MSI beta bios cool 'n quiet available

Saw it on the AMD board.
http://www.msi-computer.de/produkte/produkt.php?Seite=BIOS&Prod_id=317
Cool 'n quiet is now working!!!!
Mark

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Originally posted by 3degs
Note after you have installed the BETA bios you cant run your windows XP without the cool and quiet enabled in bios. If you try to run winxp with the option to OFF you will notice SLOW perfomance and maybe loockups.
To solve this, ENABLE cool and QUIET in bios and set you settings in windows to ALWAYS ON or a DESKTOP machine. If so it will automaticaly make cool and quiet go off and when you want it again just enable portable in the settings in windows XP.
Yes, I noticed this behaviour also. Moreover I would like to see a feature that enables you to create some kind of power profile. A profile that says e.g: "don't minimize power until load 5 minutes less than 10". It's now all or nothing.....
Mark

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Msi k8n neo3 cool 'n' quiet & amd a64 sempron 2800+

nice forum! I hope you guys can help me out.
here's the deal.
I am what one would call a computer expert, but unfortunately I seem to miss something in this particular matter, unlike in other cases, which is very frustrating.
I personally own loads of MSI boards, most of which for amd64 systems, so I have experience with the drivers and utilities and I know how to get these systems up and running with cool 'n' quiet, except for this particular system. I know the cpu can't be to blame for this, since it supports cool 'n' quiet. I also have owned some other boards from other manufacturers (also amd64), so I'd like to think that I am aquainted with the technology.
msi k8n neo3 motherboard:
- bought this one three days ago
- came with bios version 1.05x (!!!)
- updated the bios to 1.5x (amongst others because of the sempron support)
- enabled the coolnquiet feature (OC options were enabled, settings to optimized, captain etc. etc. (what I usually do)).
- installed the drivers from the cd; the .inf driver was also installed (I saw a screen confirming that).
- put energy management to minimalized setting
- rebooted
and... nothing! well, except for the normal speed it should not be running on at 0% cpu load (1607 MHz).
tried installing the standard amd driver from the amd website; also nothing... I did come across this problem once before and then I had to conclude that the problem could be resolved by installing another amd a64 driver package that came from another manufacturer's motherboard cd (which should not be the problem of course, because this driver (just as the cpu) should be generic).
configuration:
- this board @ bios 1.5x
- amd 2800+ sempron (latest model) + boxed cooler
- 2x samsung ddr400 512mb (also tested it with corsair modules)
- dvd-drive
- couple of hard drives connected to pata/sata, no raid enabled.
- winxp-32 us. SP2
apart from this particular problem, the system works just fine.
who can help me out?

Thanks for your replies guys.
Quote from: syar2003 on 09-January-06, 23:22:40
Appearently only Sempron 3000+ and higher support CnQ .
Some lower models ildes down to as litte as 14W so CnQ don't make much sense in those low power models.
Also if the multiplier is locked downwards CnQ can't work (E.g can you run 7*200 , and make it stick).
Well, appearently this specific model does support it, I know this because it says so on the box... so why isn't it working then?
For the sake of the argument, what if this CPU did support CnQ, what am I doing wrong then?
What I also can't figure out is why these CPU's, according to your statement, should be doing something like 14W in idle mode, whereas these cpu's basically aren't that different from normal amd64 cpu's, except for the support of x86-AMD64 and having a larger cache ; these fully featured amd64 cpu's need something like 80-90W in stressed mode, running on their normal clock speeds and do something like 32W when in CnQ-mode. How is that possible? Because of newer generation production processes with less nm-technology or something like that?

Which is better : Enabling Cool'N Quiet or disabling it ?

Hi !
I enabled the Cool'N Quiet , but the CPU-Z shows the CoreSpeed 1004.9 MHz , is that because enabling the Cool'N Quiet ? If yes , isn't it better that the CoreSpeed has high MHz ?
Any explanation plz ? because I am confused and newbie with all this thing beside I don't overclock anything .
Thanks in Advance !

