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Hello everyone, hope you can help.
I have just changed from a Lanparty Jr series (due to a bios failure) to a Msi 785gtm-e45 motherboard. Everything is okay apart from running the graphics card which does not output any video. I first thought this was a bios setting so I tried setting the video default to pci-e, no change. I'm currently running on the on-board graphics (HD4200) with the 9600gt also inserted, the odd thing is that windows sees the card so I installed the latest drivers and tried again but still no change. The card is functional as I had it running not long ago in my previous machine. I have also tried resetting bios settings to default. I have searched for similar threads and found a couple although none come to conclusion to the problem. My PC specs are as follows:
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Hello Svet, even it has been posted more than one year ago. I experienced the same problem with a HD 7950.
I just want to say : Yes it works finally BUT where did you find this Bios ???
I use the global website and this version is simply missing !!!*
The first thing I did while seeing that I didn't have no video signal and no boot is to upgrade the bios but I only find the .H5 or the bios for Ivy.
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But on the other hand ...what a pity from MSI to have a so bad listing of their bios.
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Quote from: Bas on 13-October-11, 15:28:28
How can you call this explanation "working fine" ??
Your powersupply is just 75W, anything can happen with so little power.
As said before, test the board with a 300W powersupply and see if it solves it.
I bought this Mini-ITX case to have a silent HTPC, its height is 62mm, so where do I put a power supply of 300W using this case if the problem realy "is" the power adapter ! Sorry to say that, but for me it's not the power adapter.
When I BOOT it, my power meter indicates the maximum value and it's between 25-30 watts, and you say that a 75W external adapter is not enough and what about netbooks or nettops with Zacate inside with similar adapters !
Can you explain to me why or how it fails to POST in few seconds (or no POST at all) with one of these devices that has a tiny power consumption. And why it POST with a external USB HDD ! It makes no sense to me.
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I hope this is the correct fouum, but here goes.
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John,
I have the same board but on it I have
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Turn off Spreadspectrum in Cell Menu
Turn off all unnecessary ports such as LTP ports these are parallel/serial ports
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You used too much compound....only a tiny drop is enough....in fact so much that you hardly see it...
It has to be that little, as without it could function better, no joke.
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