MSI Big Bang II Advice...

I just put my system together (ordered MSI X79 Big Bang II motherboard from newegg early june 2013)and everything looks good (haven't installed an OS yet)
Before I go any further, is there anything I should look out for?
What Bios do I want?
Will be using Raid 0 for secondary drives (OS drive will be SSD)..Will It work (i've heard some stories of loosing raid drives during sleep)
Is windows 7 or 8 more stable? UEFI or Legacy Install?
thanks for the advice,
Rich

I'm listing my components here:
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K
RAm: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3 1600 F3-12800CL10Q2-64GBZL
GPU: Nvidia Gtx 780
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD500BW 2.5" 500GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Raid:(2) TOSHIBA DT01ACA300 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA Drives
Power: Corsair 860i Platinum Power
Custom watercooled loop..(cpu and video card are watercooled)
Everything tested and working, looking now to set things up for long term stability.
Any recommendations for:
Bios
Windows 7 or 8? Full Uefi install?
Will setting up the Raid for Storage be a huge PITA?
Thanks for the help,
-D

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Hello Everyone!
Looking for some quick advice, I am looking into the MSI Big Bang Xpower II motherboard for its rich features, solid CAPS (Very important to me), Admittedly, I wont be doing ALOT of Overclocking, but want the stability. I am building an Audio Workstation, I was looking at the workstation "ws" board of another "Company" for LGA2011 but noticed it lacked any sort of detail for if it had solid caps (the "company's dept, couldn't verify if it did either)
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Well, that board has the best of components available. It features Super Ferrite Chokes and Solid Caps. The best you can get at least.
Concerning Protools I have no idea.

MSI BIG BANG TRINERGY dual channel problem!

Hey forum, I just installed a newly bought msi big bang trinergy. Everything went according to plan except from the point where I installed the 4gb (2x2gb) ram dimms( I have the XMS3, 4gb kit by Corsair).
Let it be noted that i followed the instruction manual and installed the dimms in the proper slots. Then when the moment of truth came and powered up my pc, it wouldnt boot. It would go into an endless restart cycle without booting. Then i unplugged the dimm3 and started only using dimm1 and everything went well. I also switched the ram dimms (in case one of them was faulty) and placed it in dimm1 and again there was no problem.
My take on this situation is that there must be some hardware problem concerning DIMM3. I also run a BIOS update in hopes that something might change but no luck.
..So what is your take on this?
Thank you in advance for the advice.
P.S Since i had a P55 mobo before Big bang i read that format is not necessary so i didnt format the pc. Can that be the cause of the dual channel mal-function?

Quote from: Jack on 11-May-11, 22:57:43
Nope.
There are a couple of explanations for the behaviour:
1) there is a problem with the modules
2) the memory slot itself or underlying circuits is/are defective
3) there is a short circuit problem somewhere inside the case which basically blocks that particular memory slot
4) the CPU (or its memory controller) is defective
5) there is some sort of pin-contact problem [bad contacts between the board's socket pins and the contact pads of the processor], caused by bent or broken pins or by too much pressure exerted by the CPU's heatsink
I would start poking at explanation 3) by testing the board outside the case on a non-conducting surface in barebone configuration and, in case that does not change anything, go for number 5): take off the heatsink and inspect both socket pins and contact pads for any irregularities [use a magnifying glass!]
I went to a technician to check the mobo where we tried different memory modules and cpu (100% working ) on a bench table.The pins on the mobo were not bent or anything. We checked all the points you mentioned that needed to be checked but still the problem persisted so it was a memory slot problem. Thanks for all the help! Really appreciate it, the replaced mobo works perfectly

MSI Big Bang Trinergy Memory problem.....

