MSI Afterburner VGA Overclocking/Tweaking Tool
Thank you MSI for MSI Afterburner, Overclocking and Voltage Control!!!
There is a new version available: Afterburner v.1.2.0 (2009-10-12)
Changelog:
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- Add voltage adjustment of ATI Radeon HD 5870 and 5850
- Added NVIDIA G 210 and GT 240 series graphics cards support
- Added voltage control for custom design MSI N220GT and N240GT series graphics cards with uP6262 voltage regulators
- Added intitial AMD RADEON HD 5750 and AMD RADEON HD 5770 series graphics cards support
- Added Logitech keyboards LCD displays support. Now it is possible to display hardware monitor data in Logitech keyboards LCD
- Extended I2C address scanning range for uP6208 voltage regulators to allow supporting voltage control on non-MSI custom design graphics cards equipped with uP6208
- Fixed on-board memory size detection for AMD RADEON HD 5000 series graphics cards
- Now option also affects voltage control
- Fixed database entry for AMD RADEON HD 4890 series graphics cards. Afterburner no longer adjusts 2D voltage instead of 3D voltage on AMD RADEON HD 4890
- Fixed database entry for AMD RADEON HD 5850 series graphics cards. Afterburner no longer adjusts UVD voltage instead of 3D voltage on AMD RADEON HD 5850
- Automatic profiles manager is now restarted after resuming from suspended mode
- Revised VRM access synchronization protocol for safer simultaneous VRM polling by multiple software products at the same time
- Added setting to the context menu of detached hardware monitor window. When this option is disabled, hardware monitor window can be minimized to the taskbar while staying in detached mode
- Now it is possible to pause hardware monitor activity via option in the context menu of hardware monitor window
- Maximum allowed hardware polling period has been extended from 5 to 60 seconds
- Added configuration file setting allowing power users to display performance profiler status informaition in the hardware monitor window. The information allows estimating average CPU performance hit caused by hardware monitor and software automatic fan control layers
- Optimized timer message queue processing under high CPU load conditions for better hardware monitoring and software automatic fan control events handling
- Reduced CPU usage for simultaneous GPU clock frequency and GPU usage readings on AMD graphics cards, both values are being read in single pass now
- Maximum limits has been extended from 1000 to 1500MHz for core clock graph and from 2000 to 2500MHz for shader clock and memory clock graphs
- Added readme file and option to display it in the installer
- Now tab is not displayed in advanced settings window if there are no fan control capable GPUs in the system
- Updated context help files, added more hints to button help
Download: http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm
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MSI afterburner and overclocking
I am apologizing in advance. I am noob regarding overclocking and stuff like that.
I installed MSI afterburner now and before that i only have had MSI gaming app. I don't want to harm my PC with noobish overclocking cos i am noob. Is it enough just to turn on that afterburner and msi gaming app just to boost my gaming performance or i need to to a bit more in that afterburner?Quote
I just want smoother gameplay and lower temperature ig possible
Smoother gameplay requires more performance, more performance generates more heat, more heat needs more cooling, meaning the fans will spin up and make more noise.
To be honest, with that GPU, you should have good gameplay all round. What temperatures do you see as being problematic? Perhaps you could give an example of what FPS in what game and at what screen resolution and game detail.
Is your CPU bottlenecking?
Run HWInfo64 in the background. It logs the highest utilization values of all monitored paramaters. Then after gaming you will be able to see if your CPU is actually being saturated, something I doubt, but its not impossible. -
The MSI Afterburner is a great tool for monitoring your vga's health status as well as overclocking it including tweaking voltages.
Monitoring
In case you came her with a vga related problems you might be asked to tell about the load and idle temps of your vga.
So first we focus on how to monitor temps.
First we start Afterburner and see this.
Just for monitoring we don't need the sliders visible as these are for tweaking/oc and we take care of that later. To the right there is a window with different graphs of all kinds of temps and voltages. There you can montiore the idle status but that won't really help you to see what happens in a game. You will only know about your temps under load in the moment your gaming and not when already leaving the game. At least the graphs will show the temps as a graph so you can read up temps of past times also but it is quite complicated to find the temp spike of the right time and read up the value.
It's easier to have the temps and voltages displayed in the game with an OSD (note: OSD doesn't work in 64bit applications). To get that work you need to activate it.
First click on "Settings"
Now go to "monitoring" in the Settings menu
In "Active hardware monitoring graphs" you can choose what should be displayed in OSD.
On the left you have the possible graphs to be selected. When you click on a graph you activate it and the symbol next to it lights up. Now you have to choose the properties of that graph. That is done by clicking on "Show in On-Screen Display" or "Show in Logitech keyboard LCD Display" or "Show in tray icon". Choosing "Show in On-Screen Display" means the graph will be shown in the game while LCD means it will be shown on a supported LCD of a Logitech Keyboard (e.g. G510). These both options are therefor ideal to checkout load temps and voltages.
Please note that there is also a graph for Famerate to be activated to even monitor FPS in games
After setting the graphs you want to be displayed just click on "ok" and you are done. NOTE: Only graphs of sensors that can be read out can be selected. Some cards won't be able to support gpu voltage monitoring hence that graph can't be selected.
If needed you can also add hotkeys for the OSD in On-Screen Display. By clicking on "More" you have the ability to mod the look and layout of the OSD as well as setting up profiles.
Now after starting a game you can see the graphs selected displayed inside your game so you can see what happens while you are gaming and you can also find out how your vga's status will change in any game situation
Fan control
After monitoring temps you might have seen too high temps and want to lower them or you want more cooling in oc attempts. Also could be you saw low temps but your card is very noisy because of high fan speeds. All that could make it necessary to change the fan speed manually instead of auto control
After deactivating auto control by clicking on "Auto" you can move the slider between Min and Max to select the fan speed in %. Setting 68 therefor means fan will be running at 68% of it's full speed. After selecting click on "Apply" to apply the chosen fan speed.
Besides a static speed you can also program a custom fan profile with clicking on "Fan" in "Settings" afterwards just deactivate auto control and activate "User Define"
Checking stability with Kombustor
Along with Afterburner the downloaded archive also contains Kombustor. Kombustor is a burn-in vga tool like Furmark which will apply very massive load to your vga and will reveal thermal and stability problems when letting it run for some time.
After installing you can start it out of Afterburner by clicking on the "K" to left
Overclocking and Overvolting
With the Core Clock and Memory Clock sliders you can tweak the clockrates of the Gpu and the VRAM. The Mhz value selected adds or reduces the stock clockrates. That means e.g. setting +65 for Gpu will add 65Mhz to the stock clockrate. Setting -50Mhz will reduce the stock clockrate by 50Mhz. To apply your oc remember to always click on "Apply"
Overvolting with the overvolting slider will work the same way what means what you set will be added to the stock voltage. Note that overvolting gpu on Kepler (GTX600) is limited on non unlocked cards (Lightning/Hawk) to the nvidia max of 1.175v and setting anything else will therefor be useless.
If overvolting is greyed out and can't be changed you have to activate it in "Settings"/"General".
Simply check "Unlock voltage control" and "Unlock voltage monitoring"
NOTE: Despite mistakable informations on the web the only MSI Radeon 7850/7770 cards able to overvolt are R7850 Power Edition 2GD5/(OC) and R7770 Power Edition 1GD5/(OC). Due to technical restrictions all other 7850/7770 models can't be overvolted therefor overvoltage slider won't be available.
Triple overvolting will only be available with Lightning, Hawk or Power Edition cards and is a unique MSI feature that won't work with any other manufacturers card.
On supported cards you can access it (after enabling overvoltage, see above) when clicking on the grey symbol next to the voltage slider
the voltage slider will then change to triple overvoltage (core/mem/aux)
Note that triple overvoltage for Lightning and Power Edition GTX680 & GTX670 vgas will require Afterburner version 2.2.3, the latest GTX 660 & 650 cards will require Afterburner 2.2.4 or above. GTX680/770/780 Lightning users must use an unlocked Afterburner version for full triple overvoltage abilities (Nvidia gpu voltage limit). Until Version 3.0.0 Beta 17 a special SE variant was required. With 3.0.0 Beta 18 the SE version has been merged to the normal version. To unlock the advanced voltage settings simply go to "General" tab of the settings, check "unlock Voltage control and choose "extended MSI"
Power Limit
The Power Limit slider is only accessible on GTX600 or above cards as it is required to modify the unique GPU boost feature. GPU boost is nvidia's auto oc feature for Kepler cards and will increase clockrate when not reaching the pre-defined TDP value under load. With the Power limit slider you can change the TDP limit in %. Anything over 100% will extend the limit and enable the gpu to boost clockrate while already at 100% TDP.
