MSI 890FXA-GD70 - MB not booting with 8 pin power connected

Hello, and thanks for any assistance that can be provided:
current setup is:
MSI 890FXA-GD70
CORSAIR Professional Series AX1200 1200W ATX12V v2.31
AMD Phenom II X4 975 Black Edition Deneb 3.6GHz 4 x 512KB
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) (Currently 1 stick only in DIMM 1)
When i try booting the MB with both the 24 pin and 8 pin connectors in place, the power led flashes once and i get a click out of my power supply.
When i remove the 8 pin, the MB boots as normal. I've verified there are no extra spacers behind the board, and I have tried 2 different 8 pin cords, both were seated properly in the PSU and the MB.
I'm continuing to look back in the forums, just not seeing a solution. any ideas?

Hello and welcome!
Eight-pin? Are you sure? I can find a 4-pin. But then I'm old and it is late here.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/890FXA-GD70.html#/?div=Manual
Oh, now I see the light! Only use the 4-pins - of the 8 - towards the top. The other 4 are covered normally.

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•   AMD Phenom II 965 Black Edition CPU (NEW)
•   MSI 890FXA-GD70 Motherboard (NEW)
•   G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) (NEW)
•   XFX 9800 GTX+ 512MB nvidia GPU
•   Western Digital 1TB HDD SATA 7200RPM
•   Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 500W ATX12V SLI Ready Modular Power Supply (+3.3V@32A, +5V@35A, +12V1@17A, +12V2@19A, [email protected], +5VSB@2A)

Code FF :( Please Help MSI 890FXA-GD70

Specs:
MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3+ AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
EVGA GeForce GTX460 1 GB Superclocked GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card -
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB Bulk/OEM Hard Drive 3.5 Inch, 32 MB Cache, 7200 RPM SATA II
Corsair - Gaming Series 700-Watt ATX CPU Power Supply
I had everything working for 8 months or so then everything suddenly went bonkers....my cpu wouldn't start up. I replaced my PSU and took everything apart and I had it working outside of my case for 2 weeks and then it decided not to start up again.....I resat all components with no luck.
I RMA'd my motherboard to MSI and had it swapped out. Now....I went to reseat everything and like an idiot; I had spilled excess arctic silver 5 onto the mainboard socket and the PCU. I cleaned everything best I could without any solution and tried to start it up; CODE FF (only using 1 stick of ram and video card).
I did some reading and picked up some loctite electrical cleaner http://www.rshughes.com/products/079340_1174633.html
and cleaned everything out. I used a fine brush to clean out the socket.
Now; I installed pcu; heat sink; 1 stick ram (tried all slots) video card. I also made sure my power connections were hooked up---pcu and mainboard---I still get a code FF immediately..no post; nothing. Every time it goes to code FF and nothing else. Fans run and the all lights on the motherboard light up...the PCU lights are on as well. (all 4)
I've tried every solution I've read on this board and whatever google could find for me....my questions is (sorry for long story); should I just replace my PCU and motherboard as I messed it up with the arctic 5?
Thanks for any insight!

Quote from: Scrumhalf01 on 29-February-12, 22:57:23
Don't have the spare parts or I would have done that.....do computer shops willingly let you test out pieces you bring in to their shops? If there was an issue with the motherboard could it fry the new pcu installed?
Quote from: Scrumhalf01 on 29-February-12, 22:57:23
Don't have the spare parts or I would have done that.....do computer shops willingly let you test out pieces you bring in to their shops?
yes eventually, you have to ask them
Quote
If there was an issue with the motherboard could it fry the new pcu installed?
yes its possible