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Originally posted by Ludic
Well, I don't share the opinion of most here. I leave Cool N Quiet off. Mostly because there are instances where my CPU will just STOP and not turn. And I don't like that at all. With Cool N Quiet off, it doesn't do it.
Then I'll turn it off , cuz anyhow I feel my PC went bad after enabled that , but I asked here to be sure if it is usefull anyway , then your reply changed my mind

Cool N Quiet !!!!

Just got a deal on a K8n Neo4 Platinum SLI.
But I did not get the drivers disk.
I was able to D/L all appropriate drivers from MSI excluding the Cool'n'quiet driver.
Checked also the AMD website but all versions stipulate "Mobile Processors Only!"
Does anyone know where I can get a copy or are they willing to Email me a copy?
Thx
Ed

They are all there on AMD's site.
Start here.
Choose the correct link on the right - depends if you have X2 or not.
The choose the correct processor driver. Maybe you're confused because the one you want is called "processor driver" instead of CnQ driver unless you want the Linux version.

Basic stuff -- BIOS version, Cool 'n' Quiet working?

Hi,
Okay, my new PC is up and running stable in WinXP Pro. Here are some very basic noob questions:
-How exactly do I determine my BIOS version? I thought I had v. 1.0 based on the loading screen during boot up, and SoftSandra, but MSI's Live Update says I have an equal or newer version than 1.2.
-How can I tell that Cool 'n Quiet is functioning properly? In Core Center, it appears that the CPU fan speed increases under load, but it doesn't happen right away so I'm not sure. Also, the CPU fan speed slider stays in the position I put it in manually, even after I switch back to Cool 'n Quiet (maybe this is just a GUI thing).
BTW -- I installed the Hyperion 4-in-1 drivers, enabled Cool 'n Quiet in the BIOS and set Windows power management to "minimal" -- is there anything else I need to do to enable Cool 'n Quiet functionality?
Also, should I just control the CPU fan manually through a drive bay fan controller instead of through Cool 'n Quiet?
Thanks,
-Ross

Hi
Glad to see we are down to minor bits and bobs.
The bios version should be at top of first post screen. use pause if its passes to quick.
BUT, live update checks what version you have, if there is a newer version it will tell you. there is a 1.33 available from MSI, but not on live update yet.
There are various threads on C & Q, I don't use it, but some who do like it, others confused by it, you have obviously read the threads. So you know more than me !!
Hyperion 4 in 1 is the best driver, if C & Q is working for you I would leave it be, the fan will speed up or slow down on temp. That will take a few secs time lag as chip heats up, or cools down. As long as CPU temp stays within norms, I would think is is working normally.
Enjoy it
Jocko

How to disable Cool N Quiet driver when it isnt in the bios or registry for Roxio game capture?

1. HP G60-120 US Notebook PC
2. Windows 7 32-bit
3. No error messages
4. No changes before issue occured.
I was told by Roxio (company of the capture card I bought to record gameplay on my Xbox) to call HP and get my Cool N Quiet driver disabled after I updated my other drivers and still had problems with my capture card. Can somebody tell me where to find it other than in the registry and bios because it is NOT in there and I have looked already more than 5 times or if you know where I can get it remotely disabled. HP cannot remotely disable it because I just talked to them and they don't have the power to do that.

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Originally posted by kensterman
Does Cool n' Quiet need any software for it to work, or does the CPU/Fan slow down automatically? I notice that I have to use MSI's Core Center to activiate Cool n' Quiet. Anyone??
No, Corecenter is almost useless and is NOT needed to "activate" Cool n Quiet. The best it can do is tell you fan speed and temps, and even that is questionable. It will also tell you clock speed but you can get that from right clicking "My Computer" choose Properties, go to General tab, note mhz displayed there. If it is about half of full clock speed for your CPU, then CnQ is working right. If it shows full clock speed, then CoolnQuiet is NOT working and you need to re-read Mr. Woo's original post which gives details about how to enable it.
Next, about fan speed. You have to understand that CnQ does not have anything to do with fan speed directly. Unless you have fan speed control disabled in BIOS, then your fan is going to control as you described whether you have CnQ enabled or not. In BIOS, in the H/W Monitor section, there is a place to enable or disable fan speed control - it's called CPU Smart Temperature Monitor or something like that.
As long as it is enabled and your fan is compatible and hooked up right, the fan will ramp up and down to control temperature. This is independent of CnQ. And it is independent of Corecenter. Disable CnQ and shutdown CoreCenter, the mobo still controls fan speed.