I recently purchased a Bing Bang Trinergy mobo. It's combined with an Intel i3 540 cpu and 2 Kingston KVR1333D3N9/2G ram modules. The mobo came with BIOS 1.1 version. When I've tried to update the BIOS to any version above 1.1 (1.2, 1.3, 1.4) and DUAL MEMORY CHANNEL is used, the system rans to slow, jerky sound immersed (can't play any video), the cores show above 60% load all the time, playing games is impossible (system hangs or blue screens appears), takes ages to load win7 Ultimate. I've tried everything, manual setting the timings of the ram, voltage, command rate 2N, nothing works. I've also test the system with 2xKINGSTON KHX1600C9AD3B1/2G ram modules but the same results obtained. I've checked all possible positions in dual channel mode, nothing. When only one module is used (single channel) then everything is ok. All the ram modules passed the memtest and verified for the their good working state.
The strange thing is that when the BIOS 1.1 version is used everything runs smoothly. BIOS update was perfomed with 2 different ways : 1. MSI windows application and 2. in DOS mode. Also the sound card (if God makes it a soundcard) sometimes worked and sometimes didn't.
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The strange thing is that when the BIOS 1.1 version is used everything runs smoothly.
The course of action seems clear. Revert & use 1.1.
This thread may have some good advice; https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=141272.0
Recommend to open a ticket with MSI Tech Support detailing your findings. They may be able to duplicate everything & address it in an updated bios. For bios flashing, it is highly recommended to use this forum's USB Flasher. You can find it along with instructions in the Download Section of the forum. It is also always recommended to do a 'power cord removed' from PSU clearining of CMOS after a flash.

MSI Big Bang. MSI LiveUpdate failed.

I'm doing a review for one of the hardwares by MSI. And while I was doing it halfway, the card keep crashing which I believe is driver issues. But even after updating to the latest driver, 10.12a hotfix, the problem still persist. So I asked around what should I do and most of the answers I received is "update your BIOS".
Okay, so I take heed of their advice and updated my BIOS to 1.4 using MSI Live Update 4. stupid me! And after using that tool to update it, my computer is stuck at the Windows "Welcome" screen, and the whole screen turn blue after that. So I tried to flash the old BIOS @ M-Flash, I selected "BIOS Update" and then I continued to "Save and Exit". And it restarts again and I hit "DEL" to go back to the BIOS. Guess what? the instead of "BIOS Update", it's "Disabled". I tried clearing CMOS and everything, but it still fails. Now I can't even flash the old BIOS.
it's a hassle to RMA stuff, I'm sure you guys understand right? :-X
here is my specs.
i7-870
MSI Big Bang Fuzion
Kingston Value RAM 2X2GB
MSI HD6870
MSI HD6850 Cyclone Power Edition
Samsung SpinPoint F3
Seasonic X-750W

I am not talking about M-Flash.
Please do this:
1. Prepare USB Flash Drive for booting DOS (do that on a second computer that has Windows on it):
- Dowload the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool and the DOS-Files.rar archive which I am attaching to this reply
- Install the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool and extract the DOS-Files from the DOS-Files.rar archive to a folder of your choice
- Start the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool , select your USB Flash Drive, set the File System to FAT32, mark the Create a DOS startup disk option and then point the tool to the folder which contains the DOS Files you extracted.
- Click "Start" and let the tool prepare your USB Flash Drive
- your USB Flash Drive is now bootable
2. Copy BIOS File and Flasher to the prepared Flash Drive:
- Download the v1.4 BIG Bang Fuzion BIOS Archive via this link: http://download1.msi.com/files/downloads/bos_exe/7582v14.zip
- Extract the BIOS File (A7582IMS.140) and the Flasher (AFUD4310.EXE) from the downloaded archive and copy both files to the prepared USB Flash Drive
3. Boot from the prepared USB Flash Drive:
- unplug ALL(!) hard drives, optical drives, floppy drives, card readers etc. from your system (so that the prepared USB Flash Drive will be the ONLY(!) drive attached to it
- when you start the system it has no other choice than to boot from the USB Flash Drive after you press F2 when you get the CMOS Checksum error
- you should then reach the DOS Command Prompt
4. Flashing the BIOS from the DOS Command Prompt:
- simply enter AFUD4310 A7582IMS.140 /P /B /N /C
- ... and wait until the flash procedure finishes
- once the flash procedure is done, turn off your system, unplug your PSU from A/C power and >>Clear CMOS<< again
- press F1 to enter BIOS Setup and load "Optimized Defaults" --> then Save & Exit and see if the problem is gone or not
Please only use one(!) memory module in the first black slot when you do this procedure!

MSI Big Bang Xpower II did not post - Debug LED Code #67

I need HELP...!
I have a problem my board did not post , did not start and i have the DEBUG LED CODE # 67 displayed.
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When I put the power on, the power supply activated fans and drives spin, all the LEDs on the motherboard light up but nothing appears on the screen.
No video signal at all and the computer stop and restrart every 15 seconds. When these reset occurs there is no beep on the speaker , nothing at all, no flashing screen either, nothing.
The DEBUG LED display a sequence of flashing numbers 19 - 60 - 19- 60 - 67 and stop showing still the number # 67 for about ten seconds and then he reset again.
I carefully followed the instruction manual for the installation, I installed the memory modules in slots 1 3 5 7, i put my video card in slot PCI-E2. all the power wire are connected correctly 1 x 24 pins ATX, 2 x 8 pins ATX, 1 X 6 pins , all the wire from the front panel are correctly connected to the m-connector in JFP1 & 2.
Did i forget something, I don’t know what the debug led code # 67 exactly mean and what i have to do to fix-it
Someone has an idea what is wrong or have any suggestion to solve this issue.
Thank's all for your help.