If the Power limit is not visible although you are using a GTX600 vga you chose the wrong afterburner skin in "Settings"/"User Interface" The Power Limit slider will only be visible with "Default MSI Afterburner Skin"
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Temp Limit
With the new GeForce GTX7xx / Titan series vgas came an enhanced version of the boost introduced with GTX6xx vgas. Boost 2.0 adds a Temp Limit to the previous Power Limit. So now the available boost is not only determined by the Power Limit but also by the set Temp limit. To change the Temp limit you need a supporting version of Afterburner (3.00 Beta 10 and above). Click on the down arrow next to the Power limit slider and Temp Limit becomes available.
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By default Temp limit is set to a target temp of 79°C what means anything below will allow max boost. Increasing Temp limit will allow boosting at higher temps. In standard configuration Power and Temp limit are linked what means increasing Power Limit will also increase Temp limit. If you want to change that and set individually uncheck "Link". Clicking on "Prioritize" you can decide if Temp or TDP Limit should be the primary factor to determine boost.
Gaming APP
Another thing which needs to be kept in mind is that maximum clockrates for the latest GeForce GTX7xx Gaming requires running >>Gaming APP<<. Switch to Gaming Mode (N770 TF 2GD5/OC (GeForce GTX 770 GAMING)) or OC Mode (N780 TF 3GD5/OC (GeForce GTX 780 GAMING)) to allow maximum boost clockrates.
Oc Profiles and starting up with oc
After tweaking clockrates, voltages and power limit you can setup five profiles with these values. Just click on a profile number followed by clicking save. Now you can change between your profiles by choosing the number of it.
If you want to startup with the oc applied just click on "Apply overclocking at system startup" and make sure the green button left on that lights up in green.
Dragon Army Skins
A nice modification for Afterburner are the new MSI Gaming series skins to adapt to the latest MSI Gaming lineup: http://game.msi.com/
Just download the skins >>here<< and copy them in your Skins folder in the MSI Afterburner main folder. After restarting Afterburner you can now choose the Dragon Army Skins in "Settings"/"User Interface". Dargon Army Skins are included by default from Afterburner 3.0.0 Beta 18 and above and can there be chosen like shown before.Version update
Afterburner 4.0.0 final/stable is out. Click >>here<< for download.
This is a new official version.
SE version and normal are merged to one now
Release info:
Quote from: http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=4905781&postcount=1
Changes list includes:
• Added MSI R9 280 series voltage control support
• Added AMD Tonga graphics processors family support
• Added core voltage control for reference design AMD RADEON R9 285X series graphics cards with NCP81022 voltage regulators
• Added official overclocking limits extension support for AMD Tonga graphics processors. Please take a note that unofficial overclocking mode is currently not supported for AMD Tonga graphics processors family
• Various parts of hardware monitoring module have been pumped up to improve hardware monitoring usability and flexibility:
o Added layered monitoring graphs rendering mode. Now you may right click source graph in monitoring window, select “Attach” in the context menu then point to destination graph to attach source graph to it and create a group of layered graphs. This feature allows you to render as many layered graphs on the same grid as you wish. The colors of graphs in layered rendering mode can be customized independently of each other so you can easily identify them
o Added multi-column monitoring graphs rendering mode. Now you can adjust the number of graph columns in “Active monitoring graphs” section in “Monitoring” tab
o Added “Override graph name” option to “Monitoring” tab. Now you can rename the graphs displayed in hardware monitoring window
o Monitoring history buffer size is no longer defined by monitoring window width. Now pre-history buffer size is fixed and stores the last 3600 samples (1 hour for 1000ms polling period) for each graph
o Improved tray icon monitoring module:
o Now you can select either text mode or barchart indicator mode for each value displayed in tray icon. Barchart indicator mode can be extremely useful for visualizing data like GPU / CPU usage
o Improved Logitech keyboard LCD monitoring module:
o Ported to new Logitech API to provide support for newer Logitech LCD displays
o Added support for color LCD display of Logitech G19/G19s keyboards
o Added graph mode support for color LCD display of Logitech G19/G19s keyboards. Now in addition to previously available text mode you can optionally select graph mode and see exact copy of MSI Afterburner’s monitoring graphs displayed directly inside the keyboard LCD. You can also press “Menu” soft button on your Logitech G19/G19S keyboard to toggle between text and graph modes dynamically in realtime
o Added acceleration support to LCD scrolling implementation
o Added larger 8x12, 10x12, 12x12 and 12x16 fonts support for text mode
• Added “Regional settings” section to “User Interface” tab:
o Temperature format settings allow you to switch between Celsius and Fahrenheit format for monitored temperatures. Please take a note that this setting affects temperature readouts only. Hardware related temperature adjustments (e.g. fan speed to temperature mapping curve for all cards or temperature target adjustment for NVIDIA Kepler series) are always being displayed and adjusted in Celsius for maximum unification, safety and compatibility
o 12 hours / 24 hours time format settings allow you to configure time format for On-Screen Display and hardware monitoring window
• Added “Enable low-level IO driver” option to the “Compatibility properties” section in “General” tab
• Added SLI sync performance limit graph for release 340 and newer NVIDIA drivers
• Display device enumeration implementation has been modified slightly to allow monitoring Intel iGPUs when low-level IO driver is not enabled
• Improved handshaking algorithm reduces the risk of seeing multiple running instances of child processes (e.g. RTSS)
• Optimized hardware polling for NVIDIA graphics cards
• Optimized hardware polling for multi-GPU systems
• Added SVI2 voltage control support via AMD ADL SDK to provide compatibility with future graphics cards
• Added automatic prerecording settings to “Videocapture” tab. When you enable automatic mode prerecording session is being started automatically on each 3D application startup. Please take a note that in this case you can still use video prerecord hotkey to stop then manually restart prerecording session if necessary
• Drastically improved skin engine:
o Improved skin compiler gives more detailed error messages when skin compilation fail due to error in some source image file
o Source image file format is no longer limited to 24-bit BMP files only. Now skin compiler supports all possible bit depths for BMP format and fully supports PNG format with alpha channel
o Added built-in bitmap effect for extracting alpha-channel from PNG image files
o Skin format has been upgraded to v1.3. New format supports alpha channel based transparency for skinned window, allowing skin designers to define semi-transparent skin areas, apply antialiasing to the skin window edges and so on
o Added new skinned window composition modes support and “Skin composition mode” settings to “User interface tab”. New settings allows you to use one of the following modes:
o Traditional mode – suits best for backward compatibility with existing skins and performance testing
o Layered mode with colorkey - provides much faster rendering of skins with non-rectangular window shape and additionally allows you to adjust transparency of skinned window
o Layered mode with alpha – provides per-pixel alpha channel support and advanced visual effects for compatible skins and also allows you to adjust transparency of skinned window
o Skin format reference guide has been updated to v1.7 to document these changes
o Improved implementation of rollback to default skin
o Full skins cross-compatibility with other overclocking applications based on RivaTuner engine. Special GUI transformation layer allows you to use the skins designed for third party RivaTuner based overclocking applications and makes the process of migration to MSI Afterburner from such overclocking tools much more comfortable for you. You can keep the look and feel of your preferred overclocking application and at the same time enjoy extended MSI Afterburner’s features including full range of supported graphics cards, industry leading powerful and robust monitoring module, flexible video recording features and many more
• RivaTuner Statistics Server has been upgraded to v6.2.0
The added MSI R9 280 series voltage control support might be what many of the users of these cards are waiting for as the majority lacked any overvoltage support so far. After release of 4.0.0 final there will be no more public betas of Afterburner but private testing as said before. -
MSI Afterburner When OC my gpu it is touching 95c.Is it normal
I bought a new msi 5770 with voltage tweak.My gpu temp will around 40-50c in ideal mode.And 80-95c under heaviy load.When OC my gpu it is touching >>95c.Is it normal or not??.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I ONLY USED MSI AFTERBURNER FOR OVERCLOCKING THE GPU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
MY config is
Intel Core 2 duo e4400(2.00 Ghz)
2 gb RAM(1+1 mode)
Intel 945 GCNL mainboard
standard 450 watt PSU
Plz.advice meQuote from: J_C_9 on 14-March-10, 07:05:52
Personally, I don't like running a GPU over 80C. Someone implied that their (one year old card?) card hasn't died yet running hotter, but that is definitely no proof at all it won't die prematurely...