MSI Z87-G45 Latest beta bios problem?

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BIOS update on my system... and now i can't disable Cool n' Quiet...
I set this feature "Disable" in the BIOS but continues enable!!!

I think this thread belongs in the BIOS area but that's no biggie -
I have a similar but not exactly the same setup:
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AMD Venice 3500+, Zalman 7000 AlCu cooler
No O/C
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MSI K8N Neo3 how to install cool n quiet

can any one tell me how to install cool n quiet on k8n neo3.
is core center enough to do the job of cool n quiet.
Is my board is compatible with cool n quiet
I am using AMD athlon 2800+ and k8n neo3with MSI FX5200 VGA card

Refer to page 1-9 of your manual.
Enable the feature in the bios.
Select "minimal power management" in Windows power schemes.
You don't need to install core center for it to work, it just lets you visually know it's working. AMD also has a small utility to visuallize the CPU throttlling.
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WinXP SP2
Having Cool'n Quiet disabled in BIOS setup, CPU core voltage adjustment
using 'Adjust CPU VID' below the Athlon 64 default 1,5V core voltage
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bug?
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Quote from: Tiresmoke on 21-March-05, 00:19:19
As undervolting is not considured standard operating proceedures then how can it be considured a bug.
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So this mobo is designed for supporting at least one non standard operating procedure
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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=95822.msg726354#msg726354

[Athlon64] No Cool'n'Quiet in K8MM-ILSR alias MSI 6741 + Athlon 64 2800.

Hi everybody,
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My fan speed is always at 3013, when I start CoreCenter (Last version of msi utility) I have no option for Cool'n'quiet.
With Google image i have seen some screen shoot with Cool'n'Quiet in CoreCenter.
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Quote from: dannol48 on 25-May-05, 20:57:16
Cool'n'Quiet and fan control are separate functions. I've got the board (see specs) and CnQ is working fine. My core frequency and core voltage do throttle.
Fan Control isn't an AMD CnQ function. Varying fan speed is a different function that's dependent on the motherboard's engineering. That's done by varying the voltage to the fan headers. I don't believe this board has that abiliity.
Danno
Edit: Using fans with thermistors to vary RPM can accomplish that function independent of the board.
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MSI 785GT-E63 & Windows 7 x64 : Cool'n'Quiet

Hello,
Can you help me to configure my mainboard to active Cool'n'Qiet and Windows 7 x64.
I have Cool'n'Quiet : Enable in my Bios.
I have follow this method for Windows : http://www.vista4beginners.com/power-management
But my problem is that my CPU fan isn't lower.
I have try with "Dual Core Center" and it's work in "Silence mode" but i don't know how configure it to auto launch in "Silence mode"
I will prefere using Cool'nQuiet without other software like "Dual Core Center" but if there aren't other solution i will use it.
Thanks for reply.
Excuse me for my English : a litthe frenchy
Config :
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Quote from: Bas on 23-October-09, 20:14:59
Go into the BIOS and look for Smartfan or SmartFantarget, something like that.
Enable it and set the right values.
That does normally the fan controlling.
Thanks but, what are the right values ?

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Gman22

@Gman - I see now, what you meant. Another workaround: Speedfan.
@Bas: Gman referred to the bug in Core Center, where fan speed can't be controlled if CnQ is enabled.
Yes, I know that CnQ is something else than fan control.
Fan (the hardware way) control on K8T Neo2-F(IR) is fixed and can not be set by user. Actually CPU fan speed will normally be 2/3. I think that CFAN will rise to 100% if a certain temperature is reached. Although SFAN could be regulated, too, MSI apparently decided to let this on 100% speed.
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