MSI Big Bang Trinergy Pre-Order questions?

On this page it says
http://event.msi.com/mb/bigbang/preorder/
"All those who pre-order the MSI Big Bang-Trinergy motherboard between Nov 30 and Dec 15 are qualified to receive exclusive gaming bundle. Besides, MSI will protect your new purchase with 8-year Exclusive Warranty! "
Then when I go here
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Special/MSI_BigBangTrinergy_120709.jsp?intpromo=MSI_BigBangTrinergy_120709_HPG
Which is the USA pre order place it says
Dec 7 and Dec 21st
So which is it?
Also when it says Register for 8 year warranty it says serial number. How do I know my serial number if I have not received the product yet? Also when is this thing being released? I just want to make sure if I pre order I get the 8 year warranty. I already have the gd80 but I really want this board for the warranty and the extra features. Thanks guys.

It seems to me you pre order and then you register it with the serial number after you receive the product to get the 8 year warranty.
Products have to be registered within 30 days from original date of pre-order purchase to receive our limited 8 years warranty. (Products failed to register within 30 days will still receive standard 3 years warranty).
A little extra research by you would have come up with this same little tidbit of information.

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Hey forum, I just installed a newly bought msi big bang trinergy. Everything went according to plan except from the point where I installed the 4gb (2x2gb) ram dimms( I have the XMS3, 4gb kit by Corsair).
Let it be noted that i followed the instruction manual and installed the dimms in the proper slots. Then when the moment of truth came and powered up my pc, it wouldnt boot. It would go into an endless restart cycle without booting. Then i unplugged the dimm3 and started only using dimm1 and everything went well. I also switched the ram dimms (in case one of them was faulty) and placed it in dimm1 and again there was no problem.
My take on this situation is that there must be some hardware problem concerning DIMM3. I also run a BIOS update in hopes that something might change but no luck.
..So what is your take on this?
Thank you in advance for the advice.
P.S Since i had a P55 mobo before Big bang i read that format is not necessary so i didnt format the pc. Can that be the cause of the dual channel mal-function?

Quote from: Jack on 11-May-11, 22:57:43
Nope.
There are a couple of explanations for the behaviour:
1) there is a problem with the modules
2) the memory slot itself or underlying circuits is/are defective
3) there is a short circuit problem somewhere inside the case which basically blocks that particular memory slot
4) the CPU (or its memory controller) is defective
5) there is some sort of pin-contact problem [bad contacts between the board's socket pins and the contact pads of the processor], caused by bent or broken pins or by too much pressure exerted by the CPU's heatsink
I would start poking at explanation 3) by testing the board outside the case on a non-conducting surface in barebone configuration and, in case that does not change anything, go for number 5): take off the heatsink and inspect both socket pins and contact pads for any irregularities [use a magnifying glass!]
I went to a technician to check the mobo where we tried different memory modules and cpu (100% working ) on a bench table.The pins on the mobo were not bent or anything. We checked all the points you mentioned that needed to be checked but still the problem persisted so it was a memory slot problem. Thanks for all the help! Really appreciate it, the replaced mobo works perfectly

MSI Big Bang Trinergy Memory problem.....

I recently purchased a Bing Bang Trinergy mobo. It's combined with an Intel i3 540 cpu and 2 Kingston KVR1333D3N9/2G ram modules. The mobo came with BIOS 1.1 version. When I've tried to update the BIOS to any version above 1.1 (1.2, 1.3, 1.4) and DUAL MEMORY CHANNEL is used, the system rans to slow, jerky sound immersed (can't play any video), the cores show above 60% load all the time, playing games is impossible (system hangs or blue screens appears), takes ages to load win7 Ultimate. I've tried everything, manual setting the timings of the ram, voltage, command rate 2N, nothing works. I've also test the system with 2xKINGSTON KHX1600C9AD3B1/2G ram modules but the same results obtained. I've checked all possible positions in dual channel mode, nothing. When only one module is used (single channel) then everything is ok. All the ram modules passed the memtest and verified for the their good working state.
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The strange thing is that when the BIOS 1.1 version is used everything runs smoothly.
The course of action seems clear. Revert & use 1.1.
This thread may have some good advice; https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=141272.0
Recommend to open a ticket with MSI Tech Support detailing your findings. They may be able to duplicate everything & address it in an updated bios. For bios flashing, it is highly recommended to use this forum's USB Flasher. You can find it along with instructions in the Download Section of the forum. It is also always recommended to do a 'power cord removed' from PSU clearining of CMOS after a flash.