I followed some advice to remove the memory modules and this is actually caused by the use of memory but you will see I still have a curious bug.
I referred to the instructions manual to the letter for the choice of DIMM SLOT to put the memory module in single, double, triple and quad channels.
If I install 1 memory module in the DIMM SLOT 1 to operate in single channel, everything is normal and the motherboard POST normally and show the SETUP SCREEN.
If I install 2 memory modules in DIMM SLOT 1 & 3 to run in dual channel, everything is normal and the motherboard POST normally and show the SETUP SCREEN.
If I install three memory modules in DIMM SLOT 1 - 3 - 5 to run in triple channel, everything is normal and the motherboard POST normally and show the SETUP SCREEN.
As soon as I install four DIMMs modules mémoiredans SLOT 1 - 3 - 5 - 7 to run in quad channel, the motherboard freezes and does NOT POST and show code 67 on the debug led and has reset itself every 20 seconds.
I tried all my RAM modules alternately in both single channel and everything works normally.
I did the same thing in rotation for both dual and triple channel and everything is still normal with all fourth memory modules individually.
As soon as I put a fourth memory module it freezes and displays the code 67 or L9 dependent side as you look.
So my bug is my motherboard MSI Big Bang Xpower II do not want to work in quad channel.
Do you have any idea where I should look for, is a setting in the BIOS , I have flashed the bios to the latest version V1.5
I included the screenshot of the BIOS to see if you can notice something wrong.
Thank you

MSI BIG BANG Xpower II boot issue - LED code 9A

Hello all,
I am facing to issue after BIOS update from 2.6 to 2.7. After update was machine working properly. But after one crash of OS cant boot at all. Crash was probably caused by overloading GPUs but there were no issue with cards and this board during 3 weeks of 100% GPU and CPU load. No video (connected only one GPU card), no Numlock key/led is working (this is good test if PC is reacting even no picture).
Board: MSI BIG BANG XPOWER II
Bios: Version 2.7
VGA: 4x AMD SAPPHIRE Radeon R9 290x
PSU: Silverstone 1500W (gold)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011
MEM: 1x Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL10 HyperX blu Edition
HDD: WD Blue 256gb 5400
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OC: 3.9GHz
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- switch BIOS from A to B also C (with small switch).
- cleared Cmos with onboard button.
- removed Battery for a while
System start booting and stuck always on 9a LED code.
From manual it looks like it is USB, SATA initialisation phase.
I think CPU or Mem should be fine.
Anyone who met this issue or any sollution?
I am thinking to replace this board under warranty.
Thanks for any info..

Quote from: Wigo on 21-March-14, 02:45:54
Hi Froggy,
Thanks for reply.
But I have tried disconnected all USB devices and got same LED code. If this happend because of some USB configuration in BIOS why reset of CMOS did not help?
It very well could be setting(s) in the BIOS, but I am not qualified to be of much assistance when Win 8/8.1 is involved.