Trust me, they are designed for it, check the whitepages on ATi or NVidia.
Ive been running a 9800GTX for almost 30 months with temps reaching 85 Celsius regurlarly and it hasnt had a hickup yet.
Must add thats its a pre oc-ed one and I never got it higher, tried, but didnt work.
So to say it will die prematurely, is a bit shortsighted in my opion.
Read the net and reviews and youll see it common nowadayds that gpu's run that hot, since gpu computing and gaming are getting more and more gpu intensive.
Ill bet there are even people out there, that fold or grid on it and they run systems 24/7 for years and years with the same cards and having zero issues and they run temps around the 80's/85's too, just like on my system, especially if you have 2 or more cards on the same board.
You really think that gpu manufacturers havent thought about it?
As long as you dont fiddle with voltage tweaks, get a good case airflow and keep it under 90C youll be just fine.
But thats mine opinion -
SCM, MSI VGA Overclock tool & LED backlight app - GT70 0ND
Hey all, just have a few questions regarding these things.
Firstly, what are the SCM and VGA Overclock tool and what do they do? They are always running in the background but I cant actually open any window if I click on them.. do they need to be installed?
Also, I can turn on or off the LED keyboard using the touch pad, but I cant seem to find the app (Or program) that allows you to customize the colours on my keyboard. Where do I find this program and what is it called? Do I have to download it?Quote from: Buluunee on 07-February-13, 18:04:01
Vgaoc utility works with turbo button on the led panel
Wow - cheers
Something else I have learnt today. So, changing the NVidia 3D option to be always on was not the cause? -
MSI afterburner causing driver crashing and artifacting with no overclock.
I almost RMA'd my 2 980's due to the artifacting and driver crashing I was getting. then I remembered that I had just installed MSI afterburner ONLY for the fan profile.
I uninstalled MSI afterburner and the problems went away.
Specs: win 8.1 x 64
2x 980's in sli.
Asus maximums VII hero
i7 4770k.
8 gb ddr3 2133 ram.
This happened on my brothers system as well, i7 2600k
win 8.1 x 64
It might just be a win 8.1 or 8.1 x 64 compatibility issue?
Idk, what I do know is I won't be using this product for a while, if at all anymore..Hi
I suggest you open a thread here:
http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55
As Guru3D dedicated one spot for Afterburner bugs/issues and that;s where it's best to ask if you have issues with MSI AB. -
MSI Afterburner 2.2.4 - Voltage oc nerf for GTX 670 PE / GTX 680 Lightning
Looks like Nvidia has given MSI a bashing for allowing voltage adjustments with these cards.
Disappointing as the actual box states:
Quote from: mikeo, OcUK Forums
Yet another new version just released:
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm#
MSI Afterburner Version 2.2.4 (2012/9/18)
- Added new graphics cards support
- Change the NVIDIA Kepler series voltage control mode
And it's the 2nd item that is maybe of interest to those of us with Kepler based GPU's! Basically the GPU core voltage has been now locked for all cards (including the 680 Lightening and the 670 PE) to 1.175v. This by all accounts was by the direction of Nvidia/MSI themselves.
Suggested reading is the last few posts on this thread at Guru3D (post #67 onwards):
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=364858
One quote from Unwinder:
it will be standard 1175mV, similar to all other 680 on the market. Advanced core voltage control of Lightning will be totally disabled, so it won't be different comparing to any other 680.
Though there are still two ways round this.
1) Continue to use version 2.2.3
2) Use 2.2.4 (or later when it becomes available) but use the work around that Unwinder gives in a later post.
Looks like Nvidia is continuing to put the pressure on to prevent any sort of meaningful voltage adjustment.Quote from: flobelix on 22-September-12, 02:52:20
Sadly Nvidia really dictated this cut down. MSI had to follow. I keep on using 2.2.3 which keeps everything as it should. Poor 660ti users have no choice as only 2.2.4 supports this model. Right now there is no workaround for that gpu.
It's a shame really, I already have a GTX 670 that does 1340/7406, but on Thursday I decided to buy the MSI GTX 670 OC PE, having read this:
Quote from: HardwareCanucks - MSI GTX 670 Power Edition OC Review
MSI’s cards have continually impressed us with their willingness to overclock to impressive levels. With a bit of coaxing via MSI’s AfterBurner software to maximize the Power Limit and add 100mV to the core and memory voltage (PLL was also increased by 50mV) the GPU hit an impressive 1388MHz while the memory petered out at 6524MHz. Both of those clock speeds are personal bests but we have a feeling like there’s more in the tank should MSI decide to release a GTX 670 Lightning.
For those of you wondering, at these speeds, the actual Boost clock we typically observed in games was between 1450MHz and 1465MHz.
Source
I got my MSI GTX 670 OC PE on Friday, will see what it can do tomorrow, even at factory clocks it should be on par with a reference GTX 680, I only game at 1920x1200 anyway, so it will be great. -
Crash after going idle - MSI Afterburner / GTX 970 SLI
Greetings,
I love my new MSI GTX 970 Gaming Cards -- they work awesomely
However, I have a problem where if I'm running MSI Afterburner at all (i.e. load it, but don't do any overclocking), I receive a black screen and reboot 5-45 seconds after exiting any 3D application. The applications all run fine, the crash does not occur if Afterburner is not open. I've received the crash after Furmark, Elite Dangerous, Heaven Benchmark, Star Citizen, etc.. The idle crash NEVER happens so long as Afterburner isn't running..
I've used drivercleaner to clean out all old drivers, I've uninstalled MSI afterburner and reinstalled (and cleaned directories/registry inbetween).
Any suggestions/ideas?
Update - the crash does NOT occur if i'm running with SLI disabled.
JohnSorry and thanks for the guide - I wont' be lazy next time
Geforce 344.16 driver
Afterburner 4.0.0 (is there a beta that 'officially' supports GTX 970? - I didn't see it in the changelog)
MSI Gaming app installed or uninstalled (tried both) - latest version from MSI website
Rest of stats -
ASUS P8P67 Pro - 3602 (latest BIOS I could find)
VGA: MSI Gaming GTX 970 in SLI
PSU: Corsair HX 950
Intel Core i7-2600k S/B oc'd to 4.6 Ghz
Mem: 2x8GB DDR3-1600 (stock speed/settings/voltage)
Crucial MX100 512GB
Cooler: Original Koolance EXOS for the CPU
Windows 7 64-bit
Quote from: Nichrome on 04-October-14, 23:10:14
Hello,
We need a bit more info >>Posting Guide<<
Also if you could state versions of Afterburner, MSI Gaming App (if you use it) and of Nvidia driver. -
MSI Afterburner Crossfire Issues
Hi I'm running MSI 5850 Twin Frozr in Crossfire on Windows 7 HP, which has been running fine since Christmas.
I've just done a fresh install of Windows 7 and now I have issues with the fan profiles.
I can make a profile to adjust the fan speed with the synchronise for similar graphics processors option ticked and when applied card 1 changes to the profile setting but card 2 doesn't.
This is what Afterburner reports at the desktop.
GPU 1:
Fan Speed: 34%
Core Clock 157mhz
Memory Clock 300mhz
GPU 2:
Fan Speed: 54%
Core Clock 725mhz
Memory Clock 1000mhz
Now if I open GPUZ 0.5.1 GPU2 adjusts to the same settings as GPU1 and stays there. As soon as I close GPUZ it goes back to it's original settings.
I've looked in the registry for ULPS and it says:
EnableUlps REG_DWORD 0x00000001 (1)
EnableUlps_NA REG_SZ 1
Am I correct in thinking these settings enable Ultra Low Power State to reduce the cards settings when not needed?
