Msi 875 Neo safe buy?

Hi bas
My two boys want to build a game-machine each, based on the 875 chipset. We 've been reading most of the posts on the 875 Neo (our favorite board so far after reading reviews), but it's not easy to decide, whether the board is a safe buy. Will it run on Kingston HyperX PC3500 with bios 1.0, which it probably is shipped with? If we use Win XP on NTFS, must we use the floppy/ramdisk method to upgrade the bios? Would you recommend a bios-upgrade to v.1.4 or should we rather wait for the next bios from Msi?
Regards
jfn

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Originally posted by jfn
Hi bas
My two boys want to build a game-machine each, based on the 875 chipset. We 've been reading most of the posts on the 875 Neo (our favorite board so far after reading reviews), but it's not easy to decide, whether the board is a safe buy. Will it run on Kingston HyperX PC3500 with bios 1.0, which it probably is shipped with? If we use Win XP on NTFS, must we use the floppy/ramdisk method to upgrade the bios? Would you recommend a bios-upgrade to v.1.4 or should we rather wait for the next bios from Msi?
Regards
jfn
The board will probably ship with bios version 1.2, if you want to overclock, flash bios 1.3b2 onto it, else bios v1.4.

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Whew, I thought for a second there that my common sense had left me when I saw that 60-Amp-Post ^^
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Quote from: Henry on 17-July-11, 05:38:00
"I've noticed that two of the memory sticks are single sided and the other two are dual sided! Could this be the origin for the problem?"
It seems you are using 2 high density sticks and 2 low density sticks. tRFC would certainly be different between the 2. Don't mix memory like that as you will have problems. To avoid memory problems like that ensure that all 4 are the same. Best would be 2x4 GB kit. At the very least get another kit the same as the 2 new ones and don't use the old ones.
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