MSI Big Bang Marshal - Questions

Hello all
I am new here and I have been doing research on components for a new computer I am making a shopping list for. I have a few questions I have not been able to find any information online. Here goes
1. Anything specific I should know about the motherboard other then whats in the specs? Problems, quirks, etc?
2. Does the motherboard only support 2x Dual Video cards like 2x Nvidia GTX 590 or can I use 4x Nvidia GTX 480s?
3. P67 motherboards with the nf200 on them support 24 pci-e lanes. if I use:
PCI_E1 - 8x
PCI_E3 - 8x
PCI_E5 - 8x
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But there are still:
PCI_E2 - 1x
PCI_E4 - 1x
PCI_E6 - 1x
PCI_E8 - 1x
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4. If you do Dual, Tri, Quad-SLI and have a PhysX card, how many PCI-E lanes will your PhysX card consume? Is it set by the NVIDIA control panel, the number of lanes of the chipset divided by the mount of video cards or by the card itself?
5. When people say Dual, Tri, Quad-SLI +PhysX, does it mean (Dual -1(PhysX), Tri -1(PhysX), Quad -1(PhysX) or does it mean (Dual +1, Tri +1, Quad +1)?
6. I know Scalability of increasing arrays of video cards is pretty poor, but could I do Quad SLI +PhysX using the MSI Big Bang Marshal?
7. Which is most advantageous, Tri SLI +PhysX, Quad SLI, Quad SLI +PhysX?
8. Sorry, probably not related, but I wanted to do Raid with SSD's for very fast reads and writes yet have redundancy. I wanted to get some OCZ Vertex 3s and I was reading about how Raid 5 was interesting but apparently Raid 5 increases the degredation of SSD? Has anyone experienced this or have any suggestions on best raid configurations?
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P67 motherboards with the nf200 on them support 24 pci-e lanes. if I use:
PCI_E1 - 8x
PCI_E3 - 8x
PCI_E5 - 8x
PCI_E7 - 8x
Makes up 24
By my count, that makes 32 lanes. If not done so, a lot of pre preparation information can be gathered at the MSI Global Website. All the basic & more detailed information can be found there. The downloadable pdf manual is usually much more comprehensive than the manual that comes with the board as well, & can probably answer a lot of your questions. I don't believe the board can do Quad GTX 480 SLI.

MSI Big Bang xPower II PCI-e 3.0 Problem

Hey Guys
I´ve got a big problem with my Big Bang Xpower II Mainboard. Although i´ve got at PCI-e compatible (Gigabybte GTX760 OC) which is placed in PCI-e Slot 1 and PCI-e Gen 3 activated my Board doesn´t activate PCI-e 3. I´ve already tried to install the UEFI on several ways but nothing helped.
My specs:
Mainboard: MSI Big Bang xPower II
CPU: Intel I7 4820k
VGA: Gigabyte GTX760 OC
Soundcard: Creative Soundblaster Z
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB 1866MHz
sry if there are Mistakes my english is not so good because im from Germany and and im still a student
thanks for your help

Aha, but how windows changes will affect BIOS PCI-e version reading?
etc: this one which you said:
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You can see the PCI-e Version activated before the Xpower BIOS Screen shows off (the where it show all data about the ASMedai chip ...
or this still shows 2.0 during bios post screen?

MSI Big Bang-XPower, Corsair AX1200W and 6-pin motherboard connector

Hello, I apologize if this has been answered but I didn't seem to find it on the forums. I have the Corsair AX1200 power supply and the MSI Big Bang-XPower motherboard. The board has two ATX 8-pin connectors. I know that the second one is only needed if you are doing serious overcloking. But I assume it's ok to plug both in whether or not I'm overclocking?? I see the AX1200 has two EPS/ATX 8-4 pin connectors so I am fine there.
My real question is that the mother board also has an ATX 6-pin connector for the graphics card. Firstly, is this needed since the graphics card has it's own power connector (I have the EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580). The card needs a PCI-E 6 pin and an 8 pin connector. I see the AX1200 has six 6+2 pin connectors so I believe I'm fine there.
But for the motherboard connector, can i use one of the PCE-E 6+2 pin connectors (just 6 pins obviously), or is this not good sine the connector is not labeled as an ATX connector?
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Quote from: magicant on 03-December-10, 14:38:02
Hello, I apologize if this has been answered but I didn't seem to find it on the forums. I have the Corsair AX1200 power supply and the MSI Big Bang-XPower motherboard. The board has two ATX 8-pin connectors. I know that the second one is only needed if you are doing serious overcloking. But I assume it's ok to plug both in whether or not I'm overclocking?? I see the AX1200 has two EPS/ATX 8-4 pin connectors so I am fine there.
M
Hi,
Bumping this as it is the question I have. How does the motherboard access this power from the EPS? It is constantly available to the cpu? Would it not be better to plug in the 2x8 pin EPS anyway as it gives a greater redundancy?
I am sorry if this is a stupid question but I recently got flamed on a forum for carrying on about connecting the EPS cables up to my Corsair Ax850. The flamers carried on and on about how I would never need to use the EPS unless it was LN2 cooling.
I cannot see the harm in it but I would like to understand computer power supplies a bit more and how exactly they work. For example why do some vid cards have 6 pin and other 8 pin when it looks as if both plugs just have a 12 volt lead on one row and the other row a ground lead?
Anyhoo.
Happy first post to me.

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Quote from: seth.eckert
I have the pump just on a sys power fan
The pump is not working. The 3-pin connector for a fan header is just for reading out pump speed. You need to power it with the molex connector.