I'm not bothered about overclocking the cards as they are fast enough.
I've tried ATI 11.2 & 10.2 drivers which have the same effect. Running 10.2 at the moment.
Any suggestions?
Forgot to add I've ran Drivercleaner to remove all ATI drivers in between changing versions.Quote from: Svet on 24-February-11, 02:58:39
Use latest AB version 2.1.0:[compiled on 15-02-2011]
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/downloads/MSIAfterburnerSetup210.zip
Thanks for the reply, I've been playing around all day trying to sort out this problem. I've come to the conclusion that something in Windows got corrupted. I restored yesterdays Acronis True Image system backup and the system is running as normal for a few hours now. -
GS70 2PE Stealth Pro constant GPU switching with MSI Afterburner
So I searched Google like crazy but couldnt find any other threads with this issue reported.
If I have afterburner running while not playing games(general desktop usage), the power light constantly changes orange to white every second. It seems the GPU keeps switching on and off.
Now this wouldn't be a huge issue however due to this, both fans kick in every 2-3 seconds for a duration of about 2-3 seconds then off again. Its pretty annoying since they go full blast for that bit. Just in general this isn't normal behavior. If I close afterburner down, its fine again and stays white(Intel hd4000).
I read users had issues with MSI nvidia overclock tool on older notebooks but that tool is no longer present.
Any ideas?
Thanks for you help.Quote from: DJINFERNO806 on 21-April-14, 05:57:14
So I searched Google like crazy but couldnt find any other threads with this issue reported.
If I have afterburner running while not playing games(general desktop usage), the power light constantly changes orange to white every second. It seems the GPU keeps switching on and off.
Now this wouldn't be a huge issue however due to this, both fans kick in every 2-3 seconds for a duration of about 2-3 seconds then off again. Its pretty annoying since they go full blast for that bit. Just in general this isn't normal behavior. If I close afterburner down, its fine again and stays white(Intel hd4000).
I read users had issues with MSI nvidia overclock tool on older notebooks but that tool is no longer present.
Any ideas?
Thanks for you help.
MSI Afterburner causes the card to get enabled every time it 'checks' the card to update stats like the temperature, core clock, etc....Of course it's going to work like that.
If you don't want it to do it while you're not playing games, close Afterburner. -
hi guys,
So, as the title says, is there any equivalent as K Boost that comes with EVGA Precision with MSI After Burner??
Well to explain i always used MSI Afterburner with all of my VGA but when i bought a EVGA VGA i tried EVGA precision and i don't like it very much and switched again to MSI Afterburner and the i realize that it has not the K-Boost option to keep my VGA always Overclocked and that pissed me off because crysis 2 don't get up to the boost speed so i switched again to EVGA precision but i don't really like it, so now i read on a forum that MSI Afterburner now will come with RivaTuner RTSS 6.0 and i watn that, so anyone could help me with this to move again to MSI Afterburner
Thanks!The lower advertised boost clock is just the minimal boost gpu will achieve under load. As the gpu can boost more if possible it will clock the highest stable possible in current power and thermal situation. 1228Mhz seems to be the (very cool) boost clock it can run in your system so be happy with it.
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User guide: MSI HQ USB BIOS Flash Tool
Guide based on USB tool v1.17c
HOW TO properly use the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool to update your BIOS
This user guide provides a step-by-step explanation for properly using the >>MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool<< to prepare a USB Flash Drive for a safe BIOS-Flash in a pure DOS Environment. The tool itself will not perform the actual flashing operation. It will "only" help you to get your USB Stick set up for an automated DOS flashing procedure which requires final confirmation. (If you should run into any problems before you are prompted for final confirmation in DOS, no attempt to flash has been made yet and there is no danger of a bad flash.)
NOTE: If you are having problems getting your USB device to boot correctly, you may need to format it correctly as the geometry data may be incorrect. You can do that by pickup option "Fix My USB key" from the Tool or by using >>> THIS <<< tool here! For future usage you can skip this step, it need to be done only once if your stick need adjustment.
Symptoms that your USB key need a fix after booting from the USB key:
* Error: "No bootable partition in table"
* Blinking cursor in a top left corner and nothing happens
* "RIVER2 MSI"
* "Error loading operating system"
* "Missing operating system"
* "Disk in drive is not a bootable"
* Booting from selected USB key is IGNORED, the other/typical OS continue to load as usual
If still no change after using "Fix My USB key" Tool's option or HP Formatter Tool as alternative.
Then try with different USB key, the issue is there.
Note: Those USB keys who support "U3 Smart", this "feature" must be removed before proceed.
Refer to followed link: http://u3.sandisk.com/launchpadremoval.htm
Read the three notes that follow first before you move on:
1. Note: Before you even think about flashing a different BIOS, be sure that your system is stable. If it is not stable, make it stable first. (Read >>here<<.)
2. Note: Make sure your system meets the preconditions and system requirements mentioned below before you attempt to use the tool.
3. Note: Do know that flashing your BIOS, be it with the help of the tool or otherwise, is done at your own risk.
Contents of the Guide:
0. Preconditions & System Requirements
1. Basic Description of Functionality
2. Installing/Starting the tool.
3. Choosing a Preparation Method
3.1. Method 1: Processing a BIOS Archive Directly (ZIP/RAR)
3.2. Method 2: Processing a BIOS File Directly
3.3. Method 3: SureHands Live Update
3.4. Method 4: Geometry Change
4. Selecting the USB Flash Drive for preparation
5. BIOS Settings, Booting & Flashing
5.1. BIOS Settings to Check
5.2. Booting from USB Flash Drive
5.3. Flashing Procedure/Running MemTest86+ & CMOS-Clear
6. FAQ: Common Problems & Solutions
7. Version History
0. Preconditions & System Requirements
The main precondition for using the tool is a working & healthy Windows installation on the system that needs the BIOS flash. The Tool is designed to work with MSI Retail Boards & Laptops only.
Please note mainboards of other brands and OEM boards that are manufactured by MSI but sold by Medion, HP, NEC and others are not supported. If you have an OEM board that needs a BIOS update read this topic: >>OEM boards manufactured by MSI<<
Supported Operating Systems: All current Windows Versions (32bit & 64bit, any service pack (SP)): Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows 2003, Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7.
The second requirement is that you have a fully functional USB Flash Drive that uses the FAT file system (FAT/FAT32). NTFS is not supported. If your USB Flash Drive is using the NTFS File System, reformat it to FAT or FAT32.
As the tool also provides a Live Update Option ("SureHands"), you'll need a working internet connection if you want to choose this method. Not all boards are supported at this point.*
* Check section 3.3 of this guide to see if your board is currently supported by the SureHands feature.
1. Basic Description of Functionality
The MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool will help you to easily prepare an USB flash drive for an automated BIOS flash in a pure DOS environment, which is the safest way to perform such a procedure. The tool will also allow you to run MemTest86+ in a pure DOS environment. However, the preparation of your USB Stick is done in Windows and basically includes two steps:
(1) The device will be made bootable.
(2) All necessary files (incl. BIOS file, actual flasher and MemTest86+ executable) and all DOS commands that are needed to flash/test memory will automatically be implemented.
Because the tool does not reformat your USB Flash Drive*, no files that may currently be on the stick will be lost during the procedure. Just make sure that there is still some free drive space, otherwise there will not be enough room for the files that are needed for BIOS Flashing.
* Excluding the Geometry Change method which will destroy all data on the USB storage device.
2. Installing/Starting the tool
Treat the forum's USB Flashing Tool like a regular application. Download it to and run it from your hard drive, there is no need to copy & start it from the USB Flash Drive that you want to use for flashing. Both, the installer version and the stand-alone version, do precisely the same job. Which of the two versions you use, is solely up to you and your preferences. The stand-alone version can be started directly by clicking on the executable file. The installer version will perform an installation and provide you with an entry in your start menu and a desktop shortcut to start the tool.
When you start the tool a DOS box should open up to provide you with status messages and prompts. Do not close that box unless you want to abort the preparation procedure!
Please ensure that you connect the USB flash drive you wish to use before starting the Tool!