MSI Big Bang-XPower II SLI question

Hello. I have a MSI Big Bang-XPower II with two cards in SLI. The cards are cooled using AIO water cooling brackets which makes them take up three slots each instead of two. I would like to add a third card with the same cooling. The manual says that for 3-way sli I should use slots 1,3 and 5 or 7 as they are all PCIe 3. My processor doesn't do PCIe 3 so I leave it in PCIe 2 mode. My question is, could I set up the SLI configuration using slots 1, 4 and 7? Would it run at 16/8/8 in pcie 2? Or would the 4th slot not be usable for sli?
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Bang!!!!
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Memory modules for Msi Big Bang trinergy

Hey forum,
i want to buy some memory modules for my trinergy mobo because the ones i had earlier also proved to be incompatible. I would like to ask you if there are any memory modules besides the ones recommended from the MSI site concerning my mobo. I am looking for a 2x2 gb ram kit with a heat dispenser so it can work around 1600mHz. Thank you in advance
P.S Is the list on the site the only one? i mean are there any updated versions of it with more high end memory modules tested?

Ideally you would provide us with your fullsystem specs first >>Posting Guide<<
From a memory perspective, the reason these modules have heatspreaders is mostly due to marketing and to impress the potential buyers. The secondary reason is that most manufacturers sell you overvolted and overclocked 1066 or 1333 chips on a 1600 marketed module that needs 1,65V instead of the standard 1,5V. Your memory controller is part of the CPU and natively only supports 1333 at 1,5V.
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Big Bang Trinergy - Freezes on boot & randomly

Hi,
Got a Big Bang Trinergy (BIOS 1.40) and been having problems since the first day I installed it.
It freezes several times in the boot-sequence. Manual restart is needed and several attempts are made before it successfully launches and loads Windows.
It seems to have problems synchronizing the hard drives, since a lot of times they react as they where server-drives and not locally installed on my computer. (Note that I have disabled the Win7 feature of putting the hard drives in sleep mode).
I also have major problems with the screen not showing anything when trying to boot. When it doesn't show anything, it also do not continue the boot sequence and I am forced to do a manual reboot (cutting the power or holding down the PWR switch).
On rare occasions when I'm actually able to load Windows 7 and start using the computer, it sometimes just freezes and stays that way. No blue-screen (most of the times), no errors or automatic reboot - nothing.
I did get blue-screen once and got the following error-codes from Windows the next time I was able to load the OS;
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name:   BlueScreen
OS Version:   6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID:   1053
Additional information about the problem:
BCCode:   116
BCP1:   FFFFFA8006C7A4E0
BCP2:   FFFFF880105CCC88
BCP3:   FFFFFFFFC000009A
BCP4:   0000000000000004
OS Version:   6_1_7600
Service Pack:   0_0
Product:   256_1
Haven't found anything about this on the Internet though.
Would be very thankful for any advice or/and help I can get.
Thanks again in advance!

Hi again,
Sorry, missed that information. Hope below is sufficient.
Hardware & Software details
MSI Big Bang Trinergy (MS-7580) (BIOS v1.4)
Intel Core i5 760 2,80 GHz
Kingston DDR3 HyperX 1333 MHz 4GB
MSI GeForce GTX 465 1GB
WD 10,000 RPM, 36GB (Main disc)
Windows 7, 64-bit
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MSI Big Bang Marshal - Questions

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I am new here and I have been doing research on components for a new computer I am making a shopping list for. I have a few questions I have not been able to find any information online. Here goes
1. Anything specific I should know about the motherboard other then whats in the specs? Problems, quirks, etc?
2. Does the motherboard only support 2x Dual Video cards like 2x Nvidia GTX 590 or can I use 4x Nvidia GTX 480s?
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PCI_E3 - 8x
PCI_E5 - 8x
PCI_E7 - 8x
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PCI_E4 - 1x
PCI_E6 - 1x
PCI_E8 - 1x
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4. If you do Dual, Tri, Quad-SLI and have a PhysX card, how many PCI-E lanes will your PhysX card consume? Is it set by the NVIDIA control panel, the number of lanes of the chipset divided by the mount of video cards or by the card itself?
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7. Which is most advantageous, Tri SLI +PhysX, Quad SLI, Quad SLI +PhysX?
8. Sorry, probably not related, but I wanted to do Raid with SSD's for very fast reads and writes yet have redundancy. I wanted to get some OCZ Vertex 3s and I was reading about how Raid 5 was interesting but apparently Raid 5 increases the degredation of SSD? Has anyone experienced this or have any suggestions on best raid configurations?
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P67 motherboards with the nf200 on them support 24 pci-e lanes. if I use:
PCI_E1 - 8x
PCI_E3 - 8x
PCI_E5 - 8x
PCI_E7 - 8x
Makes up 24
By my count, that makes 32 lanes. If not done so, a lot of pre preparation information can be gathered at the MSI Global Website. All the basic & more detailed information can be found there. The downloadable pdf manual is usually much more comprehensive than the manual that comes with the board as well, & can probably answer a lot of your questions. I don't believe the board can do Quad GTX 480 SLI.