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Hi all,
yesterday i recieved my new MSI Big Bang XPower II and got some really strange issues:
First of all ill let you know my hardware:
MSI Big Bang XPower II (BIOS v1.4) new
Intel I7 Extreme 3960X new
G.SKILL 64GB RAM Kit 1600 new
Palit NVIDIA GTX 680 - 4096 near new
3 x RME Soundcards used but okay
7 x WD 2TB SATA where 3 are OS Systems and 4 are Storage used but okay
Be Quiet Dark Power 1200W new
1 Problem:
There is absolutely no Firewire available. I tested the onboard connection (which is at the backplate) and i also tested the extension connection with a additional firewire slot. Also it seems that wether Windows nor Linux is recognizing the firewire at all. The strange thing is that i recieved this new board after i send the first one back to my reseller with exactly the same problem!!! I also take a look into the BIOS if there is any option i need to activate but as far as i see there is nothing to set for 1394?
2 Problem:
As you can read above i use my GTX680 and all 3 RME Soundcards each with one PCI Slot. But some of the slots are not working fine. If i, for example mount my GTX680 to Slot 1 and want to mount my first RME Souncard to slot 4 (2 and 3 are covered under my GTX680) its not working. If i try it in slot 6 for example, the soundcard works fine.
BUT:
The slot 4 is not damaged cause if i set my GTX680 to slot 8 and retry my RME Cards in slot 4 its working...
Never had that before!
I connected the 24pin ATX and both 8pin connectors (the 4pin additional connector for the graphics is not used).
Would be nice if someone guiding me through the dark

Quote from: RemusM on 02-March-13, 23:12:26
With so many components and shared resources, you are gambling with IORQs and I/O addressing space.
Mmmhmm i dont thought about getting interrupts, MSI is offering the board with that configration/features and if there is one user out who try to use the board near to the fullest it should of course work or not?!
Quote from: RemusM on 02-March-13, 23:12:26
What is the purpose of your build anyway?
Well im a musician and need a lot of storage ;-)
Quote from: RemusM on 02-March-13, 23:12:26
Why do you need GTX 680
Thats for sure only for gaming
Quote from: RemusM on 02-March-13, 23:12:26
64GB RAM
Got it new and very cheap (VERY!!)
Quote from: RemusM on 02-March-13, 23:12:26
and 3 sound cards
Like i say im a musician
Quote from: RemusM on 02-March-13, 23:12:26
And why do you need 7 HDDs
Also for store all samples and that stuff

MSI big bang marshal B3 HECI pointer mismatch

Hi all
I have a MSI big bang marshal B3 with a 2600K cpu, i flashed the motherboard with 3.1 and 3.0 bios but can't change cpu multiplier
Finally i went back to 1.5 bios and all is good but now i have the "HECI pointer mismatch" at boot and can't find my secondary HDD in Windows.
I tried the MSI USB flashing Tools but same problem
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You have this issue due to a downgrade without a special archive required. It is actually recommended to use bios 3.1 any way. Note that you need to use +/- keys of numpad to alter core ratio in later versions.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=166680.msg1220674#msg1220674

MSI Big Bang-XPower II SLI question

Hello. I have a MSI Big Bang-XPower II with two cards in SLI. The cards are cooled using AIO water cooling brackets which makes them take up three slots each instead of two. I would like to add a third card with the same cooling. The manual says that for 3-way sli I should use slots 1,3 and 5 or 7 as they are all PCIe 3. My processor doesn't do PCIe 3 so I leave it in PCIe 2 mode. My question is, could I set up the SLI configuration using slots 1, 4 and 7? Would it run at 16/8/8 in pcie 2? Or would the 4th slot not be usable for sli?
Thanks

No, that is not possible. PCI_E4 is a gen2 slot limited to x4. SLI is disabled once a slot used is at less than 8 lanes. Follow the Multi GPU support table on 1-21 of your manual.

MSI Big Bang XPower II X79 release date

Whats the release date for this motherboard to the UNITED STATES?
MSI Big Bang XPower II X79 LGA 2011

We don't know, we have nothing to do with MSI marketing. We are MSI product users the same as you helping each other with problems and have nothing to do directly with MSI. You would need to ask MSI. Question like that my typical answer is that you will know the release date after you see it for sale in the stores.
>> How to contact MSI <<
http://us.msi.com/service/PreSaleForm/
As a matter of fact if we knew the release dates of products like that we would post it in the forum to avoid those kind of questions all of the time.

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