NOTE: If you do not connect your USB storage device before starting the tool, or the tool doesn't detect it. You can still insert the drive letter, as the tool will continue as normal.
The tool will first check, if an MSI mainboard is installed in your system and show you its model name and PCB Version in a message box. Click >OK< to continue to choose the tool's preparation method that you want to use to prepare your USB Flash Drive.
3. Choosing a Preparation Method
If your MSI Retail Board is properly detected and you have pressed the >OK< button in the message box, an option box will pop up that allows you to choose between three different operating modes. The options you can choose from are more or less self-explanatory, however, read the detailed description if you are unsure how to proceed at this point:
3.1. Method 1: Processing a BIOS Archive Directly (ZIP/RAR)
Official MSI BIOS-Updates that can be downloaded from the product site of your board model do usually come as .ZIP or .RAR archives that contain the actual BIOS File and the corresponding AWARD or AMI flashing utility (depending on the BIOS Type of your board). If you have downloaded such an archive, you should choose the first method from the option box.
You do not need to extract the files from the BIOS archive. The tool will ask you to point it to the archive you downloaded and automatically extract the BIOS File and the AMI or AWARD flashing utility and put it them on your USB Flash Drive. You don't have to worry about anything else. All you have to do is to remember where you saved the ZIP or RAR file you downloaded:
3.2. Method 2: Processing a BIOS File Directly
If you do not have a ZIP or RAR archive that already contains a BIOS File and the proper flashing utitility, but only the plain unpacked BIOS File, choose the second Method from the option box. In most cases BETA BIOS Files supplied by MSI Support or shared here in the Forum do not come with the proper flashing utility. If the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool is told to process a plain BIOS File, it will automatically check the type of BIOS File (AMI or AWARD) and then select the proper flashing utility that needs to be used. All you need to do is point the tool to the BIOS-File that is supposed to be flashed:
3.3. Method 3: SureHands Live Update
"SureHands Live Update" is the third operation method you can choose from the option box. It provides a much safer and more reliable alternative to MSI Live Update as the actual BIOS Flash is performed in a pure DOS environment as well. If you decide to use this option, you do not to supply the tool with a BIOS-Archive or a BIOS-File.
Not all MSI Retail Boards are currently supported. With every update of the USB Flashing Tool more boards will be added. At present, you can use the "SureHands" Live Update method with the following boards only (the list will be updated regularly):
AMD based boards:
K8N Neo4-F (MS-7125, PCB 3.0)
K8NGM2-FID (MS-7207, PCB 2.0)
K8N Diamond Plus (MS-7220, PCB 1.0)
K8N Neo3 (MS-7135, PCB 1.0 & 2.0)
K9A Platinum (MS-7280, PCB 1.0)
K9A2 Platinum (MS-7376, PCB 1.0)
K9A2 CF-F (MS-7388, PCB 1.0)
K9N Neo-F (MS-7260, PCB 1.0 & 2.0)
K9VGM-V (MS-7253, PCB1.0)
K9N2GM-F V2 (MS-7509, PCB 1.0)
K9N Neo V2 / V3 (MS-7369, PCB 1.1)
K9N Platinum & K9N SLI Platinum (MS-7250, PCB1.0)
K9N2 Diamond (MS-7375, PCB 1.1)
K9N2 SLI Platinum (MS-7374, PCB 1.1)
K9N2 Zilent (MS-7374, PCB 1.1)
K9N2 Neo-F (MS-7511, PCB 1.1)
DKA790GX Platinum (MS-7550, PCB 1.1)
790FX-GD70 (MS-7577, PCB 1.0)
790GX-G65 (MS-7576, PCB 1.0)
Intel based boards
HydroGenX48C & X48C Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 3.0)
X48 Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
X38 Diamond Plus
X38 Diamond (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
X38 Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
EFINITY-FP (MS-7395(E), PCB 1.0)
P35 Neo Combo-F (MS-7365, PCB 1.0)
P35 Neo2 Series (MS-7345, PCB 1.1)
P35 Platinum (MS-7345, PCB 1.1)
P35 Neo-F (MS-7360, PCB 1.0)
G33 Platinum (MS-7345, PCB 1.1 & PCB 1.2)
P965 Platinum (MS-7238, PCB 1.1)
975X Platinum PowerUp Edition (MS-7246, PCB 2.1)
865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition (MS-6728, PCB 2.0C)
P7N SLI Platinum (MS-7380, PCB 1.0)
P7N2 Diamond (MS-7523 PCB 1.0)
P7N Diamond (MS-7510, PCB 1.0)
P7N SLI Platinum (MS-7380, PCB 1.0)
P6N Diamond (MS-7320, PCB 1.0)
P6N SLI Platinum (MS-7350, PCB 1.0)
P6N SLI-FI (MS-7350 PCB 2.0)
P6N SLI V2 (MS-7346 PCB 1.0)
ECLIPSE SLI (MS-7520, PCB 1.0)
ECLIPSE Plus (MS-7566, PCB 1.0)
P35 Neo3-F (MS-7395, PCB 1.0)
After selecting "SureHands" from the option box, the tool will automatically check for all available official BIOS-Versions for your mainboard. It will also look for the latest available BETA BIOS Version for you board and save that information in a TXT-File on your Desktop:
Note: The SureHands option will not provide you with the latest BETA BIOS, it will only provide the information.
When the tool is done scanning for official BIOS releases for your board, it will give you the possibility to manually choose the BIOS Version you want to flash. SureHands Live Update will not automatically select the latest version and use it for flashing, it will give you the chance of choosing between all available official BIOS releases that are available:
Note that the "May not exist" comment that appears behind some versions does not mean that the BIOS does not exist. If you know the latest BIOS for your board is e.g. v1.8, SureHands will retrieve it even though there may be such a comment. That message is part of a prediction feature that tries to determine future BIOS Releases. If a BIOS version that was predicted by the SureHands feature is not available yet, the tool will tell you if it cannot retrieve the files and ask you to select an earlier version.
3.4 Geometry Change
If the tool fails to make your USB storage device bootable then you will need to use this mode. It will make your drive bootable, select it:
Select your drive then let the tool do it's business.
Once the process is complete, run the tool again via method 1, 2 or 3, restart your computer and try booting from the USB storage device again.
NOTE: This method will destroy ALL data on the USB storage device!
NOTE: This method is available in v1.17 and beyond.
4. Selecting the USB Flash Drive for preparation
When you have chosen one of the three methods from the option list and pointed the tool at the corresponding archive, BIOS File or selected the desired BIOS Version from the list in case you chose to use SureHands Live Update, the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool will prompt you to enter the drive letter of the USB Flash Drive you want to use for flashing:
Note that certain drive letters are reserved and will therefore not be accepted by the tool (currently A:, B: and C:). If you are sure you have connected an USB Flash Drive to the system that works properly but it does not appear in the table that appears in the DOS box, enter the corresponding drive letter anyway and see if the tool accepts it. This can happen in rare cases, but it is usually no problem.
The tool will check the selected drive and will provide you with status messages. If everything is okay, the message should look like this:
The tool will attempt to make the device bootable and automatically write all files that are needed for flashing to the drive to prepare it for flashing. If the procedure was successful, you will get the following message in the DOS box:
5. BIOS-Settings, Booting & Flashing
If the Tool has prepared your drive for booting & flashing, no BIOS flash attempt has been made yet. Only the preparation process. In order to initiate the flashing procedure, you have to restart your system and make it boot from the USB Flash drive. Before you move on to do that, enter the BIOS Setup and check a few options:
5.1. BIOS Settings to Check
Check USB-related Options in BIOS:
- USB Controller
- USB 2.0 Controller
- USB Legacy Support
- USB Storage Support
- Boot from other devices
- etc.
Not all of these options may be found in BIOS and the precise name may vary as well. Just make sure you checked for such options and that they are enabled (if present).
Another option you should check for is "Boot Sector Protection". If such an option is present in your BIOS, make sure it is disabled because it may make a BIOS Flash impossible.
@all Overclockers: In case your system is currently overclocked, make sure you roll back to default clock and voltage settings before you attempt to start the flashing procedure. Otherwise you increase the risk of an unsuccesful flash, and you most probably don't want something like that to happen.