MSI Big Bang-XPower, Corsair AX1200W and 6-pin motherboard connector

Hello, I apologize if this has been answered but I didn't seem to find it on the forums. I have the Corsair AX1200 power supply and the MSI Big Bang-XPower motherboard. The board has two ATX 8-pin connectors. I know that the second one is only needed if you are doing serious overcloking. But I assume it's ok to plug both in whether or not I'm overclocking?? I see the AX1200 has two EPS/ATX 8-4 pin connectors so I am fine there.
My real question is that the mother board also has an ATX 6-pin connector for the graphics card. Firstly, is this needed since the graphics card has it's own power connector (I have the EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580). The card needs a PCI-E 6 pin and an 8 pin connector. I see the AX1200 has six 6+2 pin connectors so I believe I'm fine there.
But for the motherboard connector, can i use one of the PCE-E 6+2 pin connectors (just 6 pins obviously), or is this not good sine the connector is not labeled as an ATX connector?
Thank you.

Quote from: magicant on 03-December-10, 14:38:02
Hello, I apologize if this has been answered but I didn't seem to find it on the forums. I have the Corsair AX1200 power supply and the MSI Big Bang-XPower motherboard. The board has two ATX 8-pin connectors. I know that the second one is only needed if you are doing serious overcloking. But I assume it's ok to plug both in whether or not I'm overclocking?? I see the AX1200 has two EPS/ATX 8-4 pin connectors so I am fine there.
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Hi,
Bumping this as it is the question I have. How does the motherboard access this power from the EPS? It is constantly available to the cpu? Would it not be better to plug in the 2x8 pin EPS anyway as it gives a greater redundancy?
I am sorry if this is a stupid question but I recently got flamed on a forum for carrying on about connecting the EPS cables up to my Corsair Ax850. The flamers carried on and on about how I would never need to use the EPS unless it was LN2 cooling.
I cannot see the harm in it but I would like to understand computer power supplies a bit more and how exactly they work. For example why do some vid cards have 6 pin and other 8 pin when it looks as if both plugs just have a 12 volt lead on one row and the other row a ground lead?
Anyhoo.
Happy first post to me.

Big Bang Trinergy

Hello,
I have been drooling over pictures and stats of the new BIG BANG Trinergy and I want to get it, but I want to hear from some forum members their exp with said board. I have found a few reviews but hard to say how objective they are. So please if you know anything about the Trinergy board (good or bad) please post below. I have never had a MSI board and if there is anything unique to MSI motherboards please inform me to those things as well.
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MSI Big Bang XPower II X79 release date

Whats the release date for this motherboard to the UNITED STATES?
MSI Big Bang XPower II X79 LGA 2011

We don't know, we have nothing to do with MSI marketing. We are MSI product users the same as you helping each other with problems and have nothing to do directly with MSI. You would need to ask MSI. Question like that my typical answer is that you will know the release date after you see it for sale in the stores.
>> How to contact MSI <<
http://us.msi.com/service/PreSaleForm/
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1. What is the TPM connector/module exactly used for?
2. What is the jspI1 connector for? It's not listed in the manual.
3. The JFP1 cnonector has 2 pins for POWER LED and the JFP2 connector has 1 pin labeled POWER LED. Should the case power LED be hooked to JFP1? What is the POWER LED on JFP2 for?
Thank you very much.

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JSPI1: http://www.google.com/search?q=jspi1&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
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MSI Big Bang-XPower New Build Compatibility Questons

I am doing my first build, and do not see several components I have selected (some already purchased) for my new system in the MSI compatibility literature for the Motherboard. Can someone please advise if any of the below components will cause issues? I have done much research and believe I am OK, but would like to have confirmation before proceeding. As an FYI, I will be doing video editing with the new system:
1.) Motherboard: MSI Big Bang-XPower LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (purchased)
2.) Video Card: MSI N470GTX Twin Frozr II GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (purchased)
3.) OS Drive: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (purchased)
(I will also have four 1TB drives in raid "10" - 7200 RPM Western Digital SATA 3.0 Gb/s for data storage, working files, etc.) (to be purchased)
4.) CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950 (purchased)
5.) Memory: This one I would like confirmation on but I believe it will work (I like that it is Cas Latency 7 and know I will pay a few more $ for this):
G.SKILL Trident+ Turbulence II 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-12GBTDD
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timing 7-8-7-24 Cas Latency 7
Voltage: 1.65V
Multi-channel Kit: Triple Channel Kit
Timing: 7-8-7-24
Model #: F3-12800CL7T-12GBTDD
Item #: N82E16820231381
6.) OS: Windows 7 Ultimate (purchased)
7.) The other items are fairly straight forward.
Any feedback on the above will be greatly appreciated, especially the memory.

