MSI 890FXA-GD65 North Bridge Temperatures

Hi there I have recently purchased the MSI 890FXA-GD65 for a new build. The thing that suprises me is that the temps on the North Bridge are very random. It normaly stays in the 55 C- 65 C range, but it is constantly jumping up and down in a matter of seconds. For example it goes from 58C to 65C in a second and then could drop to 55C the next second and after that could jump to 70C and it just continues playing. I am wondering if anyone else has the same issue with the readings and what could be the cause of ti?

I am waiting for a memory at the moment. However the airflow in my case is more than adequate, GPU idles at 30C and does not exceed 50 under load with the fan at 25% of the max speed. The CPU is well cooled with no fans on the heatsink (Thermalright Black 120), idling at 25C and going to 45C under load and overclocked. The RAM modules are very cool on touch as well and my MB shows constant temperature of 28C - 30C. I think its something wrong with the diode, because there is no way that the temp would jump from 55 to 70 in a second and the next second to come back down to 60. I was just wondering if someone else has similar thing with their mobo. I have got 3 year warranty on it so I am not that worried about it, plus it is not crashing or anything, its just the readings.
P.S. I forgot to mention that this is not detected as NB on any program. Instead on AIDA64 shows up as AUX temperature, and on HW Monitor comes up as TMPIN1, but I read it corresponds to NB usually. Plus this is the warmest part on touch.

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Quote from: JimmyK on 15-February-11, 22:22:46
Thanks for the reply.
Sorry to be so newby, but where do I start memtest? The reported BIOS is the same version/date code as what is available from MSI...
>>Memtest86<<
Quote from: JimmyK on 15-February-11, 22:26:23
Thanks for the reply. I am using the DVI output on the video card connected to a VGA monitor with an DVI-VGA adapter.
No external USB connections have ever been installed.
I don't have any other DDR3 laying around. Is there a recommended memory list on the MSI site? I couldn't find one.
Regards
http://www.msi.com/file/test_report/TR10_2220.pdf
However its down to the CPU as memory controller is there.
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Good evening!
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Well, seems that there may be some inconsistency on the website with regards to the AM3 and AM3+ classification then:
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Thus my earlier response. Apologies if that was incorrect.
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Quote from: Mark on 29-January-11, 04:19:56
Since you're running an overclocked system, if you restore all settings to default what speed is reported then?
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Trying to catch the points that weren't explicitly spoken to by me in the last attempt:
@Stu - Regarding testing with zero USB devices connected - this was done as part of troubleshooting and it has no observable effect, so I think that I can rule out a bad USB device being the culprit and I apologize for not making that clear previously.
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Quote from: Bas on 15-January-12, 01:48:39
You are talking to yourself, as I see nobody else reporting this in the forum.
I can only conclude that your "issue" is within your Windows.
Ergo format your harddisk and install Windows from scratch.
No need to be patronising Bas. The "issue" is not with my windows.
This is an issue with all AM3+ with Bulldozer chips installed, boards from all vendors, MSI released a fix for the 990FXA-GD80, but both 890's and the 990FXA-GD65 haven't had the fix released, I'm talking to myself because it is quite a niche problem, not that many people using FX chips that want to play the 4 or 5 games affected by this problem. There have been other forum posts relating to this issue regarding other boards.
However to prove a point, this problem has persisted over a Radeon 5870 and Radeon 6850 and about 5 complete formats and reinstalls on a Samsung 500gb F3 and a Crucial M4 SSD and 2 bios flashes to the latest bios.
It's a problem conceded by Steam and AMD, and isn't an "issue" I have concocted to scapegoat an issue I can't find.
Here are some links to prove that I am not just a mentalist posting about a non existent "issue".
Steam Support - https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=3762-FHLN-3558
Steam Forum - http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2215754
Bit Tech - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/12/amd-fx-8150-review/9
AMD - http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/STEAMGamesonAMDFXplatforms.aspx
There is a temporary fix which can be found here - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?276698-A-fix-for-Valve-CEG-games-causing-BSOD-on-Bulldozer-issue&s=bfde4e4ce0d2d25b909c48e461f4e7d2
Unfortunately within about 30 minutes to 2 hours of playtime the BSOD hits even using this workaround.
Here is a thread on this very forum for this "issue" on the 990FXA-GD80 - https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=154543.0
I've tried playing a friends boxed copy of Shogun 2 (one of the titles effected) and it installs and runs with no issues, further underlining that this is a problem with the DRM associated with Steam and how it interacts with the FX chips on this bios and not my Windows installation.
The problem also doesn't persist when I replace the FX chip with a Phenom 2 Socket AM3 chip using all the same hardward.
Trust me Bas, I wouldn't be posting here that this was the "issue" if it wasn't. I build an average of 2-4 machines a month (all with MSI mainboards, but mostly socket 1155), and am big enough and ugly enough to fix any issues I create. I chose to build my own desktop using socket AM3+, so I could have a play with the new Bulldozer architecture before recommending it to people. Unfortunately it looks like I'm gonna continue recommending Sandybridge for the time being at least.

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Temp. is fine for the graphics card. About the PSU "650 Watt" tells us very little, for many reasons. When it comex to Thermaltake, my own experience says they are usually over-speced and -priced, but have rather low efficiency. My system's power consumption went down from 110 to 74 Watt when I replaced my Thermaltake Toughpower. ...But that was some time ago.
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