5.2. Booting from USB Flash Drive
To boot from your USB drive you can either change the boot sequence in BIOS accordingly or just press F11 during POST* to get access to the BIOS Boot Menu. From here, you can select you drive directly without having to adjust the boot sequence in BIOS. Note that your USB Flash Drive may be listed as a hard drive (if you choose that entry you will get another list to choose from).
* Not all mainboards use F11, for the boot menu. If F11 fails for you, please consult your manual for the correct key.
Note: If you have problems booting from your drive, look at the FAQ-Section of this guide and see if any of the tips resolve the issue.
5.3. Flashing Procedure/Running MemTest86+
As soon as the system boots from the drive, DOS will be loaded and you will be displayed with two options. One option will start MemTest86+, the other will begin the flashing procedure. If no choice is made, MemTest86+ will automatically start.
The flashing procedure will automatically be initiated from there. You will see status messages on the screen that will supply you with information and also prompt you for final confirmation for the actual BIOS-Flash. A backup of you current BIOS will automatically be saved to a file on the drive (backup.bin) before the flashing actually starts. You do not need to enter any commands in DOS. All you have to do is acknowledge the information on the screen by pressing a key.
The flash itself will only take a couple of seconds (20-30s at the most). If the flashing is successfully completed, shutdown the system and clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU. Read the >>Clear CMOS Guide<< for further information.
After clearing CMOS you have completed the BIOS-Flash.
Guide created by Jack The Newbie and the forum teamVersion updated to 1.18x:
* Mode 3 Sure Hands, Live Update:
- Removed beta BIOS query check[global]
- Fixed issue K9N2 Diamond unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard is installed BIOS version 2.4,
add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Fixed issue 790FX-GD70 unable to be detected as supported unit and add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Fixed issue 790GX-G65 unable to be detected as supported unit and add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Add support for 785G-E65, add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range 3.1 - 3.A
- Add support for 785G-E53, add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range 3.1 - 3.A
- Add support for 790GX-G65 Winki ED, prediction BIOS range 2.1 - 2.A
- Fixed issue P7N Diamond unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard BIOS installed is 1.3 and above,
add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Add support for K9A2 Neo2, prediction BIOS range 7.4 - 7.D
- Add support for 790XT-G45, prediction BIOS range 2.2 - 2.B
- Add support for 770T-C45, prediction BIOS range 8.4 - 8.D
- Add support for 770T-C35, prediction BIOS range 8.4 - 8.D
- Fixed issue K9A2 Platinum[V1,V2] unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard BIOS installed is 1.9,
add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range extended to 1.F0
- 790GX-G65 board prediction BIOS range extended to ver: 1.D0
- 790GX-G65 board update bios base ver from 1.xx to 4.xx [following new msi rule for this board jumping from 1.xx to 4.xx]
- Add support for 770-C35|C45 boards [p1] BIOS range 1.40 - 1.D0
- Add support for 770-G45 board [p2] BIOS range A10 - AA0
* Add "Exit" option to navigation screen
* Update version info related to boot part
* Update boot part to handle newest features
* Modify Self update sequence of Installer version
* Update internal version check ID
* Mode 4 minor update
* Build and add new Tool's module for newest features
* W32 Tool's exit time part decreased by 10 seconds
* On received OS reboot user request, time delay before execution decreased by 15 seconds
* Update EC decoder
* Update start-up information screen
* Auto store start-up detected information to user's desktop ==> [MSIHQ_INFO.TXT]
Details:
Easy to show machine information on request, instead write down from the screen manually, now just copy/paste can be used from MSIHQ_INFO.TXT
User can check and compare information before and after the BIOS update
Also usefull if didn't remember what was his original BIOS or EC versions before the update, Tool will auto store it there.
And easy can be checked if needs. E.g Tool's log file of each Tool's execution, each report will include date and time as well.
F.A.Q example:
Q: I flashed BIOS on my notebook and now it doesn't work properly.. And i don't remember what was my old BIOS version.. What can i do?
A: Take a look in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at your desktop, there is auto recorded your detailed information about your notebook before the BIOS update.
So you can easy find what was your original BIOS & EC versions.
Is it OEM one or not, and the exact original BIOS & EC versions.
So you can roll back easy or if crossflashing were done to reflash to correct versions.
Example question:[this board now use 4.xx bios, but don't have time to make a new images.]
It's just example, do not mean that this BIOS used in the example is bad. But generally often can need to roll back to older version.
Or to use Sure Hands because[The BIOS is N/A for manual download, By SureHands no need to browse/search/download and point to the BIOS version, also eliminate any chances to pickup the wrong BIOS, and not at last its more quickly[save a time]]
Q: I flashed my BIOS via MSI Live Update, but the new BIOS has an issues.
How i can roll back to my old BIOS version?
The MSI LiveUpdate can only update to the latest BIOS version, which is not good for me.
And i can't download my old BIOS version manually... Because "This BIOS can only update via Live Update function"
http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1739
How i can re-flash to my original BIOS version and from where can i get it?
A: Run >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<,
then choose Mode 3 [Live Update{aka SureHands}]:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 21:09:45,15
Mainboard: 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.3
BIOS Date: 05/08/2009
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 21:22:38,42
Mainboard: 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.6
BIOS Date: 11/30/2009
Then choose your old BIOS version from the list:
The followed image used below is a sample from Eclipse board,[no time to make accurate image] but will look similar for others boards too:
In a list will be noticed that there is a future BIOS versions.
Some of them will be not released yet. If you pick some of those the Tool will note you:
It's a part of Tool's BIOS prediction system called "Crystal Ball", when MSI release a future BIOSes for your board,
Tool can find them immediately. By that way the Tool no need to be updated to be actual in each moment
* Add new feature "True BIOS Version Ready"
- Updated Mode 1
- Updated Mode 2
- Updated Mode 3
Details:
Q: What "True BIOS Version Ready" means? Does the Tool show the wrong BIOS version until now?
A: Of course not, the Tool always show accurate info.
The same as CPU-Z/Everest of whatever other Tool.
However Tool also detect EC-FW versions for notebooks:
The "True BIOS Version Ready" Tool's feature is aimed to eliminate user's mass confusion about MSI BIOS versions.
And not only users are confused, but MSI's Live Update is confused too... which confuse users even more..
Few typical real examples of confusion:
"K9A2 CF wont flash to Bios v. 1.A !!!"
Quote from: Fingon on 25-October-09, 16:53:15
Hi MSI,
I have a problem. I have bought a new processor: AMD Phenom II x545. I looked on the support page of my MB (MSI K9A2 CF) and there the CPU is supported from the bios version 1.A. So I wanted to flash the Bios the the newest version (1.A). I used the MSI live update 4 program to flash it via windows mode. But everytime it boots it writes "CMOS checksum BAD", then I hit F1 to Bios and I see the version of my BIOS fell to the oldest version 1.1. Then I tried to flash it thru Flash disc (with boot files) and dos mod. The result is the same. I can flash my MB to version 1.8 but when I try the 1.A it wont flash it and my Bios fell to the oldest version (1.1). I realised that the exe files in version 1.1-1.8 are the same (afud412.exe) but the exe file in 1.A is different (afud4310.exe).
My questions are:
1) How to flash my MB to the version 1.A ?
2) Is version 1.A really needed for AMD Phenom II x545? I guess yes, because CPU was avaible in July 2009 and the bios 1.A went out in June 2009. I am able to flash it only to version 1.8 (december 2008).
Thank you for any help!!
EDIT: After reading this topic: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=129204.0 I realised I have the VERSION 1 of this board (I purchased it right after the launch of the MB (November 2007). It means it doesnt support CPU over 95W, but my Phenpom II x545 has only 80W. I still cant update Bios to the 1.A version.
So my third question is:
3) Is the Bios update 1.A only for version 2 of this MB?
Thx for replies!
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 25-October-09, 17:16:16
A CMOS Checksum error is normal and expected after a BIOS Flash and/or a CMOS Clear. The fact that this message appears, shows, that there was actually something programmed to the chip.
If you haven't done that yet, please clear CMOS with the main A/C power cable removed from your PSU and load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS Setup.