IMPORTANT Technical Information RE: 890FXA-GD70 - BIOS/Memory/Boot-UP Issues

I have been having the same problem (see my post...user 'n9nu') as many others have and I have been researching this problem for a month now and come across a few important pages on other web-sites that address this very problem. While I have not read over 100 percent of them completely, they all pertain specifically to these situations with several users being able to resolve their issue(s) with the following sources. Several of the posts mention the instability with a few of the BIOS versions (1.8 and 1.9), so read up on these as well.
TROUBLESHOOTING THE MSI 890FXA-GD70 BIOS, STARTUP AND MEMORY ERRORS/ISSUES
My currently installed BIOS: Version 1.9
Motherboard hardware revision: Version 1.1
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1066 8GB Kit
GPU: nVidia 590 Reference GPU
Overclock.net
http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/724846-official-msi-890fx-890gx-890g-club.html - 'Official' 890FXA-GD70 Users Club (No affiliation with MSI)
http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/770915-i-toasted-my-msi-890fx-gd70.html - Gee....a specific club for those who own dead 890's
Tom's Hardware
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/309538-31-solved-890fxa-gd70-debug-code-load-edit-bios - BIOS FF Errors
TechArena
http://forums.techarena.in/overclocking-computer-modification/1401757.htm - FF BIOS Issues
http://forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1402256.htm - BIOS & Start-up issues
http://forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1401777.htm - Pre-Purchase Information
http://forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1411672.htm - Memory/BIOS Issues
http://forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1401689.htm - FF Errors after upgrading BIOS
NCIX Forums
http://forum.ncixus.com/forums/?mode=showthread&forum=116&threadid=2282823&pagenumber=0&msgcount=0&subpage=1 - BIOS Code 'FF' & Cycling errors (re-starting)
Computerforum
http://www.computerforum.com/179382-msi-mobo-help.html - More BIOS 'FF' issues
The above references are just several posts that discuss and in some cases alleviate problems with this motherboard. Upon trying one of the more popular methods to attempt a boot-up, I successfully booted in BIOS bypassing that rude 'FF' BIOS code....however the happiness was short lived as I configured some settings in the BIOS and when I restart was presented with the FF again.
The method I used was to place one (1) stick of DDR3 memory in memory slot 4 (the furthest away from the processor) and was kinda surprised that it worked....and while happy, I didn't hold my breath.
I have BIOS version 1.9 currently installed and have been noticing many problems with that particular release, so I will be attempting to re-flash the BIOS to either 1.7 to bypass some of the other issues being reported or try version 1.8 again. I will keep on posting when I receive further information or come across a sure fix for this (a user oriented fix that is)...otherwise, it is going back for another RMA.
I am working with someone that I know that tricks out BIOS code in order to enhance/unlock/fix them and he is presently looking at it using the exact same hardware that I am to try and find out just what the exact issue(s) are and how to resolve them. This, of course, has nothing to do with MSI, but rather an attempt by someone who programs these for a living just to see whats what.
Tim
ARS N9NU

After spending 12-14 hours on the problem i can now safely give a detailed report of the problem
Disregard what i said before as they were just symptoms of another problem
It boots 100% stable if DIMM slots 1 2 and 3 are empty
it does not matter the make or model of the ram in slot 4 but the system boots and works flawlessly.
I ran extensive tests with prime 95 and memory tests. It works flawlessly in this configuration.
As soon as a stick of ram goes into any other slot either singular or dual channel the board does a rapid boot cycle
this constant power on and off if left too long corrupts the bios settings
bios setting problem is rectified by putting one stick of ram into dimm 4 and letting it reset itself in a stable enviorment
also while the system is stable i used the MSI software to check all the voltages and everything appeared normal
However
if i make the system boot with standard memory configuration such as one in DIMM 1 or 1+2 i get odd voltage readings
(extremely unstable if im lucky enough to get it to boot)
the NB voltage quickly fluctuates between 1.15 and 1.7+ every min or so like if there are micro spikes in voltage
While this happens the 2 lights next to the slots indicating i believe the dram power phase blink
But
When i only put a ram stick into DIMM 4 only one light for the powerphase is lit and it is stable
So this so far is not a corrupt BIOS chip to me but rather a symptom of another problem
I have another CPU coming in the mail tommorow I will test it out along with a few other boards
a 1090T
2 890fxa-gd70's and some others
If i have a hardware problem it will surely be singled out
I will find out what the problem is with this board and post my result.
If anyone has any suggestions to make this board work please comment

MSI 890FXA-GD70 and 3Ware 9750-4i BIOS issues

This is my second build with this motherboard. This post is just to help anyone who might be trying to get similar hardware combinations to work.
The BIOS revision is 1.7, which was the revision the board came with.
When running with a 3Ware 9750-4i board you will find that the 3Ware BIOS will complain about not being able to install. At first it was complaining about the motherboard BIS not providing enough RAM to live in, but after I set the on-board SATA controller to AHCI is stopped complaining and just didn't show up at all.
Now, don't be discouraged if you aren't booting from the 3Ware controller, because this won't stop it from working. When the OS loads the driver, everything is fine.
I suspect it would also work if you completely disabled the on-board controller, but that wasn't an option for me. I wanted to run three additional HDs and two optical drives on that controller, as well as the four drives on the 3Ware.
I kept experimenting with slot positions for the cards, but nothing produced a change at all.
Finally I spent time in the OS trying to make the AHCI drivers for the on-board controller work with connect/disconnect. There appeared no way in Win7 x64 to get any AHCI drivers to load but the default Microsoft ones, which don't support hot-swap or even connect/disconnect.
It appeared to me that the only AHCI drivers supplied by AMD or MSI specifically work only when the controller is in RAID mode. So I tried setting the controller to RAID mode in the BIOS, and discovered that it now played nice with the 3Ware BIOS. Now I am going to reinstall Windows 7 with the 3Ware drivers and select a 3Ware drive to boot from, to see if I can get the AMD or MSI-supplied drivers to work with the on-board controller. I suspect I will get all the features promised then. If I don't, I will return here and report the results.

