MSI 865PE MB and Geforce 2 vid cards

Hi!
I'm building a new system and using the MSI 865PE Neo2-LS motherboard. To save money, I was going to temporarily use my old Asus V7700 Geforce 2 GTS card in it. This card says it is 4x/2x AGP, but the 865PE says it will only work with an 8x/4x and a card that uses 1.5 volts.
I can't find any information about the power requirements for the Geforce 2. Additionally the card seems on the edge of compatibility with its 4x/2x rating.
Any advice as to whether it's safe to use it or not?
Thanks!
Al

if the VGA output is to your right and the AGP BUS is towards you then the pin is the 2'nd one on the right side.
Note that the pins are set in two levels in an interleaved fashion, the 1'st is lower and the one you need is on the higher level.
In AGP X2 cards the pin might be compleatly missing, so if the pin isn't there don't use the card.
http://www.hardtecs4u.com/reviews/2001/agp4x_e/index3.php

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or rather, the poorly installed drivers.
Frankenputer
I take umbrage with your statement. I installed the latest drivers from MSI correctly! I also chose not to install the very latest as they are a Beta version with the warning they may be unstable! Perhaps I was under the misguided impression that I would be better off with the latest drivers offered by MSI for the particular VGA card I paid my good money for! ( this is the main reason I thought the problem was not driver related!) It is not my fault that MSI dropped the ball in its offerings to its valued customers!
Just because I was being polite to Hans who offered so much good advice and showed such a genuine concern for my troubles doesn't mean I had not read the advice from Nvidia on how to uninstall and reinstall "their" drivers! I will admit though that from my read on Nvidias suggestions they did not go as far as to recommend uninstalling the norton works completely, only disabling it!
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and
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Thanks for the reply and the info.
Yes, they do run much quieter in 2D. But are there any decible readings anywhere on the net for the stock X800 PRO cooler (in 2d or otherwise)? I ask this because, let's face it, most reviewers tend to focus on the performance rather than the decible levels (as long as the noise level is tollerable to them, they usualy give scores without going into much detail about how loud or silent something is), and being quieter than the competing products doesn't neccesarily mean it's truly quiet.
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I would prefer the X800 XT or, at the very least, the plain 6800 128MB, as they both (even the 128MB normal 6800) score higher consistently in Doom 3 benchmarks than the normal X800 Pro (not overclocked). While I'd prefer a 256MB card over a 128MB one, and Sapphire using the VGA Silencer on their Toxic Pro is a nice touch, that card overclocks the memory freq, which is a no-no with Doom 3 from what I've heard. Doom 3 doesn't like overclocked cards, as John carmack said, and that seems to be true given that I've heard lots of people complaining of artifacts with even moderately overclocked cards, be it the memory or core frequency. I could, of course, just not use the "A.P.E." functionality, and run it at stock X800 Pro speed, and with the silence on the Toxic Pro it would be great...but then why not just get the higher performing 128MB 6800 for roughly the same price or less?
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First time poster here, so hope this is the right spot for my question.
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Cheers!

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Originally posted by Raven
you could try and flash to an older bios
I tried most anything on flashing bios, both to a lower and a higher version.
I returned the motherboard to the reseller and got a new motherboard as a replacement. This doesnt have all the same problems. At first it didnt post at all, indicating to red lights on the diagnosis.
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Its followed by "Sorry being unprofessional". But when my hard earning money draining, its obvious. Anyway, Do you have answer to my request ? Or only guiding me for proper language ? If you have ans plz give me too.
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Is it AGP card? Which one?
Do not you know MSI T-128 is which one, Mr Moderator ?
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Os running?
Windows XP SP3/ Ubuntu 9.04
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Have you tested the VGA in another machine?
After a couple of years savings, I got this PC and you are asking for another PC ? I'm not rich like you.
Hope you have NOT read my post completely and replied, Mr moderator.

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A4: The PCIe Base 2.0 specification supports both 2.5GT/s and 5GT/s signaling rates, in order to retain backward compatibility with existing PCIe 1.0 and 1.1 systems. Aside from the faster bit rate, there are a number of improvements in this new specification that allow greater flexibility and reliability in designing PCIe links. For example, the interconnect can be dynamically managed for platform power and performance considerations through software controls. Another significant RAS feature is the inclusion of new controls to allow a PCIe link to continue to function even when some lanes become non-operational.
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A5: Yes. The PCIe Base 2.0 specification supports both the 2.5GT/s and 5GT/s signaling technologies. A device designed to the PCIe Base 2.0 specification may support 2.5GT/s, 5GT/s or both. However, a device designed to operate specifically at 5GT/s must also support 2.5GT/s signaling. The PCIe Base specification covers chip-to-chip topologies on the system board. For I/O extensibility across PCIe connectors, the Card Electromechanical (CEM) and ExpressModule™ specifications will also need to be updated, but this work will not impact mechanical compatibility of the slots, cards or modules. Currently, the PCI-SIG is defining the PCIe CEM 2.0 specification which has been released to members for review at v0.5. There are currently no plans to adapt the PCIe Mini CEM specification for the faster bit rate as the market need has not yet materialized.
Quote from: >>About PCI-SIG<<
Formed in 1992, PCI-SIG (originally formed as the Peripheral Component Interconnect Special Interest Group) is the industry organization chartered with the development and management of the PCI bus specification, the industry standard for a high-performance I/O interconnect to transfer data between a CPU and its peripherals. As part of that charter, the organization aims to do the following:
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Contribute to the technical longevity of PCI
Support the establishment of PCI as an industry-wide standard

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JudyInTexas wrote "No way that will fit. There is a PCI Express card next to the video card and no empty slots on the Elite 9340f"
Since this is not the topic of the thread, it should be in a new thread. Care to provide more info and just what is expected?
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Care to provide what your statement is pertaining to?
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Msi p965 neo-f and geforce 9600gt

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When I look at the spec from my new xfx geforce 9600gt xxx card I see PCIe x16 2.0
Will this card work on my motherboard ? because when I look at the spec of my board I can see that there is 1 PCIe x16 slot and no 2.0
Will it work?
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check Amperage on +12V rails (you sum up 2 rails)
Simply adding the amperage values if there are multiple +12V rails is not the right approach to determine the maximal amperage limits for all +12V rails. You cannot simply sum up the two rails. On many PSUs, the combined amperage limit is significantly lower than the sum of the individual rails. Look at this example for instance:
If you add the amperage values on both rails together, you get 34A. However, the limit for both +12V rails (as stated on the PSU sticker) is 250W which can be broken down to 250W / 12V ~ 20.8A. So what we have here is a 20.8A limit on a +12V rail that is split into two individual rails that each have their own amperage limit. You can put 16A or 18A load on the individual rails, but not more that ~20A combined load on both. That means that if the system draws 15A from one of the rails, only ~5A are left for the other one.
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http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?language=en&act=detail&tbcate=22&id=3765
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