The BIOS Version should be shown on the POST Status Screen and there should be a date behind it. Please check the BIOS Date and write it down:
Are you absolutely and entirely sure that what you see is "1.1" and not "1.10"? Because v1.A0 is actually just the hexadecimal notation for v1."10" (one dot ten). The hexadecimal notation is only used in the BIOS File Ending. Once flashed, the BIOS will not identify itself in hexadecimal notation but in decimal code (which means you will never see "v1.A0" after the flash but "v1.10" instead.
Here is a piece of well-meant advice for now and the future: MSI Live Update should be avoided under all circumstances when it comes to BIOS Updates and/or information retrieval regarding your current BIOS Version. Why? Because this tool is stupid and one of there most risky applications for performing a BIOS Flash. Please uninstall it completely.
Why do I call it stupid? I call it stupid because it does not differentiate between hexadecimal notation and decimal notation. It will show you that "v1.A0" is available. The it will flash it, if you allow it to do so. Of course, a v1.A0 Version will always come out as "v1.10" (one dot ten). When you re-run MSI Live Update it will not recognize that v1.A0=v1.10 and tell you again that there is a newer version available (1.A0, which, again, is the same as v1.10, which was just properly flashed).
I believe that the update went just fine, that you are currently using v1.A0=v1.10 and that MSI Live Update is actually just creating a pseudo-problem which is currently confusing you. The pseudo-problem will immediately be out of the world, if you uninstall MSI Live Update and rely on the BIOS ID String as it appears on the POST Status Screen (this includes the date shown there).
If a BIOS Update should ever be necessary again, please make sure that you won't use MSI Live Update but >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<< instead.
Quote from: Fingon on 25-October-09, 18:03:44
Thank you for the quick reply!!
Thats exactly what I have JUST found in this post by Svet: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=127672.msg974800#msg974800
Yes it is 1.10 of course!! I didnt know that 1.10 = 1.A0 ! Thank you for the reply. Then the MSI live update 4 program is dump that he wanted from me another update of Bios.
So thank you! Problem is solved.
Edit: Yes, because of MSI live update I learned how to flash bios via flash disc. :-) But I was still confused by that 1.10 and of course by program saying me I should update again.. :-P
Quote from: Lostsoul777 on 14-August-09, 05:46:25
I had the same problem with 1.90 bios, so i updated to 1A, i just want to know why Bios Version says: v.1.10 instead v.1A?
Quote from: LinuxGuy on 29-December-09, 01:17:45
My computer does not have a floppy drive. How do I update the BIOS? (I tried the online utility 3 times. It always updates the BIOS "successfully" and when I restart my PC, I have to do either F1 to config or F2 to load setup defaults. So it looks like it's working, but the online update says that I have versions H.10 and version H.A0 is available (or maybe the other way around). So either the BIOS is getting updated, but the online tool is not recognizing this or it's not getting updated. Either way, I would like to manually flash it in DOS. Is it safe to burn the setup files to CD and boot from CD into DOS?
That's the same BIOS version... Just the "MSI Live Updater" is not very smart...
H.A=H.10=17.A=17.10 [A=10, H=17], the last "0" suffix in H.A0 means its official version.
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I tried the online utility 3 times. It always updates the BIOS "successfully" and when I restart my PC, I have to do either F1 to config or F2 to load setup defaults.
So it looks like it's working, but the online update says that I have versions H.10 and version H.A0 is available (or maybe the other way around).
So ignore this MSI Live Updater's no sense, and stop flashing your BIOS. You already have the latest version installed.
The Tool now will detect and shows BIOS versions alias when the MSI BIOS version is known with more than one name.
So no more flashing and flashing and flashing to the same version because of MSI LiveUpdate suggest again BIOS update...
Also no more confusion:
"What's my BIOS version?" -> I flashed my BIOS to 1.A0 [A7520IMS.1A0], but BIOS says its 1.10
And MSI Live Update also says that i have 1.10 and 1.A0 is available and i should update it. I flashed it again, but its still 1.10?
What's going on?
Just run the MSIHQ USB Flash Tool and will show you all that you need to know
Examples[with real/accurate info]:
MSI Eclipse:
BIOS version 1.9:
BIOS version 1.10:[Tool now shows both BIOS versions alias]
Report stored respective in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at user's desktop:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:30:55,34
Mainboard: Eclipse SLI (MS-7520)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.9
BIOS Date: 09/22/2009
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:37:25,66
Mainboard: Eclipse SLI (MS-7520)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.A (aka Version: V1.10)
BIOS Date: 10/27/2009
More examples =>K9N6SGM-V / K9N6PGM-FI / K9N6PGM-F :
More examples =>945GCM5-F V2 (FSB 1333) :
Report stored respective in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at user's desktop:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:47:34,35
Mainboard: MS-7267
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VH.9 (aka Version: V17.9)
BIOS Date: 11/20/2008
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:52:46,26
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VH.A (aka Version: V17.10)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
More examples =>780GT-E63 [N/A at MSI web yet] :
For MSI Notebooks such decoding isn't need, examples:
* Add new feature "Triple BIOS flash Recovery Ready"
- Updated Mode 1
- Updated Mode 2
- Updated Mode 3
Details:
The feature include 3 auto prepared BIOS backups for followed purpose:
* Internal BIOS recovery:
- In a failure case Tool perform auto flash recovery [3 attempts, check for success after each and stop flashing if successful] before give control to BK_IO2, notice users about results and give control for manual attempts[if need]. [This a case if system isn't lockup/reboot, if bad flash occur]
- This mode also have own store up to 5 backups[+1, the last saved copy is always backup.bin, if there was older one they become backup1.bin .. till 5]
* BIOS backup stored as AMIBOOT.ROM [AMI BIOS only] [Auto clean up older if there is any, before take a new backup to avoid recovery confusion]
* BIOS backup detected and stored for M-Flash style boot/recovery [AMI BIOS only] [Auto clean up older if there is any, before take a new backup to avoid recovery confusion]
Performing test simulations with random generated BIOS versions[including betas] for M-Flash boot/recovery style, some examples:
Copy/paste Tool log file:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:00:53,46
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VD.XB2 (aka Version: V13.33B2)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.DX2
Where:
* V13.33B2 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VD.XB2 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.DX2 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:12:23,95
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VK.VB7 (aka Version: V20.31B7)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.KV7
Where:
* V20.31B7 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VK.VB7 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.KV7 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:18:34,46
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V3.9
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.390
Where:
* V3.9 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature isn't need here, since this BIOS version can be known only with one name.
* A7267IMS.390 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:22:24,04
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V8.1B9
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.819
Where:
* V8.1B9==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature isn't need here, since this BIOS version can be known only with one name.
* A7267IMS.819 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:25:38,51
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V4.E (aka Version: V4.14)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.4E0
Where:
* V4.14 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* V4.E ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.4E0 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:28:16,62
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V1.BB1 (aka Version: V1.11B1)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.1B1
Where:
* V1.11B1 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* V1.BB1 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.1B1 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:31:57,78
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VI.FB5 (aka Version: V18.15B5)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.IF5
Where:
* V18.15B5 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VI.FB5 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.IF5 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:36:02,40
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V7.O (aka Version: V7.24)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.7O0
Where:
* V7.24 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* V7.O ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.7O0 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:39:11,84
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VC.8B6 (aka Version: V12.8B6)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.C86
Where:
* V12.8B6 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VC.8B6 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.C86 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:49:38,46
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VG.PB6 (aka Version: V16.25B6)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.GP6
Where:
* V16.25B6 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VG.PB6 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.GP6 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:53:17,26
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VU.H (aka Version: V30.17)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.UH0
Where:
* V30.17 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VU.H ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.UH0 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3] -
Alternative to MSI drivers with overclock settings too! (UPDATED)
Hello all,
Well, this has been posted a lot and I just wanted it here plain as day so we don't have to keep posting with this same answer.
Many times, due to poor configuration. or any number of reasons the MSI drivers overclocking can be a bit on the buggy side, Coolbits is one of the best basic alternatives, and what you should be using anyway for overclocking and setting your card's options, however, in some cases the MSI drivers may be the only thing that works for your sytem, so this may not be for you, the only way to tell is to try it and see.
Of course there are other utilities like Riva Tuner and nVtweak, that can take settings to another level of tweakdom, but for simplicity purposes Coolbits is the basics.