I completed the new install of Win7 - this time with the 3ware controller as the primary, and the on-board SATA set to RAID.
First, I had to load drivers for the on-board RAID during the install, just to let the install continue. Then I had to load drivers to tell Win7 about the drive where I wanted to install. I thought it would ask for both up front, but it wouldn't take both - it only wanted the drivers for the controller to which the DVD was connected. THEN, after it was ready to ask for a location for the install, it let me put the 3ware drivers up.
Once the system was loaded, I was disappointed to find that none of the on-board RAID drives showed up in the add/remove dialog, but I was able to use a utility to make them work with hot-swapping. It is called Hotswap!
http://mt-naka.com/hotswap/index_enu.htm
and it allowed me to connect/disconnect drives plugged into the on-board controller housed in the Thermaltake MAX-2533.
With the settings like that, the BIOS issues disappear, with both the on-board RAID and the 3ware co-existing nicely. This indicates to me that there is likely something wrong with the standard AHCI BIOS-related screen that makes the 3ware controller unhappy. I doubt the 3ware is the only BIOS-installing card to feel that way, so if you have your drives set to AHCI, but have issues with any other cards, you might look into setting the drives to RAID or to IDE (though you lose some features like NCQ)
I also forgot to mention that I also have a four-port PCI-Express NIC from Intel in the system, so I have updated the system summary below:
MSI 890FXA-GD70 | AMD Phenom II X6 1090T | ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B | CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B | HIS Silence H557HR1G Radeon HD 5570 | Antec Solo Black case | Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2 | 3ware LSI00216 (9750-4i) | Intel PRO/1000 PT Quad Port NIC | Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS (x7) | Thermaltake MAX-2533 | Plextor PX-L890SA | Plextor PX-B940SA-11

MSI 890FXA-GD70 issues

Hi all,
I recently received my MSI 890FXA-GD70 and am having a few problems.
Firstly if I enable C1E in the bios the computer reboots as soon as it enters windows(short glimpse of desktop). This occurs in safemode aswell.
I have tried many different combinations of disabling turbo core and cool&quiet etc but it made no difference.
This occurs on stock settings even when loading defaults in bios.
Secondly I have Apacer Giant II 2x 2GB DDR3 240-Pin DIMM, 1.65V [PC17600].
This ram can apparently run 2200MHz with 10-10-10-30 2T timings.
If I overclock slightly and set the RAM ratio to highest ratio then the system will not post and normally requires me using the cmos reset jumper. The ram speed is normally around 1900MHz at the overclock I desire. I have the above timings in place and have set the DRAM voltage to 1.65V
From what I can tell the motherboard is supposed to be able to run 2133MHz.
If I simply lower the multiplier so that the ram is running close to 1333MHz no issues.
Am I doing something wrong when it comes to running the ram at higher clock speeds?
I read somewhere that I should increase the CPU-NB voltage. I set this to one below red and I currently have the ram running at 1712MHz with 10-10-10-29 1T.
I am not sure what is safe here, but I do have pretty good flow in my case.
It seems that increasing this voltage must be necessary, but I would like someone elses opinion if possible.
Thanks for any help in advamce
System specs:
MSI 890FXA-GD70 Bios 1.6
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
Apacer Giant II 2x 2GB DDR3 240-Pin DIMM, 1.65V [PC17600]
MSI 8800GT OC 512Mb
Huntkey 600W PSU
Corsair H50 in push pull config
CM Storm case

Haha thx for that. Rookie mistake...
For all the other timings I was just pressing enter and changing it like that.
As for the C1E thing, even when its stock standard doesn't seem to work. It doesn't really bother me though.
Seems like the cool and quiet is clocking down the cpu anyway.
Is there anyway to test the turbo core easily, seems sort of random when it decides it will activate it.
I tried running prime on only 2 cores but it splits the load over all 6.
Any ideas of the ram speed. It should be able to run at least 1800+.
Any specific voltages I should increase?
Also when overclocking I have disabled the cpu phase control and left the ddr phase on, as I am not adding any extra voltage to the ram.
Not sure if this is correct, but if I clock to 4GHz with 1.377V then ControlCenter reports about 240W when under full load with Prime.
Thanks

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