MSI 9800 PRO - Theatre Clone mode Not Active!!!

Hi...
MY monitor is wide and icons seems on TV when i drag them to the right side..so I want to activate Theatre Clone MOde .but it is inactive....
How wil i activate?

What Bas said about 30+ amps on the 12v rail does have merit. Even if you don't use it now there may come a time when you want to upgrade the system and certainly you won't want to buy yet another PSU then. A High end vid card now takes almost as much as the CPU to operate. Now days the 12v rail is the most important. Past systems regulated everything off the 5v railk and 12v was used mostly for powering drive motors. Now though the MB's use the 12v line to regulate all the voltages for the CPU, Chipset and other features as does the Vid cards. 3.3 volt lines are used for memory so we hardly use any 5v nowdays.
You have an older viod card and that does not eat much 12v but if you upgrade the most likely peice will be the vid card. You could go through this whole thing all over again if you are not careful to plan for that now with a new PSU purchase.
If the computer shop gives you a bunch of bull about power needs havbe them stop by the forum and we can help set them straight on this. There is more than enough data from MSI and historical data here that suggests that 16a on the 12v rail is certainly not enough. Hey I am not trying to sell you anything. I am just trying to help you get it right. The computer shop is the one trying to sell you something we just feel they are selling the wrong junk.

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Regards

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Originally posted by [T-A]_Super_10
Be careful on your ram as the 9800Pros run hot, I added ram sinks and they get super hot to the touch, The card is fast enough stock unless your wanting some higher benchmarks its best to just leave at stock settings.
I DONT GIVE A but thanks for the warning.
if i break my card due to overclocking i go to the store and will probably have a new card on my way home.
i used my head when i bought it so i went to a store i know is good but they are a bit more expensive than others.
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monoperez
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http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=576
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bad news everyone:
Dear Dutchy,
All MSI made 9800 card does not have ViVo function:
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_list.asp?class=vga&cpu=2
Sincerely,
Technical Support Division
MSI Computer Corp.
http://www.msicomputer.com

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