Driver Information
Download the latest Drivers from the nVidia Website. Again, you may have to search the internet for a previous version that works better for your configuration. you can go to http://driverheaven.net where they have a whole archive full of previous versions.
Also, you can go directly to nVidia's FTP site and get all the past versions here ftp://download1.nvidia.com/windows
While you are at Driverheaven, download and install the utility called Driver Cleaner, or go directly to the site dedicated to the utility http://www.drivercleaner.net
Read and follow the instructions that come with this utility PLEASE.
QI have MSI drivers installed but the Tabs are still present in Display Properties, how do I remove them?
A MSI's clock tabs are controlled by msicpl.dll and will not removed, you will manually have to eradicate the file yourself. It should be in the windows directory but if you cannot find it just do a search.
Keep in mind that XP's System Restore can also complicate things, while I won't recommend disabling it, it's something to think about.
*Supplimental Information*
With the intoduction of MSI's DOT Overclocking DOT Explained utility, some of the guesswork is taken out of the art of overclocking your card, however, don't assume that it is safe. Overclocking in ANY case can damage hardware if not done properly. One must take proper measures in cooling, and become educated in the dynamics of overclocking in order to get the best results. Just remember that heat shortens the life of any component, overclocking simply accelerates it. Liken it to smoking, one will most likely have a shorter lifespan, or have health problems. Some may live a normal lifespan, but the former is usually the case.
Quote
Caution:
Although D.O.T. is more safe and stable than manually overclocking, risks are still involved. We suggest you that you first make sure your graphics card can handle overclocking. If you find some abnormal phenomenons while playing 3D games after enabling D.O.T., such as broken images, we recommend you to either stop D.O.T or to lower the level of D.O.T.
If you prefer to overclock manually, you must disable D.O.T. first. We cannot gurantee that every graphics card can be overclocked to the Commander level.
*End Supplimental Information*
Additionally, there is a tool available called, nVTweak that can unlock many features, including clock settings. Please read all documentation related to this product before using. http://nvtweak.laptopvideo2go.com/ Donations are accepted by the author.
Now finally to enable the simple bare bones overclocking abilities of the drivers using Coolbits...
Download the attached file and extract the .reg file to your desired location. Then, just doubleclick on the .reg file, this will enable the extra options including the Core and RAM settings for your card.
PM me if you think there are any changes that might need to be made, I will consider it.
And here is coolbits in a zip (Updated to coolbits2)
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]Hello all,
Well, this has been posted a lot and I just wanted it here plain as day so we don't have to keep posting with this same answer.
Many times, due to poor configuration. or any number of reasons the MSI drivers overclocking can be a bit on the buggy side, Coolbits is one of the best basic alternatives, and what you should be using anyway for overclocking and setting your card's options, however, in some cases the MSI drivers may be the only thing that works for your sytem, so this may not be for you, the only way to tell is to try it and see.
Of course there are other utilities like Riva Tuner and nVtweak, that can take settings to another level of tweakdom, but for simplicity purposes Coolbits is the basics.
Driver Information
Download the latest Drivers from the nVidia Website. Again, you may have to search the internet for a previous version that works better for your configuration. you can go to http://driverheaven.net where they have a whole archive full of previous versions.
Also, you can go directly to nVidia's FTP site and get all the past versions here ftp://download1.nvidia.com/windows
While you are at Driverheaven, download and install the utility called Driver Cleaner, or go directly to the site dedicated to the utility http://www.drivercleaner.net
Read and follow the instructions that come with this utility PLEASE.
QI have MSI drivers installed but the Tabs are still present in Display Properties, how do I remove them?
A MSI's clock tabs are controlled by msicpl.dll and will not removed, you will manually have to eradicate the file yourself. It should be in the windows directory but if you cannot find it just do a search.
Keep in mind that XP's System Restore can also complicate things, while I won't recommend disabling it, it's something to think about.
*Supplimental Information*
With the intoduction of MSI's DOT Overclocking DOT Explained utility, some of the guesswork is taken out of the art of overclocking your card, however, don't assume that it is safe. Overclocking in ANY case can damage hardware if not done properly. One must take proper measures in cooling, and become educated in the dynamics of overclocking in order to get the best results. Just remember that heat shortens the life of any component, overclocking simply accelerates it. Liken it to smoking, one will most likely have a shorter lifespan, or have health problems. Some may live a normal lifespan, but the former is usually the case.
Quote
Caution:
Although D.O.T. is more safe and stable than manually overclocking, risks are still involved. We suggest you that you first make sure your graphics card can handle overclocking. If you find some abnormal phenomenons while playing 3D games after enabling D.O.T., such as broken images, we recommend you to either stop D.O.T or to lower the level of D.O.T.
If you prefer to overclock manually, you must disable D.O.T. first. We cannot gurantee that every graphics card can be overclocked to the Commander level.
*End Supplimental Information*
Additionally, there is a tool available called, nVTweak that can unlock many features, including clock settings. Please read all documentation related to this product before using. http://nvtweak.laptopvideo2go.com/ Donations are accepted by the author.
Now finally to enable the simple bare bones overclocking abilities of the drivers using Coolbits...
Download the attached file and extract the .reg file to your desired location. Then, just doubleclick on the .reg file, this will enable the extra options including the Core and RAM settings for your card.
PM me if you think there are any changes that might need to be made, I will consider it.
And here is coolbits in a zip (Updated to coolbits2)
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ] -
Can't touch second card in MSI afterburner.
Hi, I recently crossfired an MSI 5830 with an MSI 5850 on my Asus M4A89gtd pro/USB3 motherboard. Both of the cards are twin frozr II.
Before the crossfire I had the 5830 single.
The motherboard has 2 pci-e slots, and the bottom one is the master card slot.
So, at first, I put the 5850 in the master card slot because it was the more powerful card.
I booted the computer up and everything worked fine, crossfire elabled and it was stable. So I went to MSI afterburner to start overclocking.
I can do whatever I want to the 5850, change volts, core clock, memory clock, fan.
But when I go to the settings and switch to the 5830 to overclock it, I can't do a single thing to it without the computer freezing.
I've tried many different drivers and none of them made a difference.
I've discovered though that if I disable the "Sync settings for similar graphics processors" option, I can change the voltage and fan options, but they don't do anything.
If I adjust the core clock or the memory clock though, it freezes.
So, I switched the cards around, and put the 5830 in the master card slot, and the 5850 in the other slot.
The results are that I can overclock both cards with no freezing.
Now, I don't know if this is how I HAVE to do it, but I would prefer the 5850 to be the master card so it does most of the work. Maybe that won't work though because the 5850 is faster than the 5830 and thus it has to be the 2nd card.
*Note* Even though the 5830 is in the master card slot, MSI afterburner still recognises it as the master card or "GPU-1".
I've also stopped CCC from starting when windows boots up, and I've also disabled ULPS.
So, can anybody please tell me if there is a way to have the 5850 be in the master card slot?
Or, do I have to use the 5830 for that?
This could also be a hardware/motherboard thing and not MSI afterburner.
One more thing, after a computer reboot, the first time you open the settings in afterburner, it crashes and said it stopped working.
So I have to click on the desktop icon to open it again, but after that I can open the setting however much I want without a problem, it's just after you reboot it does that once.
I don't know if this helps or not but I think it's worth mentioning.
I'm using afterburner v2.1.0 beta 5 and the newest, 10.12 drivers.
Can anybody please help me?
Thanks,
Randyyou can ask here: http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55
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Msi Afterburner Keeps putting voltage back to 1.164
Hi, this is my first post so please tell me if I am doing anything wrong.
I am using MSI afterburner 1.6.1 to overclock my MSI R5830.
I have managed to get the card stable using these settings: Voltage@ 1.220v, Clock
at 950mhz, memory at 1205.
When I am using any 3d application, like a game, the voltage will randomly go back down to 1.164v causing the computer to crash.
I cannot figure out why this is happening, please help me out on this cuz I'm a noob =(
Thanks,
~Randy
P.S. I've Already searched Google for this, I could not find anybody who is having the same problem.You may want to post your question here as well: http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55 Unwinder is the developer for MSI's Afterburner.
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