I have two follow-up items from the above (one power supply and one RAM):
1.) I Am between the following 2 power supplies:
- CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($169.99)
- CORSAIR Professional Series AX850 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($194.99)
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2.) I spent another few hours on RAM selection today. This is driving my crazy...
I spent time today with Intel concerning RAM for the Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield - here is a cc of my log (they obviously have only one recommendation):
You are now chatting with 'Allan'
Allan: Hello. Thank you for using the Intel Customer Support chat service. We are glad to be of service. How can I help you today?
sldwaa: I just purchased in i7-950 Bloomfield and am in the process of purchasing the RAM. I have an MSI Big Bang X-Power MOBO and am running Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit. I have read many posts and Intel spec sheets and I understand Intel does not recommend anything other than 1066 / 1.5v VDIMM. Now for my question as I am new to purchasing ram and building PCs. Here are my questions:
1.) I am deciding between 1066 and 1600. The most posts recommend 1600. The obvious alternative is the Intel recommended 1066. I believe if I do not over clock, 1066 will be the ticket. If I buy the 1600, then I can only achieve this by over clocking - correct?
2.) If I buy 1600 and do not over clock, it will perform at 1066 without any negative effects - is this correct? This is assuming XMP is not enabled. I will not be a heavy over clocker, but want the capability just in case.
Allan: the processor supports DDR3-800/1066 at 1.5V
Allan: no other memory is supported... no matter if the board supports 1600 or even 2000mhz
Allan: I remind you that the memory controller is on the processor, this is not integrated on the board
sldwaa: Understood. Follow up question - If I purchase 1066 with the fastest CAS Latency I can find (possibly 7), can I over clock the 1066 (understanding the negative potential effects) or would I still need the 1600 to achieve any over clocking capability?
Allan: I am afraid I cannot answer that... I cannot comment anything about over clocking
Allan: you will need to search this information on Internet
sldwaa: OK - to summarize you only recommend 1066 at 1.5VDIMM. Anything else, I am on my own, including risks of overheating and instability = correct?
Allan: that is exactly correct
Allan: Intel recommends DDR3-800/1066 at 1.5V
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MSI big bang xpower ii memory problems

Hello! I wasn't sure where to post this question, so If it is in a wrong subforum please forgive and transfer it to the correct one.
Story is, I have msi big bang xpower ii motherboard, runnig 3930k, c1 cpu. I have two memory sets, both tested extensively, 1) gskill ripjaws 2133 32gb 4x8 (one matched set), 9/11/10/28 1.65v and 2) gskill ripjaws 1600 16gb 4x4gb 9/9/9/24 1.5v, also one matched set.
I updated bios to 1.2 (i think that's the latest official one).
Problem is, in 2133 mode, i can only post with 1 stick. With set 1) in 1600 mode I can post with 2 sticks (any slots as shown in manual). With set 2) in 1600 mode, I an post with 3 sticks (also any slots as shown in manual). That's it. Any other configuration (for example quad channel or 8 sticks) will not post, I get error 67.
I tried manual mode as well as XMP. It seems in XMP mode i don't even get to error 67, it just keeps rebooting and rebooting, rebooting on error code 19.
Does anyone run this 2133 set at 4x4gb ? If so could you please possibly give me your OC settings? I tweaked vccsa, pll and dram voltage, but no luck.
Thanks in advance.

It won't boot in quad channel even in 1333. Manual says, if you number slots A B C D | E F G H, quad channel is A _ C _ | _ F _ H . It will not post in this configuration. Neither of my two sets (even 2133 running in 1600 or 1333). However, A B C D | _ _ _ _ will post in 1600! I tried this out of curiosity and this is technically an invalid configuration? It's not even mentioned in the manual. It also seems to me the system will never post if I have something in slot G.
I also must add both of my kits are tested, additionally my asus rive can run quad set in 2133 just fine.
I set 1.5v kit at 1.5, then tried 1.520. For 1.65v kit, i tried 1.5, 1.520 and 1.65 and next one I don't remember i think 1.68. I tried vccsa (system agent) 1.15 - 1.30, also, why is PLL so high on this board? I am seeing ~ 1.77 (I did set it at 1.8 later).
Also what are the modes 1-7? Where can I find more information about those?
Should I RMA this board? I can probably get it replaced within a day or two.
I also must note, I have the worst luck ever with lga 2011 boards. It took me 3 tries to get normal rive, and now this. Sigh.

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